Who crashed their TA

[ViperDC]

https://www.copart.com/lot/29212228

Looks fixable but that sucks

[texasram]

Ignorant thread.

[ViperDC]

Ignorant thread.

haha relax Sally

[Jack B]

https://www.copart.com/lot/29212228

Looks fixable but that sucks

It would be interesting to generate a list of parts/cost to repair the car.

[ViperDC]

It would be interesting to generate a list of parts/cost to repair the car.

The passenger side from hood back looks fine. Just body work alone looks like hood, front bumper, driver headlight, drivers rocker panel, driver rear fender, rear bumper, rear applique, driver tail light. Can't tell if the driver's door looks OK. Then you've got wheels, and various suspension pieces, front end bits etc. Definitely wouldn't be cheap but doesnt look like all that hard of a hit. Someone will fix it.

[Jack B]

The passenger side from hood back looks fine. Just body work alone looks like hood, front bumper, driver headlight, drivers rocker panel, driver rear fender, rear bumper, rear applique, driver tail light. Can't tell if the driver's door looks OK. Then you've got wheels, and various suspension pieces, front end bits etc. Definitely wouldn't be cheap but doesnt look like all that hard of a hit. Someone will fix it.

the site also noted under carriage damage

radiator
oil cooler?
airbox
fr axle
rotor?
air bags
fender well liner

[RedTanRT/10]

Jack, late model Viper’s rarely total without frame damage

[Jack B]

Jack, late model Viper’s rarely total without frame damage

Look at the the direction of the of the wheels including the left rear. basically all the body panels have damage. that car is getting close.

[RedTanRT/10]

It would be interesting to generate a list of parts/cost to repair the car.

don't have the parts list but here is the estimate;

Est. Retail Value: $88,511 USD
Est Repair Cost: $67,391 USD
Ownership Doc Type: NC SALVAGE CERTIFICATE OF TITLE
Odometer: 0 Not Actual
Primary Damage: FRONT END
Secondary Damage: UNDERCARRIAGE

It's #74 and was last sold by Tomball with 6,100 miles.

[Hawk]

That totally sucks! It is #74, those pictures will give me nightmares!
I hope someone puts her back together. It would make an awesome track car

[Bruce]

don't have the parts list but here is the estimate;

Est. Retail Value: $88,511 USD
Est Repair Cost: $67,391 USD
Ownership Doc Type: NC SALVAGE CERTIFICATE OF TITLE
Odometer: 0 Not Actual
Primary Damage: FRONT END
Secondary Damage: UNDERCARRIAGE

It's #74 and was last sold by Tomball with 6,100 miles.

Since I haven't been driving my TA much, I put it on Non Op status w/ the DMV and stopped the insurance, maybe I should just sell that #63 and get and use this as a track car, as I'll have money leftover to buy a tow vehicle and trailer.

[F2V]

It would be interesting to generate a list of parts/cost to repair the car.

Great for salvage parts...if you are into them. The $15k bid shown is a ridiculous STEAL.
Those rocker panels over exhaust, cost $6500 each from body shop repair...or at least they did several years ago on my 2009 Vert. Not to mention, replacement body parts for the discontinued G5, are going to be astronomical, if they aren't already!!

[Martin]

I'm sure someone will put it back together. The estimated repair cost is probably $30k higher than the "real" repair cost - if someone buys it who specializes in rebuilding these cars, they can do it a lot cheaper than what the local dealer estimated. It'll always have that salvage title - but for a track car, it'll do the job. My guess is that, since both airbags popped and that requires a new dash, the top sales price on it is going to be in the area of $20k. If it costs $35k to fix it, that's a pretty reasonable price to pay for a dedicated track car. This is all assuming that the frame isn't bent, though. The photos don't seem to indicate that it's bent, but it could very well be a bit out of spec if the driver's side front got hit hard enough.

[Stealth78]

Looking at the X-brace and also the rear drivers side wheel I'm not so sure there isn't structural damage......

[ViperDC]

My guess is that, since both airbags popped and that requires a new dash, the top sales price on it is going to be in the area of $20k.

I bet it pulls more than that. The prices people pay for some of these wrecked cars amazes me. I'd like for someone to explain how it really works buying something from Copart. I was looking at their site when all those Houston flood cars were coming thru. #1 you never really know when the thing is going for sale and #2 the auctions I watched the prices seemed outlandish for cars that needed a LOT of R&R. Anyone have experience with rebuilders or working with Copart/IAAI? I'm genuinely curious about purchasing process, fees etc

[swexlin]

Is the owner here on the forums? Perhaps he or she can chime in. Most importantly, hope the occupant(s) are OK.

[dirtyboot]

Yes, it was mine.

Rear knuckle broke, frame warped, passenger door was opened tearing through the hood, most fluids dumped either from hoses coming off or damaged holding units. I didn't look too closely but believe the xbrace is also damaged. At least 2 wheels rashed, and they've been less than gentle moving it around on a forklift so who knows what further damage they've done. Positive note is it has Belanger cats/exhaust that had only seen maybe 500mi. and before the wreck it wasn't leaking any oil from the motor.

[ViperDC]

Yes, it was mine.

