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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Savage View Post
    Here's the center during production (pic from Forgeline):
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    A mounted rear (also pic from Forgeline):
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    And another mounted shot. Stock ride height, ACR-E diffuser. (pic taken by me).
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    In theory, a 305/25-20 is 26mm taller overall than a stock 295/30-18 and a 345/25-20 is 15mm shorter than a stock 355/30-19, but I've not measured actual height differences. The only set of Corsas I have lying around are pretty worn down while the Nittos are new. I took an educated guess at the tire size and either I know what I'm doing, or I lucked out.

    There's no rubbing in the front at full lock, and a new set of OEM TPMS sensors fit the wheels just fine, and relearned themselves to the car after ten minutes of driving. No problems at all, and the pressures read correctly.

    To note, the TPMS sensors clamp onto the carbon barrel, not the center section (duh), and the barrels are "universal", so no special work needed done to accommodate the sensor. Just to cover you though, make sure to specify that when ordering.

    As to answer 13Cobra's comment on the absurdity of spending this kind of money on something that you can't track.... what's more absurd:

    1) Spending six figures on a car that will never see the street and never not be wearing Hoosiers and get a new set of brake pads with each oil change,
    2) Spending six figures on a 9.0-liter heads & cam ACR-E that sits in the garage that you drive one time a year, or
    3) Spending six figures on a car that has been driven 37,000 miles in the rain, snow, and on dirt, all over the country, into Canada, and on the racetrack, and then deciding to spend five more figures to buy something awesome that will work perfectly in 99.98% of the environments the car will see?
    If you can afford them then no one should tell you not to get them. It is your money spend it how you want. They are more than I would spend on them just because I'd be worried about breaking them on a pothole but that's just me. They look awesome.

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    Man I wish I could get these in 18"

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    For those commented about these wheels for track use, consider that track wheels have a hard life. I've already bent two (didn't hit anything other than normal curbing, so not sure why) and most of my wheels have various nicks and chips from...whatever hits them on-track, and very regular tire changes.
    S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorman View Post
    For those commented about these wheels for track use, consider that track wheels have a hard life. I've already bent two (didn't hit anything other than normal curbing, so not sure why) and most of my wheels have various nicks and chips from...whatever hits them on-track, and very regular tire changes.
    S.
    My whole reasoning behind my comment was, what does the weight cutting help on the street? Someone MIGHT be able to pull 70-75% of the vehicle's true performance on a public street (ill-advised), and even at 85% an additional, or lack of, 25-30lbs is not going to make a difference.

    They're a good looking wheel, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13COBRA View Post
    My whole reasoning behind my comment was, what does the weight cutting help on the street? Someone MIGHT be able to pull 70-75% of the vehicle's true performance on a public street (ill-advised), and even at 85% an additional, or lack of, 25-30lbs is not going to make a difference.

    They're a good looking wheel, no doubt.
    You're totally right. These are automotive jewelry, fo sho. It's way cheaper for me to go on a diet and lose 20 pounds. I didn't do it for performance. I just did it because it's cool!

    I'm switching to 16oz Busch Light for the rest of the year. That ought to pay for it. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan savage View Post
    you're totally right. These are automotive jewelry, fo sho. It's way cheaper for me to go on a diet and lose 20 pounds. I didn't do it for performance. I just did it because it's cool!

    I'm switching to 16oz busch light for the rest of the year. That ought to pay for it. Lol

    lol

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    This is a video I watched that cleared some of the doubts I had in the beginning.


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    remember this is 30+ lbs of rotational (better acceleration/braking) and unsprung (better handling) weight and lets not forget the bragging rights lol. Most of the cars we drive on the street are way more capable than what we could achieve on the street without breaking every single law in the universe anyway.

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    ^ then you need acr carbon rotors too!!

    Do it!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayousef View Post
    This is a video I watched that cleared some of the doubts I had in the beginning.

    Yes I wouldn't be so concerned with the radial impact. Its the curbing and the clear coat and fiber damage that will be a problem in that instance and I can't see how that can be corrected without it being seen/obvious-unless you paint it over I guess. And tbh honest curbing will be the most common issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by stradman View Post
    Yes I wouldn't be so concerned with the radial impact. Its the curbing and the clear coat and fiber damage that will be a problem in that instance and I can't see how that can be corrected without it being seen/obvious-unless you paint it over I guess. And tbh honest curbing will be the most common issue
    I have a friend in our local club that is a distributor for Alloy Gators (don't buy the cheap made in China ones on eBay or Amazon!). They are strips that go between the tire and the rim to protect the rim from curbing. After spending large coin on these wheels I would seriously consider getting a set. They come in many colors including black. PM me if you want the contact info for my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Savage View Post
    You're totally right. These are automotive jewelry, fo sho. It's way cheaper for me to go on a diet and lose 20 pounds. I didn't do it for performance. I just did it because it's cool!

