Anyone Have Input on Plug Wires

[96TTtrqmnstr]

Here is my Gen V Plug Wire Set!
Attachment 37312
Thanks to Mr. Shelby for the Wires!

What brand wire insulators do you have in this picture (silver in color) and did they slide over the metal insulator at the base of the wire?
thank you,

[gpbtt]

I got them off EBay and yes, they did slide right over. I ordered for an old Hemi

[Qualitywires.com]

Hi Jack, I don't think I received a message from you? How did you send? If you sent here, I haven't gotten any notifications of messages that I have seen. I apologize! Feel free if you need to reach out to me at www.qualitywires.com

After Alex posted about his problems with the oem plug wires I did a little research.

1. The actual oem wire assembly is a total of 11".

2. The coil side is a 135 degree boot and the plug side is a straight boot.

3. The actual wire is approximately 9".

4. I do not know whether a resistor is placed in the plug boot or whether they use a resistor wire. The total resistance of the wire assembly in 2,300 ohms. I did a google to see if that was the norm, it seems too high for those manufacturers that actually use a resistor approach to limiting the RF coupling issue.

5. The high end wires like the Moroso Ultra 40 Race product do not totally use the resistor approach, their wire is 40 ohms/ft, they use a canceling/shielding approach to control the RF interference.

6. Moroso part #75535 is an eight piece set and it looks like it would work, I have to get a clarification on the exact measurement. The other problem, we would have to buy two sets for our cars and they are $115/set.

7. I tried the AB Quality Wire route, but, no response on my order after three weeks. The other problem is, there is no description or spec on the web site.

Does anyone have any additional input on another source or something that is unique to the oem wires?? Lastly, has anyone else had a wire issue similar to Alex's misfire problem.

[Qualitywires.com]

Hi Fatboy,

If you are indeed having issues with the wires, they have a limited life time warranty and I don't believe I received a message from you on it? Let me know how I can help. Many thanks!

We have two Gen II Vipers here in the UK, both have AB wires and both cars are having ignition misfire issues! I can't say 100% its the wires but its strange as there was not an issue prior to having them fitted on one car.

I also know some other USA Owners have had issues.

[Qualitywires.com]

Hi, I don't think I received a message or call? How did you contact? Let me know if you need anything. I can be reached at www.qulaitywires.com or 502-419-0133 directly. I apologize for not seeing the message.

Jack: Try Jon B on the AB Quality wires. Like you, I recently tried to purchase a set straight from Adam but got no response as well. I then found that Jon B stocked these wires. I called him and he shipped them right out to me.

[Qualitywires.com]

The wire set has a limited lifetime warranty and never got any calls or messages about issues from Canada. If you are in contact with them let them know the wires are backed up and I would be more than happy to look into their issues if they are causing any issues. We sell thousands of sets and each one is handmade and tested before they go out. Let me know how I can help them but please have them contact me. www.qualitywires.com or 502-419-0133 direct. Looking forward to hearing from them.

I have talked to 2 members in Ontario were there ab wires had issues, creating miss fire .
I've had good luck with moroso , just not sure about noise suppression on modern car radio's ?

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Good Thread Jack...

Wires degrade with age-heat-miles as do all other under-hood soft components. Our torquey V-10s with heavy flywheels DISGUISE minor ignition faults. Many owners attribute any rough-idle situations to cam or OE idle program. If you have a 4 cyl or 6-cyl turbo, you would NOTICE ! Not so with 8+L V-10. Over time, we become blind to minor accel losses unless being timed at the strip.

Many owners only discover they were LOSING HP after they routinely replace plugs and wires! Its a real tune-up surprise.

Hint: Dont asphyxiate yourself, but:

This works best on a warmed motor - If you can start your hood-open Viper in a bat-cave totally-dark-garage setting, and your eyes have acclimated, you can even SEE 'spiderweb' blue-ish arcing of degraded wires at plug or coil ends. Extra-fine-filament webs sparking like an old-time-sci-fi movie. YOU NEED WIRES.

There are also hand-held wire testers to check the same thing, and wont make your garage stinky.

Anecdote: Back in 1999 we had a before-after dyno contest at a midwest club. Guys did mods after a baseline dyno. One guy was SOO EXCITED because the only mod he did was Belanger Headers /Cats/Catback/KNs, and he gained +68HP! The very most you would predict or expect on a 1998 was +50 HP

But as recommended, he had also replaced OE wires and plugs with header install. This undoubtedly accounted for the missing / recovered HP simply due to ignition losses. There are NUMEROUS surprise anecdotes of brisk, crisp, smoother accel simply due to new OE plugs, and wires. [wire brand no matter...just NEW]

15-20K miles or 5-7+ years are the normal life of OE wires. Less if tracked frequently or with headers.