Rear knuckle broke, frame warped, passenger door was opened tearing through the hood, most fluids dumped either from hoses coming off or damaged holding units. I didn't look too closely but believe the xbrace is also damaged. At least 2 wheels rashed, and they've been less than gentle moving it around on a forklift so who knows what further damage they've done. Positive note is it has Belanger cats/exhaust that had only seen maybe 500mi. and before the wreck it wasn't leaking any oil from the motor.

That sucks man. At least you're OK. What happened? Is the frame bent badly?

X brace looks fine to me in the pics but it's sort of hard to tell

[dirtyboot]

That sucks man. At least you're OK. What happened? Is the frame bent badly?

X brace looks fine to me in the pics but it's sort of hard to tell

Caught front-end lift from a bump for a storm grate that put me into a concrete barrier on the highway, the divot from the next grate broke the rear wheel and spun out into traffic, bounced off a SUV and into the woods. No bodily damage, just vehicular.

[Stealth78]

Yes, it was mine.

Rear knuckle broke, frame warped, passenger door was opened tearing through the hood, most fluids dumped either from hoses coming off or damaged holding units. I didn't look too closely but believe the xbrace is also damaged. At least 2 wheels rashed, and they've been less than gentle moving it around on a forklift so who knows what further damage they've done. Positive note is it has Belanger cats/exhaust that had only seen maybe 500mi. and before the wreck it wasn't leaking any oil from the motor.

Glad you're okay man!

[SlateEd]

Yes, it was mine.

Rear knuckle broke, frame warped, passenger door was opened tearing through the hood, most fluids dumped either from hoses coming off or damaged holding units. I didn't look too closely but believe the xbrace is also damaged. At least 2 wheels rashed, and they've been less than gentle moving it around on a forklift so who knows what further damage they've done. Positive note is it has Belanger cats/exhaust that had only seen maybe 500mi. and before the wreck it wasn't leaking any oil from the motor.

Glad to hear you're okay, that's the most important thing! Sorry to see the car torn up, and good luck if you decide to grab another one!

[Martin]

It's nowhere near as bad as my ACR was when I crashed - and that car is out and about today. I don't know the details of what it cost to get it back on the road, but when looking at it post-crash, you'd never imagine it could have been put back together.

The front member on the X-Brace looks like it flexed enough to de-laminate the carbon fiber. You can see it in the lighter color in the area right above where it bolts down. So, that part is toast...

Might want to think about doing a buy-back and then sell to one of the re-builders. The insurance company will generally give you a buy-back price that's lower than what someone will pay at auction, and if you call someone like JonB, you can get a line on someone that will buy it from you and then re-build. Generally, you'll get a few thousand extra out of the deal. I went that route, but I took so long negotiating with the insurance company that my buy-back was equal to what I sold it for (insurance company charged me for storage and transportation back to my house, and then the buy-back cut into the tax payout that they owed me). Lesson learned - move faster.

[dirtyboot]

Might want to think about doing a buy-back and then sell to one of the re-builders. The insurance company will generally give you a buy-back price that's lower than what someone will pay at auction, and if you call someone like JonB, you can get a line on someone that will buy it from you and then re-build. Generally, you'll get a few thousand extra out of the deal. I went that route, but I took so long negotiating with the insurance company that my buy-back was equal to what I sold it for (insurance company charged me for storage and transportation back to my house, and then the buy-back cut into the tax payout that they owed me). Lesson learned - move faster.

Thought about it and spoke with Tom Sessions, but couldn't get them to even give me a full damage report, and their adjuster didn't even know the rear wheel was broke - he asked me[seriously] if it had 4-wheel steering.. the cost of the buyback was too high for it to be a reasonable investment for me to evaluate and fix

Edit: To clarify, "them" is the insurance adjuster & Co., not Sessions.

[Martin]

Thought about it and spoke with Tom Sessions, but couldn't get them to even give me a full damage report, and their adjuster didn't even know the rear wheel was broke - he asked me[seriously] if it had 4-wheel steering.. the cost of the buyback was too high for it to be a reasonable investment for me to evaluate and fix

Edit: To clarify, "them" is the insurance adjuster & Co., not Sessions.

Not unusual with insurance companies... After I crashed mine, I had it towed over to a dealership that I trusted and had them come up with the repair estimate. I then gave that to the insurance company. In the meantime, though, the insurance company claimed that someone saw the car and called them with an offer to buy. So, that was what the insurance company said was the buy-back price. I asked them to get it in writing from the potential buyer that, if I declined to buy back, they were contractually obligated to buy it for what they "offered", and give me a copy of that with the names redacted so that I knew it was a real offer. They backed off of that one, and then went with "market value minus costs of repair" calculation. Since the costs of repair were so high, the buy-back was reasonable and I locked that in. That said, they ended up hosing me over in the end - they dragged their feet so many times, changed my point of contact so many times, and did their own market research on what the car was worth to calculate the total pay-out (they must have found the most moth-eaten abused ACRs out there). I refuted it, and gave them comparable examples in my area. We finally reached an agreement, but by then they told me that they were charging me for storage and transportation - and since I had already reached an agreement to sell it, I was stuck just doing a pass-through and it didn't do me any good at all.

Oh well, it's just a car and in your case, I'm sure you can find a good replacement and break even on things. It sucks to crash, but it's just a car and fortunately neither of you were injured, and no other injuries resulted from the accident.

[kriskyk]

F@#k that, get an agreed value policy..