Help and advice needed please

[BustedViper]

I might purchase a 2001 RT10. Salvage title. I have seen pics of the damage and the body work has already been completed. It appears to just need a right (passenger side) rocker molding and paint. I manage a few body shops so I am not concerned about this. My only question is, what do you think it’s worth once completed? 27k Miles, 6 speed manual, black interior in great shape and mechanically sound.

Thanks in advance for any/all help!

[99RT10]

I have a rocker when you need it. But to your point, most fixed correctly are getting about 20-25% than a clean title car.

[dave6666]

There is no such thing as a 2001 SRT10. You might want to start there..................

[BustedViper]

There is no such thing as a 2001 SRT10. You might want to start there..................

corrected it, my apologies.

[BustedViper]

I have a rocker when you need it. But to your point, most fixed correctly are getting about 20-25% than a clean title car.

Thanks for the reply. Ultimately I can get it for $13k and my shop will do the painting...so would you go for it?

[99RT10]

Absolutely

[BustedViper]

Absolutely

How much would you sell the rocker molds me for?

[SilverACR]

Thanks for the reply. Ultimately I can get it for $13k and my shop will do the painting...so would you go for it?

I kind of agree with 99rt10... 13k plus your labor, parts, paint costs, holding fees, then look at comparable perfect car sales times .2 to .5 max since your story is going to be a negative. Are you comfortable with that? I’m guessing you’d be in around 20ish given you manage a body shop and the car probably goes in the mid to upper 20s. Not going to make you a millionaire, but probably turns an OK profit. I’d do it as long as I was super confident it didn’t have super expensive mechanical issues that could be undisclosed. It’s a G2 so procuring affordable mechanical parts could add to your hold time and costs.

Have fun

[BustedViper]

I kind of agree with 99rt10... 13k plus your labor, parts, paint costs, holding fees, then look at comparable perfect car sales times .2 to .5 max since your story is going to be a negative. Are you comfortable with that? I’m guessing you’d be in around 20ish given you manage a body shop and the car probably goes in the mid to upper 20s. Not going to make you a millionaire, but probably turns an OK profit. I’d do it as long as I was super confident it didn’t have super expensive mechanical issues that could be undisclosed. It’s a G2 so procuring affordable mechanical parts could add to your hold time and costs.

Have fun

Thanks for the reply! We are working on it. I might end up finishing it and then selling it for him and making a little. We will see!

I would need that rocker molding 99RT10!

[Mbccenter]

You could sell to me as is

[BustedViper]

You could sell to me as is

If the owner and I can’t work something out I will send you his contact info.

[BrianACR]

As long as it's only cosmetic damage and nothing done to the frame, I'd say go for it.

[RedTanRT/10]

I might purchase a 2001 RT10. Salvage title. I have seen pics of the damage and the body work has already been completed. It appears to just need a right (passenger side) rocker molding and paint. I manage a few body shops so I am not concerned about this. My only question is, what do you think it’s worth once completed? 27k Miles, 6 speed manual, black interior in great shape and mechanically sound.

Thanks in advance for any/all help!

I'll bet that viper looks a lot worse in person. In looking at the pictures I'm not sure the body work is that good. It didn't total due to what I see in this picture, it had to have frame damage. Chunk out of that RF wheel, guessing that's the impact area. did he peel the white wrap off in this picture? Finished its a low $20's car and will take some time to sell. Good luck!


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[BustedViper]

I'll bet that viper looks a lot worse in person. In looking at the pictures I'm not sure the body work is that good. It didn't total due to what I see in this picture, it had to have frame damage. Chunk out of that RF wheel, guessing that's the impact area. did he peel the white wrap off in this picture? Finished its a low $20's car and will take some time to sell. Good luck!

Salvage viper.jpg

So he sent me the VIN and here is the original eBay listing: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F183194912869

I manage multiple body shops so I can take care of poor quality repairs if any were done.

[RedTanRT/10]

Google the vin and see what it looked like at auction. You'll see the RR was tweaked. It a rare viper that totals without frame damage. Disclosed as undercarriage so you know there's was/is an issue with the frame

[BustedViper]

Google the vin and see what it looked like at auction. You'll see the RR was tweaked. It a rare viper that totals without frame damage. Disclosed as undercarriage so you know there's was/is an issue with the frame

What does RR mean? Never heard that before. Just because it was listed as undercarriage, doesn’t mean frame. I would guess the insurance company wrote to replace the right fender, right front wheel, right rocker molding, right quarter panel, etc. if the parts and the salvage value added up to more than it’s worth, they will total it. Some states have percentages of the value they have to reach in order to total a car, other’s it’s strictly economical to do so.

[SilverACR]

I assume he means Right Rear (RR)

[99RT10]

RR=Right rear

[SilverACR]

RR=Right rear

Nice timing LOl

[BustedViper]

Nice timing LOl

Thanks, I didn’t want to assume since I am new to the Viper I told. I thought so. With the way the quarter was cracked, I assume the body panel itself was jolted pretty good. I wouldn’t assume frame damage since these cars are t made of sheet metal like others.

[SilverACR]

Viper owners are critical to frame damage because it’s as close to a race car as you can get. A little frame tweak is probably fine on a pickup truck, but makes a huge difference when tracking/ racing. A lot of people still track the early generations in club events and track days. People don’t want to worry about their car or others while ripping corners in excess of 100mph. I can’t speak of the car your working on, but the frame can be bent if a wheel smacked something real hard.

Not saying thats your case, but you’ll likely feild that question here and at sale. It wouldn’t hurt to double check it with a reputable viper tech if you have one close.

[lmn]

So he sent me the VIN and here is the original eBay listing: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F183194912869

I manage multiple body shops so I can take care of poor quality repairs if any were done.

The viper pictured in the "original eBay listing" and the car pictured above cannot possibly be the same vehicle, unless I am misunderstanding your post.

[SilverACR]

For comparison I was just made aware of a 2001 Yellow RT for sale with 22000 miles no stories and clean title asking $24,000.

Personally I don't have any problem with salvaged title Vipers I even own one. But that's not always the case with the people that really buy these cars.

To make things worse with this car is it's pretty much on the bottom of the totem poll for desirability. Or maybe I should say RT's are on the low end of the market and this is also true for any Viper roadster.

I'm not trying to step on any toes with that statement. But all you have to do is look at the pricing out there is all.

I don’t think any toes are stepped on bud. Gen2 coups are the desired cars from these years as that was the first years for the coups. And even the coups are more collectible from the early years unless they have the ACR or GTSR designations.

[RedTanRT/10]

What does RR mean? Never heard that before. Just because it was listed as undercarriage, doesn’t mean frame. I would guess the insurance company wrote to replace the right fender, right front wheel, right rocker molding, right quarter panel, etc. if the parts and the salvage value added up to more than it’s worth, they will total it. Some states have percentages of the value they have to reach in order to total a car, other’s it’s strictly economical to do so.

Just trying to help you, I've been around vipers for 20 years. Here's the damage disclosure from the El Paso auction;

Primary Damage SUSPENSION
Secondary Damage RIGHT SIDE
Repair Cost $ 38,555 USD

Here's some pics from the sale, look at the Right Rear Suspension, I'll bet the frame is tweaked, fixable, but frame damage. Good luck on your purchase and repair.

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[Fatboy 18]

That could be a broken rear Knuckle or bent wishbone suspension arm?

You would need to get the car up in the Air and check all frame measurements If "Busted" Owns multiple bodyshops then this should not be a problem. All measurements are in the workshop manuals.