[labtec]

What JonB said. Just replaced mine after my 04 started missing very noticeably when stepping on the loud pedal. Runs properly now...like a scalded cat.

[QUOTE=JonB ~ PartsRack;387526]Good Thread Jack...

Wires degrade with age-heat-miles as do all other under-hood soft components......

[13COBRA]

Just did mine the other day...had them gapped wrong...fixed the gap, now the thing runs like a new car.

[SSGNRDZ_28]

I have ordered a few items from DSE, excellent fit and finish. Unfortunately Doug is out of wires right now, are the morosso wire avail anywhere else currently.

I have them back in stock now.

Thanks
Doug

[ViperGeorge]

I have been under the impression that spark plugs in today's cars will last 100,000 miles or so. If this is incorrect, how often should plugs be changed? With the exception of a supercharged Gen 3 I used to own I have never changed plugs in a Viper. The only reason I changed them in the supercharged Gen 3 was to move to a cooler heat range on Dan Cragin's recommendation.

[13COBRA]

I have been under the impression that spark plugs in today's cars will last 100,000 miles or so. If this is incorrect, how often should plugs be changed? With the exception of a supercharged Gen 3 I used to own I have never changed plugs in a Viper. The only reason I changed them in the supercharged Gen 3 was to move to a cooler heat range on Dan Cragin's recommendation.

I think the plug wires will have more of an impact than the plugs themselves...but I wanted to put cooler plugs in as my car spends 90% of it's life on the track.

[ViperGeorge]

I think the plug wires will have more of an impact than the plugs themselves...but I wanted to put cooler plugs in as my car spends 90% of it's life on the track.

Yes, I've changed the wires on my ACR because I track it. I used DSE wires. Still curious though as to what people's thoughts are on plug change intervals.

[13COBRA]

Yes, I've changed the wires on my ACR because I track it. I used DSE wires. Still curious though as to what people's thoughts are on plug change intervals.

Best thing you can do is just pull the plugs and check them out.

Mine were original, so 10 years old with 10k miles on them. It still fired fine, didn't miss, but with the cooler plugs (gapped correctly) it actually runs smoother throughout the powerband.

[SRT_BluByU]

Anyone know the service manual recommended maintenance interval for the wires?

[Old School]

I have been under the impression that spark plugs in today's cars will last 100,000 miles or so. If this is incorrect, how often should plugs be changed? With the exception of a supercharged Gen 3 I used to own I have never changed plugs in a Viper. The only reason I changed them in the supercharged Gen 3 was to move to a cooler heat range on Dan Cragin's recommendation.

The reason todays cars go 100k+ miles on plugs is because they're either platinum or iridium. If you run copper plugs the gap widens quicker.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Anyone know the service manual recommended maintenance interval for the wires?

Driving Style matters.
Miles Matter.
Mods Matter.
Age Matters.
Climate /Storage probably matters.
What the "Book Says" matters less. I pulled a G2 service manual: it does not say! It merely mentions to 'check the condition' of cables and boots and terminal caps.

[Charged01ACR]

I need some new plug wires! I've been getting a random cylinder misfire code lately (P0300) Car runs great everywhere but 1600-2k rpms as there is a slight hesitation. Just put in some new Champion RC12ECC plugs. Stock besides headers, high flow cats and Corsa exhaust. Currently running some MSD wires. Don't know how old they are as the previous owner had them installed

[Whitemamba]

I know that from years of changing plugs on my car that I have always heard a hotter plug makes your car run better. Copper has always been better for this but the offset is that you have to change them out more often. I have always had good luck with NGK and when it comes to O2 sensors, Nippon Denso makes about the best. I have always used MSD for my wires. We all have our favorites when it comes to plugs, wires, and O2 sensors just like oil brands.

I have always lived by the rule that a lower resistance means more spark to the plug and better combustion. As someone stated earlier, get in a darkened environment and open your hood and look for sparks. If you see the sparks or spiderweb looking flashes then you are seeing plug wire leakage so to speak.

[Whitey]

I'm using Magnecor R-100 10mm Racing wires.

Don't forget insulation/thermal socks. Cheap insurance against burn/heat degradation.

https://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/main.htm

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

......... As someone stated earlier, get in a darkened environment and open your hood and look for sparks. If you see the sparks or spiderweb looking flashes then you are seeing plug wire leakage.....

JonB
Circa 1996