Gen V easy to work on In this case not so much

[Special Ed]

I have worked on many parts of my '15 T/A 2. No real surprises till today.
I purchased a seat lowering kit from a member on here, honest straight forward guy. He shipped me the kit (Snake Oyl) with all the parts. I pull the installation instructions off the manufactures website. I pull the seat from the car, removing the front bolts with my electric impact, slide the seat forward (remember this part) and loosen the nuts holding the rear mounts and the submarine belt mounting bar. I remove that oem tracks and install the lowering kit. At this point I have 35 to 40 minutes in the project.

I put the seat back in the car start the two front bolts the go the the rear. It is here that I discover that there is less than ZERO space to do almost any thing. It takes me about 20 minutes to get the sub bar in place and get the belts through the seat. To get the nut in place and tightened down it requires taping the nut to the socket attached to wobble adapter and a 3/8" extension and the patience of Mother Theresa, because you can no longer move the seat forward. You are do all this by feel zero room and contorted arm positions. At one point I called Snake Oyl to find out if I was correct on the install. When I told the rep that I had a sub bar he said "Oh they a difficult". I thought no sh*t. Three hours after I put the seat back in the car, I had the last two nuts installed and torqued.

If you are putting a seat lowering kit in your Gen V and have a six point harness I highly recommend have someone else do it and enjoy your day.

[SirHiss]

Sorry to hear about the tough install my friend. I had the fellas at viper exchange handle that haha. Hopefully your riding much more comfortably now at least.

[darbgnik]

I couldn't finish the seat bracket kit, even without the sub bar, myself. Had to enlist a friend with skinny forearms. Lol.

There's not much room to work there, for sure.

[Special Ed]

I couldn't finish the seat bracket kit, even without the sub bar, myself. Had to enlist a friend with skinny forearms. Lol.

There's not much room to work there, for sure.

I am sure it would be at least ten time easier without the sub bar or someone with hands that are smaller then my fat mitts with large diameter digits.

[sharmut]

After installing 2 harnesses, cannot imagine how difficult it would have been if the seat could not move forward. Perhaps tissue or masking-tape wedged between the nut and socket would hold long enough to start the thread. Is it possible to reach the rear nuts from the trunk with long socket extensions?

A note on the sub-belt and sub-bar. Discovered on the ACR I was able to route the sub-belt strap under the seat and secure it to a round bar near the front of seat, avoiding the need for the sub-bar. This retained full movement for the seat, otherwise the sub-bar being fixed to the floor would limit the seat's range of movement. To secure the lap-belts, eye-bolts were used in factory seat belt bolt locations.

[Special Ed]

I did use masking tape to hold the nut in the socket. I had the seat back tilted as far forward as possible. Used a shallow socket (deep socket won't work) with a wobble and 12" extension to start the nut. This is difficult as you are using feel to accomplish this because there is no line of sight. After the nut was started another wobble and an additional 12" extension and electric impact completed the job. My lap belts attach to the eye bolts welded to the sub bar.
It wasn't fun but it is done.

[ViperTony]

I did use masking tape to hold the nut in the socket. I had the seat back tilted as far forward as possible. Used a shallow socket (deep socket won't work) with a wobble and 12" extension to start the nut. This is difficult as you are using feel to accomplish this because there is no line of sight. After the nut was started another wobble and an additional 12" extension and electric impact completed the job. My lap belts attach to the eye bolts welded to the sub bar.
It wasn't fun but it is done.

I did something similar....agreed not fun but its done.

[darrahc]

Exactly same experience! It started out easy enough until I had to get to the rear bolts. I have long skinny arms and was doing all kinds of contortions to get the bolt on there. At one point I had to walk away and went back to it the next day. I finally had to remove the horizontal bar on the back of the seat to get any kind of clearance.

Patience is definitely key!

[Special Ed]

Exactly same experience! It started out easy enough until I had to get to the rear bolts. I have long skinny arms and was doing all kinds of contortions to get the bolt on there. At one point I had to walk away and went back to it the next day. I finally had to remove the horizontal bar on the back of the seat to get any kind of clearance.

Patience is definitely key!

I thought about removing that on the back of the seat. That was one of the reasons that I called Snake Oyl, I figured it had to be removed. They told it it needed to stay as it was an important structural part of the seat. It’s still in place.

[ViperPete]

I was wondering about that install. There is hardly any room with the stock seat. Glad you got through it though.

[Matt Dillon]

Thank You for Sharing Ed, i'm a tad under 6' so i'll probably just leave mine alone!