New Gen V guy with a couple of quick questions

[chris_lee]

Just picked up a 2014 SRT with about 6k on it. Initial impressions are great. I had no idea how raw this car was going to be/feel. I've been in lots of fast cars but this feels TOTALLY different in every way. Anyway... I've noticed that when I turn the steering wheel almost full lock "driving in a parking garage" I can hear a constant squeak "not PS motor whine", but more like a squeak/belt slip. It takes a pretty tight turn to get it to happen. PS fluid level is perfect. The sound is close to a brake squeak like sound. I'm not sure if if the seller got some cleaner on the belt but the belt looks great. I purchased a 3y/36 warranty on the car but didn't want to take it in if it was something simple or common.

Also, when driving with the windows up do you normally hear the valve train/drony sound even louder? Windows down sounds amazing. Windows up sounds well... insane. First viper, so figure this is probably normal V10 music. Thanks guys!

[texasram]

the only time i hear valve train noise is when looking under the hood, but it certanly is quieter since i switched to 15w50, does the squeek become apparent while moving at full lock or can you sit still at full lock and still get squeek?

[Lost me beer]

As for the squeak, does it do it on asphalt too? I am betting it is the tires. They are extremely wide, and when turning the tires will tend to slip a bit (chatter) on the surface at the extreme sides.... Mostly fronts btw.
Thats my best guess anyway.
Congrats on the new beast. Treat her tenderly!
Troy

[chris_lee]

I've only noticed the squeak when rolling at very slow speeds in parking situations. That's when I would be turning nearly full lock to park. Have not noticed anything with normal driving conditions. Will have to experiment with it a bit later this afternoon. I'll have someone turn it sitting still with the hood up and see what I can figure out. That should narrow it down

I watched a few videos of other Gen V test drives and also noticed the injector/valve train noise. I'm currently running 0w40 that was changed from the dealer during purchase.

[Anton28]

Congrats on the purchase! You have experienced first hand what I explain to people when asked what makes the viper so unique. Its raw, brutal, not excuses type of car. A real drivers car. After almost 15 years of Viper ownership, nothing else will ever satisfy.

As far as your issues, sorry can't be of much of help.

[Jet Slicker]

The squeak can definitely be the tires. At full lock it will kind of pull/skid them and make noise. Especially if it's cold out (Maybe like under 45~50 degrees). Seems to do it more on concrete than asphalt in my experience.

[Vipes]

Is it when you're still moving in a tight turn? These cars actually still have grease fittings. Could be worth a try to top them off...

[ForTehNguyen]

its called tire skip, its an inherit thing on RWD cars when you turn the wheel full during a turn. Its a low speed understeer.

talk to ClayR on this forum for a warranty, should be able to beat the price on others. You can cancel others with pro rated usually.

[chris_lee]

The squeak can definitely be the tires. At full lock it will kind of pull/skid them and make noise. Especially if it's cold out (Maybe like under 45~50 degrees). Seems to do it more on concrete than asphalt in my experience.

Interesting, didn’t even consider the tires. As soon as I get back in I’ll try and see if it does it while not moving.

Always the fun part of buying used when you discover all the little things :-/

[swexlin]

its called tire skip, its an inherit thing on RWD cars when you turn the wheel full during a turn. Its a low speed understeer.

talk to ClayR on this forum for a warranty, should be able to beat the price on others. You can cancel others with pro rated usually.

This, it's your tires. Normal. And yes, the V10 is a sewing machine! Same with the Hemi V8 in my truck. It's a Mopar thing!

[chris_lee]

This, it's your tires. Normal. And yes, the V10 is a sewing machine! Same with the Hemi V8 in my truck. It's a Mopar thing!

I could not stand waiting anymore and went out to my parking garage to test a few things out. Looks like you guys are right. Not moving there is no sound going full lock, reversing out of the spot at near/full lock produced no sound. Must be the tires, but I'll listen close the next few drives. Happy it did not start squealing like a pig while not moving.

[serpent]

its called tire skip, its an inherit thing on RWD cars when you turn the wheel full during a turn.