    I'm switching to 16oz Busch Light for the rest of the year. That ought to pay for it. lol
    hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpent View Post
    ^ then you need acr carbon rotors too!!

    Do it!!!!
    Forgot to say I have an ACR, GTSR to be specific those are gonna look gorgeous, ill make sure to weight them and take lots of pics when I get them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
    Congrats, although I wish you'd have given a VOA sponsor a chance to take care of you

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    Sorry about that! I really got an offer I couldnt refuse, I think the vendor isnt making a dime on those wheels at the price I got to be honest.

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    Forgeline has taken an interesting approach in using aluminum spokes to avoid some of the heat issues that others are having. An even more interesting (i.e., weight saving) approach might be carbon barrels and forged magnesium spokes but no one has done this -- yet!

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    I think Dymag had previously done carbon barrels with magnesium spokes but thats before they went bankrupt, I think the new re-born Dymag uses carbon barrels and aluminum centers as well. The carbon/aluminum wheels weigh about the same as a full magnesium wheel. So I wonder if full magnesium is better or if full carbon is better or a mixture.

    Porsche seems to offer magnesium wheels on the RS cars, they are also now offering full carbon wheels first shown on the Turbo S Exclusive, Ferrari offers a full carbon wheel on the 488 Pista, and Mclaren is using some aluminum center and carbon barrel wheel on the full carbon MSO Senna.

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    Those Porsche magnesium wheels are around 20k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racingswh View Post
    All of the possible performance benefit is lost with your tire choice. Like AZ said switch to a slick. More weight savings over just the wheels alone and vastly superior grip.
    Agreed, a great example of this is going from stock rear Kumho tires to Sport Cup 2s - Kumho is 41 Lbs and PSC2 is 33 Lbs. 8 Lbs per corner saved without even going to slicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ek1 View Post
    Agreed, a great example of this is going from stock rear Kumho tires to Sport Cup 2s - Kumho is 41 Lbs and PSC2 is 33 Lbs. 8 Lbs per corner saved without even going to slicks.
    Or the Hoosier R7 at 30 lbs = saving 11 lbs per corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Linton View Post
    Forgeline has taken an interesting approach in using aluminum spokes to avoid some of the heat issues that others are having. An even more interesting (i.e., weight saving) approach might be carbon barrels and forged magnesium spokes but no one has done this -- yet!
    The carbon wheels on the Mustang GT350R have metal in the spokes and covered with carbon...can't remember if it's magnesium or aluminum though...

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    I found a place to save a little money on R7s. If anyone is interested, shoot me a PM.

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    I saw these carbon fiber wheels at the Forgeline booth at Barrett Jackson Palm Beach this past weekend and they are incredibly light. They had just the barrels with no center for a weight demonstration and it almost felt fake in your hand. It could be lifted with one finger easily. I think the only limitation at this point is the diameters and widths of the barrels don't offer fitment for a large amount of cars. Hopefully more wheel makers will jump on board and the cost will lower in the coming years because the performance will for sure be noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayousef View Post
    I think Dymag had previously done carbon barrels with magnesium spokes but thats before they went bankrupt, I think the new re-born Dymag uses carbon barrels and aluminum centers as well. The carbon/aluminum wheels weigh about the same as a full magnesium wheel. So I wonder if full magnesium is better or if full carbon is better or a mixture.

    Porsche seems to offer magnesium wheels on the RS cars, they are also now offering full carbon wheels first shown on the Turbo S Exclusive, Ferrari offers a full carbon wheel on the 488 Pista, and Mclaren is using some aluminum center and carbon barrel wheel on the full carbon MSO Senna.
    Interesting that you mention Dymag, because I think that's who OEMs the CF barrels for Forgeline. I saw some early Forgeline CF wheels that still had Dymag stampings on the barrels. I wonder who Ford is using. Would be nice to have some more supplier diversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathansvt View Post
    Interesting that you mention Dymag, because I think that's who OEMs the CF barrels for Forgeline. I saw some early Forgeline CF wheels that still had Dymag stampings on the barrels. I wonder who Ford is using. Would be nice to have some more supplier diversity.
    Ford uses carbon revolution from australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpent View Post
    Those Porsche magnesium wheels are around 20k.
    Mag wheels have always been pricey. I had a set of custom made magnesium wheels for my ZX400R race bike in 2004, and those cost me some $1800. Despite being made in Germany, the shipping cost wasn't the worse thing.
    Then again, the front wheel was some 2.2lbs and the rear was about 5lbs. For a motorcycle that weighted about 220lbs, those wheels were amazing.
    So, I can imagine 4 wheels that are a whole lot bigger... That's a lot of magnesium lol


 
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