I've had three GenV ACR's. You CANNOT forget them. Women, I can't remember 80% of their names. But Vipers...
This thread delivers.
catwood has been in the Viper community for a long time and he is, I believe, in the car business. People calling him out look pretty foolish.
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So one of the vipers I bought was a wrecked one, i fixed it and before I could track it a buddy wanted it bad and I sold it for what I had into it. Well excuse me if I don't remember if it was an ACR or not and I'm the asshole. I owned it maybe 8 weeks. who the heck cares anymore.
$135 new, not NVDR'd viper ACR warranty starts upon purchase and I turned it down. Orig msrp 152.6k Yes the owner of the dealership who is 63 hung a dealer plate and drove it for a year.
$115 used ACR, repanted nose, pending another buyer to not to get a loan. It's been tracked....OH MY!
I don't need a loan but I'm not sure I even want one anymore.
It's an expensive toy to f*ck up at the track. I have a race car for that already that I don't need to worry as much about. It's as fast as an ACR already for my level of talent and alot cheaper and safer to run. It's one and only downfall is it cannot go on the street.
What ever you all want to believe or not, they are softening. Maybe not as much as the GTS and the SRT models but in the end, it's a car that most folks don't understand, most don't want and only a few us would enjoy. The viper is a niche car for a niche market.....WE ARE BUT A FEW! Most of us have the car we want. There are a few left to buy into the hype. I am not one of those and if you shop hard enough you can find your deal. You all do what you want as will I.
I'm out
Sorry, I don't agree and I can explain why. If there was a good deal on a no stories ACRE viper for longer than a day---I would have bought it. I would love to have one to keep as art and one to do whatever I want with it. The reality is being in the business you think that painting a nose or tracking a viper doesn't mean much, but to a potential viper owner it probably means a 20-30% discount. People are willing to pay for great no story ACRE vipers and full price, but there are too many factors to explain why some don't sell and others sell instantly. The other thing to understand is that all the options on an ACR bring almost no additional value. ACRE 1 of 1's sell almost instantly under 130k because they cost 130k for the base model. Then if you add special paint, stripes, or carbon accents etc the price goes up on MSRP, but the market has shown it doesn't really give you much for those options. You won't sell a $160k viper with no stories instantly, but you'll sell a $130k viper with no stories in very fast time. You just have to know the market. And the reality is no one wants a 130k toy that someone else abused, so sell it for 110-115 and you might find someone that is willing to buy it.
For the record, I'm not in the dealer business. i do injection molded plastics for a variety of industries including the automotive oem, but also phones, medical and a variety of things. And quite honestly buy one, don't buy one it's your money as it's my money and my decision on what I do.
I'm out......
Last edited by catwood; 10-29-2017 at 11:59 PM.
I may put all this BS to the test soon as i'm bored and want something new. Done only 1700 miles in my $170k spec ACR-E 1 of 1 and my guess is it would bring circa $155k even with the 20k of mods i have (full ppf) being a nice bonus.
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