I never had this in my mustang or gto. The viper with the stock pzero grip tire the front tires would chudder as I leave the driveway making a left into the street. This is a quarter turn too.
Op my tires squeak because I went 1” larger rim diameter and the tire side wall is still 30. Also lowered the car and I think the MPS4S tires have a slightly taller side wall. Not donut shape. But bigger than the other brands. Next time I’m going with 285 wide front since this combo is only for street use.

[nitromilt]

I’m betting it’s tires... my ACRE does it and so does my Panamara...... don’t know about asphalt... only 46 miles on Viper and 2400 on Porsche.

[chris_lee]

Damn... I spoke to soon. After the car got nice and warm after about 10 minutes it started up again. So I drove around my block and tried a few things. Finally with my head out of the car I am 90% sure it's coming from the rear and not the front.... so now I'm really stumped. Sounds almost exactly like brake squeal but not quite that loud. Turning right worst than turning left. But both directions. I will have my son stand by it when I drive by next time to confirm it's the rear tomorrow. Any ideas?

I guess it's possible that sound is playing tricks on me and is from the front... but it sure did sound like the rear to me. I wonder if it's been sitting for some time and just needs the legs stretched a bit. Maybe some miles will correct it.

[ViperJames]

Congrats on the purchase! Just a thought most 2014 SRTs had the R28 and R29 recalls if so the warranty is extended through Chrysler to 10 yr 100K miles like my 2014 SRT so check that out and good luck

[Gen3CoupeTX]

My hunch is you have nothing to worry about ... But I do know how maddening an unexplained noise can be. And if you think a Gen 5 is raw, jump in an earlier generation someday. Enjoy the Viper. There's just nothing else like them!

[chris_lee]

Did some playing around in the parking garage when I got to work today. It was just getting warm so it was starting do the squeak sound again. I did some reading about the e-brake on these cars sticking. I've been using the e-brake every time I park and I assume so was the dealer. While driving once the squeak started I could change the sound, stop it, or quiet it buy pulling slightly on the e-brake. Seems strange it only makes the sound on turns, but it sure sounds like brake squeak. I've read about many people having issues with the e-brake pad sticking on the inside I'm thinking I found my sound. If I stop using the e-brake I wonder if that will go away or do I need to pull it push the piston back inspect everything.

Thanks again for the tips guys! Really happy to see we have a place like this. Makes owning the car a different experience for sure.

[chris_lee]

My hunch is you have nothing to worry about ... But I do know how maddening an unexplained noise can be. And if you think a Gen 5 is raw, jump in an earlier generation someday. Enjoy the Viper. There's just nothing else like them!

That was the first thing I thought lol. The early ones must just feel mad max level insanity. Absolutely addicted already. These cars REALLY hate going slow. I was blown away how smooth it got once you really get going. Going slow the car feels like it just wants to kick you out and drive itself.

[genVer]

If I stop using the e-brake I wonder if that will go away or do I need to pull it push the piston back inspect everything.

If it is your e-brake it will not resolve itself. You must dismount and manually push the piston back in. It's a bit of work but not that difficult.

[ViperGeorge]

If it is your e-brake it will not resolve itself. You must dismount and manually push the piston back in. It's a bit of work but not that difficult.

If I'm not mistaken you have to screw the piston of the e-brake in not just push it. There should be two dimples in the face of the piston for a tool that can be used to turn it in. I just use needle nose pliers. By the way if you do look at the e-brake check the inside pad, they wear out even if you don't use the e-brake. Much worse on a Gen 3/4 but it still happens on a Gen 5 just not as quickly.

[chris_lee]

If I'm not mistaken you have to screw the piston of the e-brake in not just push it. There should be two dimples in the face of the piston for a tool that can be used to turn it in. I just use needle nose pliers. By the way if you do look at the e-brake check the inside pad, they wear out even if you don't use the e-brake. Much worse on a Gen 3/4 but it still happens on a Gen 5 just not as quickly.

Roger that. I'll check it out asap. The thought of caliper bolts just gives me chills. Stuck caliper bolts and many busted knuckles has been my track record. Every damn time