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    Question What is considered a good price nowadays on a quot used quot Gen V

    I'm in the market to buy my first Viper and am seeing prices all over the place for the past few months. I'm looking for a non-ACR just because it seems like its the better bargain for daily drivability and about half the price of the ACR's right now. I know prices got inflated once production shut down and those ACR cars listing for over sticker.

    As far as I can tell, there are no major differences between all the Gen V's minus the ACR variants and T/A? So basically I'm down to mileage/age in terms of determining a fair price. Or where there any major issues in the earlier years that got fixed? I heard that some 2014 and all 2015 and above years have reinforced rear hoods that can support the weight of the ACR wing, while earlier models cannot.

    Is this accurate? And is there anything I need to specifically look for or ask about when checking out a used Viper? What's a fair/good price these days?

    Thanks again! Hope to be a true member soon! Can't wait!

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    dude theres one of these threads every month, browse through a few pages and youll have your answers

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    Shop like a fiend. Prices are all over the place (mid $40s for a buy back early SRT to $250K for a few delusional advertisers) besides the hunt is fun.

    A GTC either TA2.0 or ACR package just sold at auction for $83750. Not sure that it was a Bondurant car. It was all white.

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    buy the newest cleanest unmolested one you can find.. they arent building anymore and they arent getting cheaper. kbb/nada values are pretty off on these cars since they are so limited in production and have so many custom/different option combos. so make sure you have someone knowledgeable/familiar with gen 5 vipers go over it, find the color you like and pull the trigger. you wont be sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DZnutz View Post
    dude theres one of these threads every month, browse through a few pages and youll have your answers
    Ok, thanks. Did some searching but I guess I was using the wrong keywords. But prices do change with time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRT_BluByU View Post
    buy the newest cleanest unmolested one you can find.. they arent building anymore and they arent getting cheaper. kbb/nada values are pretty off on these cars since they are so limited in production and have so many custom/different option combos. so make sure you have someone knowledgeable/familiar with gen 5 vipers go over it, find the color you like and pull the trigger. you wont be sorry.
    I don't know any viper owners, would a dodge dealer PPI be good enough? Anything specific to look out for?

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    What area are you in? I'm sure another local owner would help you with the inspection etc. I wouldn't rely solely on a dealer for ppi

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    Bruce H.
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    I would contact your local VOA club and ask if they have a technical person as a club director or member, and if any local cars are for sale. Also ask if there is a recommended dealer or two in your area that has a Viper tech. That would be two or three sources of knowledgeable people to discuss and/or look at a prospective purchase. That would be a confident and convenient way to buy as opposed to chasing cars on the other side of the country. Lots of cars are going to have had issues, some serious, some not, and price would likely be affected either way. Don't be afraid of mileage as these cars are very robust. If yours will be a driver not much sense paying a large premium for one with super low mileage as it won't stay that way for long. Condition is key, and some with low mileage can actually be pretty bad. Examine yourself, don't rely on photos. A friend learned that lesson the hard way.

    And if you find a car you like don't worry about hearing of a similar car somewhere that sold for less as you'll never know the whole story. Once you've seen a couple or a few you'll start to get an idea of what the market is where you are looking and you can go from there. Highly optioned Vipers haven't always yielded higher used prices which can make them a good buy if that's what you're looking for.

    Good luck with your search!

    Bruce

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    Bruce has given you great direction. And, if you answer camarochevy's question by posting your location, you might be surprised at just how much great help that may become available to you.

    Good hunting !!

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    There's much more than just T/A and ACR. Vipers without wings come in:
    SRT : base spec
    GT : mid spec
    GTS : high spec

    Bear in mind that both TA1 and TA2 are based on SRT spec, so they have the 6 vent hood, a must have for some. The GTS is highly optioned with real leather, alcantara roof liner, 2 vent hood, and 2 mode suspension among other options. The GT spec splits the difference with a 2 vent hood, real leather seats, and 2 mode suspension.

    SRT Vipers can be had for the best price, being they were price leaders when new. GTS Vipers can be had for the best value, as the MSRP was much higher when new, but sell for not much more than an SRT used. 2015 and newer SRT came with what were only options on previous years of back up camera and 12 speaker stereo. All 2015 and newer Vipers came with alcantara on the lower half of the dash. TA1 aero, called advanced aero, could be optioned on all 3, which consisted of carbon lip spoiler and carbon splitter up front.

    I could go on, but that's a little more than was mentioned......

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    The 1000 rwhp twin turbo GTS for $94k on eBay might be a good deal. I'm not sure what kind of TT kit this is but the 3 most of us know about cost $50k-$60k installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darbgnik View Post
    There's much more than just T/A and ACR. Vipers without wings come in:
    SRT : base spec
    GT : mid spec
    GTS : high spec

    Bear in mind that both TA1 and TA2 are based on SRT spec, so they have the 6 vent hood, a must have for some. The GTS is highly optioned with real leather, alcantara roof liner, 2 vent hood, and 2 mode suspension among other options. The GT spec splits the difference with a 2 vent hood, real leather seats, and 2 mode suspension.

    SRT Vipers can be had for the best price, being they were price leaders when new. GTS Vipers can be had for the best value, as the MSRP was much higher when new, but sell for not much more than an SRT used. 2015 and newer SRT came with what were only options on previous years of back up camera and 12 speaker stereo. All 2015 and newer Vipers came with alcantara on the lower half of the dash. TA1 aero, called advanced aero, could be optioned on all 3, which consisted of carbon lip spoiler and carbon splitter up front.

