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    Clutch and Tranmission Pictures

    I installed the BBG clutch today, the following are pictures of the stock flywheel and the BBG flywheel. The clutch install is actually easier than my Gen 2, that is because the transmission comes out much easier.. There are some tools that make the installation far better, I will put a list together of those tools this week.


    OEM Flywheel
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    BBG Flywheel
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    T6060 Transmission
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    Last edited by Jack B; 02-24-2014 at 12:40 AM.

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    Thank you for documenting everything you're doing with pictures...seriously, it is a huge asset to this community to be able to see stuff like this.

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    Looking forward to seeing the clutch set up, but if you don't mind me asking, have you worn out the stock clutch already?

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    Glad I warned you about the E-12 socket, haha. I'm loving the BBG clutch in mine.

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    Tony have you hit the strip yet with your new clutch?

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    You guys change major parts like I change socks....seriously, that is some talent! Thanks for documenting, and please give us your impressions versus stock.

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    Clutch was fine on str tires, however, it did not like slicks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy 18 View Post
    Looking forward to seeing the clutch set up, but if you don't mind me asking, have you worn eiout the stock clutch already?

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    Ha Ha, yes I guess your Avatar says it all

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    Here are a couple more pictures of the BBG clutch. As I stated previously, the factory clutch will probably last forever if not raced or used with sticky rears. The oem clutch actually has a good feel and shifts very nice, it just does not like sticky rear tires. The difference between the factory clutch and the BBG clutch/flywheel is day and night from a quality stand point. The design of the BBG set-up is dramatically different than the original and that is in a good way.

    BBG Ceramic Disk.JPG


    BBG Clutch Plate.JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    I installed the BBG clutch today, the following are pictures of the stock flywheel and the BBG flywheel. The clutch install is actually easier than my Gen 2, that is because the transmission comes out much easier.. There are some tools that make the installation far better, I will put a list together of those tools this week.


    OEM Flywheel
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    DSC01569.jpg


    BBG Flywheel
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    DSC01570.jpg


    T6060 Transmission
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    DSC01574.JPG
    What tools did you use to Remove Clutch?

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    Before I start, the BBG clutch started to slip worse than the oem clutch. I pulled it and replaced it with a McLeod clutch.

    1. The only special tools are a t6060 dummy input shaft for alignment and a E12 socket. Do not use the plastic alignment tool, because you are working with a dual disk clutch, the alignment is extremely important, if it is not perfect, you will not get the input shaft to start in the second disk or pilot bearing.

    2. When you pull the oem clutch, use a thread chaser to clean the clutch bolt holes, the factory thread lock will make it hard to reassemble if you do not clean the threads.

    3. You will need a jack plate on the lift to adjust/hold the rear of the engine. Put a 6" piece of a 2 X 4 on the back of the oil pan, that is your jack point.

    4. When you torque the clutch plate down, use a feeler gauge to make sure the plate ears are flush on the flywheel.

    5. The only other trick is to use a 3' or 4' extension with a wobbler on the end to facilitate the removal of the trans bolts.

    6. Another little trick, I made a two 4" threaded studs that thread into the bell housing, they are used to guide the trans into the clutch spline.
    Last edited by Jack B; 02-13-2017 at 12:13 AM.

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    Where did you get your (Non Plastic) dummy input shaft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2008 View Post
    Where did you get your (Non Plastic) dummy input shaft?
    Woodhouse

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    Thanks I really appreciate it so hard to find Viper info

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    Going with McLeod also by the way to many bad reviews on everybody else. I will stick to what I know loved it in my C6 Grand Sport.

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    bbg stuff is work of art, almost to pretty to install!..---- by the way those bbg clutchs come with shims don't they? did you shim it properly? last one I installed was in a acrx car and had to be measured and shimmed at pressure plate
    Last edited by bluesrt; 02-13-2017 at 04:05 PM.

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    I have a Mcleod clutch that I took out of my car because I put my car on a serious diet and was looking for anything I could do to lose weight. The Mcleod is a very smooth clutch and Andy has more than proven that it is a very good clutch for the drag strip. If anyone is wanting a good deal on a slightly used one, let me know. It only has 1500 miles on it. street use only. Sorry if this is not the correct place to be posting this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jprince View Post
    I have a Mcleod clutch that I took out of my car because I put my car on a serious diet and was looking for anything I could do to lose weight. The Mcleod is a very smooth clutch and Andy has more than proven that it is a very good clutch for the drag strip. If anyone is wanting a good deal on a slightly used one, let me know. It only has 1500 miles on it. street use only. Sorry if this is not the correct place to be posting this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesrt View Post
    bbg stuff is work of art, almost to pretty to install!..---- by the way those bbg clutchs come with shims don't they? did you shim it properly? last one I installed was in a acrx car and had to be measured and shimmed at pressure plate
    It was assembled, the first permutation would not release. I sent it back, Ram changed the shims, it then slipped badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry504 View Post
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    On a G4 the alignment tool didnt need to be used, its a modular clutch and can just be bolted directly to the flywheel. I tested after with the line up tool and it was fine, but it specifically says in the instructions not to dissasemble and try and line it up. Multiple extensions, especially a wobble extension or universal makes it much easier. not sure on the gen v but getting the bellhousing in/out of the g4 was the hardest part out of all of it.

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    Rotate the the bell housing about 90 degrees and it falls out. I have had a clutch with the trapped disks that are supposed to be lined up and they are not. It is always best to use the tool to verify it is in alignment.

    I do no know that it matters, but. I always open the hood and loosen the intake tubes, just to make sure there is no stress on the hood or air box when the engine drops in the rear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redx View Post
    On a G4 the alignment tool didnt need to be used, its a modular clutch and can just be bolted directly to the flywheel. I tested after with the line up tool and it was fine, but it specifically says in the instructions not to dissasemble and try and line it up. Multiple extensions, especially a wobble extension or universal makes it much easier. not sure on the gen v but getting the bellhousing in/out of the g4 was the hardest part out of all of it.
    Last edited by Jack B; 02-13-2017 at 11:04 PM.

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    I fabricated a support for the rear of the engine that hooks over the tops of the frame rails. The rear of the oil pan rests on it. Crude but works well and allows me to raise and lower the car on the lift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    Rotate the the bell housing about 90 degrees and it falls out. I have had a clutch with the trapped disks that are supposed to be lined up and they are not. It is always best to use the tool to verify it is in alignment.

    I do no know that it matters, but. I always open the hood and loosen the intake tubes, just to make sure there is no stress on the hood or air box when the engine drops in the rear.
    Btw thanks jack b, your one of the reasons I went with the McLeod, great clutch and handles a beating!


 

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