    I could go on, but that's a little more than was mentioned......
    dont forget the GTC cars which have GT on the fender but can be spec’ed as ACRs or TAs.. same interior, leather, springs, sways, brakes, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by catwood View Post
    A GTC either TA2.0 or ACR package just sold at auction for $83750. Not sure that it was a Bondurant car. It was all white.
    Lol you’re too much Catwood. You always find some busted auction outlier with who knows what background as an example of current prices. As if you’re actually going to get a decent ACR for 83K. Or 93K. Or 103K....can only imagine the story behind an 83K ACR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJon View Post
    Lol you’re too much Catwood. You always find some busted auction outlier with who knows what background as an example of current prices. As if you’re actually going to get a decent ACR for 83K. Or 93K. Or 103K....can only imagine the story behind an 83K ACR.
    ding ding ding!

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    All cars have the same powertrain save for the 6th gear ratio in the GT/GTS 15-17’s (I’m not 100% sure that is true).

    Speaking of colour, once you determine your favourite colour check this website to get an idea on that colour/stripe availability:

    http://www.theviperregistry.com/build_details.php

    Depending on your colour preferences you may be very limited in your selection.

    As others have said, if possible, look at and have the car inspected prior to purchase. I bought mine w/o seeing it, it turned out to be as described with a couple Easter eggs the dealer didn’t know the car had.

    I originally wanted a 2014 TA. After considering the cost differential, planned usage, and especially mods I planned I elected to go with an SRT at about 2/3 the cost of the TA. For me, the two vent hood was a show stopper but notably the GTS cars have depreciated more than the SRT’s and definitely have a nicer interior and more extensive options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce H. View Post
    I would contact your local VOA club and ask if they have a technical person as a club director or member, and if any local cars are for sale. Also ask if there is a recommended dealer or two in your area that has a Viper tech. That would be two or three sources of knowledgeable people to discuss and/or look at a prospective purchase. That would be a confident and convenient way to buy as opposed to chasing cars on the other side of the country. Lots of cars are going to have had issues, some serious, some not, and price would likely be affected either way. Don't be afraid of mileage as these cars are very robust. If yours will be a driver not much sense paying a large premium for one with super low mileage as it won't stay that way for long. Condition is key, and some with low mileage can actually be pretty bad. Examine yourself, don't rely on photos. A friend learned that lesson the hard way.

    And if you find a car you like don't worry about hearing of a similar car somewhere that sold for less as you'll never know the whole story. Once you've seen a couple or a few you'll start to get an idea of what the market is where you are looking and you can go from there. Highly optioned Vipers haven't always yielded higher used prices which can make them a good buy if that's what you're looking for.

    Good luck with your search!

    Bruce
    Great info Bruce! The biggest advantage is fellow Viper owners and how willing they are to help out others. Like Bruce said spend some time making some calls and meet with some local members and you will learn some good things.

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    Some interesting hammer prices at recent Mecum Auction. A seven year old Gen 4 hammered at six figures. Price/value is such a touchy subject with viper owners. Autotrader, cars. Com & dupont registry are great resources for a buyer. Still, those are only listings and a seller can list any price he wants. Those hammer prices though, they don't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Policy Limits View Post
    A seven year old Gen 4 hammered at six figures.
    That was a 164 mile ACR final edition from a known collection. I wouldn't exactly use that as the bench mark for what the OP is searching for.

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    Agreed. Especially since he's not looking for a Gen 4. The point is the value of something is what someone is willing to pay for it and that is only quantified by actual sales prices. See: touchy.

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    Viper pricing is all over the place because the car is notorious for being modified and tracked. See Toyota Supra turbo. Same phenomenon. Most are modded and have been driven hard. Find a clean, stock car and you are paying real $$.

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    Just reporting the facts and really I don't know if it was a TA2.0 or base ACR packaged, but it was a GTC car with the options but it was not an ACR-E That Viper will show up with a clean carfax at some dealer as a single owner car. It won't matter if it was a Bondurant car or not to the seller. I didn't research it much as it didn't hold any interest for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camarochevy1970 View Post
    That was a 164 mile ACR final edition from a known collection. I wouldn't exactly use that as the bench mark for what the OP is searching for.
    While catwood is on the low side of the spectrum this policy limits guy is on the high end. I'm surprised he hasnt made a fake ad for an ACR for 1 million. Seems to be consistently quoting the sky-high ACRs like they are actually going for that price.

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    There are still brand new untitled special editions on dealers lots. Yes, at a premium with ADM but still no where near the silly astronomical prices on eBay and others. If you think anyone is buying them at those prices you're an idiot. Or an idiotic owner who has to constantly massage his ego. Not naming names though.

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    Here ya. It's as idiotic as stating one would never buy a Gen V because there's no competent service provider on the entire east coast and then going out and buying one. And as idiotic as buying a second one because it's a true ACR unlike the fake contrived GTC ACR. Yet more idiotic would be, wait for it, selling your real ACR for the one contrived as special. Talk about idiotic...

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    Stop eating eachother
    Does anyone know how many TOTAL ACR-E that is produced in 2016 and 2017 included the GTC based models : 1of1, and those GTC models with the sticker saying its a Voodoo2, GTS-R , 1:28, etc.... the biggest difference on this cars are the stickers. ( carbon, colour seatbelt, speakers is different as this could be chosen on order of the car)
    For me its seems to be between 500 and 800 ACR-E...
    The ACR-E is a Rare car, and will rise in value when owners start`s to destroy their cars on the racetrack.
    The only obstacle will be if Viper is reborn again in 2020!
    Time will show.
    Last edited by olebrum; 11-20-2017 at 02:47 PM.


 
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