The Ring 2017

[ClayR]

It is 700 horsepower. My friends wife is the GM of the Porsche store in town. He told me only 100 were coming Stateside and that a guy had already put down money if they got one. It was the one car that almost swayed me from these two new Vipers I'm buying. I got a new ACR-E I'm going to have fun with at track and I'm getting a GTSR to hold onto with low miles for a collectible. My dream car before I got my ACR was a 911, timeless design and racing pedigree. Always been fascinated with the Germans. Not so much the Italians.

[Snakebit10]

Yes its a 700 horse car. You know how efficient Porsche's are with their power to the ground. A 580hp Porsche runs with a 645hp Viper. Imagine a rwd 700 hp Porsche vs a 645hp ACR? And now it has some pretty good aero. It will be a force even for the ACR methinks. We shall see.

[VIPER BAZ UK]

Sorry I haven't posted here for a while since FB took over...

Good luck to all involved !!!!!

Concentrate and do us proud!!!

A few pics I have saved from different sites .None are mine.....

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[VIPER BAZ UK]

Few more.....

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[Boba Fett]

It is 700 horsepower. My friends wife is the GM of the Porsche store in town. He told me only 100 were coming Stateside and that a guy had already put down money if they got one. It was the one car that almost swayed me from these two new Vipers I'm buying. I got a new ACR-E I'm going to have fun with at track and I'm getting a GTSR to hold onto with low miles for a collectible. My dream car before I got my ACR was a 911, timeless design and racing pedigree. Always been fascinated with the Germans. Not so much the Italians.

gotcha

Yes its a 700 horse car. You know how efficient Porsche's are with their power to the ground. A 580hp Porsche runs with a 645hp Viper. Imagine a rwd 700 hp Porsche vs a 645hp ACR? And now it has some pretty good aero. It will be a force even for the ACR methinks. We shall see.

absolutely...Porsche is a force to be reckoned with, no argument here..

[SlateEd]

Is this really true? I had a different impression of the P1 and its capabilities.

Go Vipers!

Not really true.. the P1 is extreme. Also hard to say how fast the LaF really is, since Fiat won't let it go head to head with a Viper ACR... afraid the cheap step child will outrun the first born son....

[ForTehNguyen]

Not really true.. the P1 is extreme. Also hard to say how fast the LaF really is, since Fiat won't let it go head to head with a Viper ACR... afraid the cheap step child will outrun the first born son....

when they beat the ferraris in IMSA, SRT race team was disbanded. Wouldnt be the first time

/conspiracy

[ACR]

How many more attempts will be made and/or how long are they out their for?

[AZTVR]

How many more attempts will be made and/or how long are they out their for?

On the Gofund me page, Russ Oasis says that they have the opportunity to book 3.5 hours in August, and they are looking to see if they can arrange a couple of single end-of-the-day runs.

[ViperSRT]

If so I hope the hours are spread across several days so a single rainy day doesn't spoil the second effort.

[Stealth]

Not really true.. the P1 is extreme. Also hard to say how fast the LaF really is, since Fiat won't let it go head to head with a Viper ACR... afraid the cheap step child will outrun the first born son....

There is an internet video of a holy trinity drag race on an airfield. The 918 has the first lead out of the hole, then the P1 pulls away from all cars. The Ferarri is 2nd. The race is to over 200mph and the narrator indicates that neither of the other 2 cars would ever catch the P1 given more room, etc.--the rate of P1 pull away is increasing, etc. A short track with lots of curves may favor the 918 due to its front wheel motors.

[IHOP]

There is an internet video of a holy trinity drag race on an airfield. The 918 has the first lead out of the hole, then the P1 pulls away from all cars. The Ferarri is 2nd. The race is to over 200mph and the narrator indicates that neither of the other 2 cars would ever catch the P1 given more room, etc.--the rate of P1 pull away is increasing, etc. A short track with lots of curves may favor the 918 due to its front wheel motors.

After watching the new (crappy) BBC Top Gear and The Grand Tour race of the holy trinity, I thought the P1 was pretty impressive. Maybe just because it has the race mode that isn't for use on the street but I would imagine on the ring it would do pretty well. Top Gear had the P1 winning with the best lap time and then taking off a few more seconds when put into race mode. Then The Grand Tour had the 918 winning.

[Arizona Vipers]

Yes its a 700 horse car. You know how efficient Porsche's are with their power to the ground. A 580hp Porsche runs with a 645hp Viper. Imagine a rwd 700 hp Porsche vs a 645hp ACR? And now it has some pretty good aero. It will be a force even for the ACR methinks. We shall see.

Uhhhh, a 500hp non-turbo Porsche annihilates the Viper in all accelerations tests- http://www.motortrend.com/cars/dodge...he-911-gt3-rs/
The Turbo 580hp you mention isn't even similar in acceleration times vs the Viper it's light years ahead. I don't think people understand how quick cars have got over the last 10 years while the Viper has not got much faster. Yes we've gone up a tiny bit in horsepower, but everyone else has gone WAY up, and the transmission/launch technology has gone through the roof. $40K Audis are hitting 60mph faster than the Viper now. I only say this to show how it makes the Viper's lap times much more impressive when every other car in our price range accelerates MUCH faster. Even the BASE 911 is faster in the quarter mile. The BASE 911. I track against a stock GT3 all the time and kill him on the corners and he smokes me in the straights. Times have changed. I've posted other comparison articles where the BASE 370hp 911 tied the Viper in 0-60 and 1/4 mile.

[Snakebit10]

I hear you Arizona. And you made my point even better than I did. Yes the 700 hp GT2 RS even with less aggressive aero than the Viper will be simply monstrous on the Ring etc.

But I must say that those mag tests don't powershift the Viper in those tests. When you see guys like PDV etc powershift from roll etc the Viper actually stays with or beats some of those Porsches. In that article you can see why as the Viper is already 2 mph faster and climbing at the end of the 1/4. The Porsches rear engine mounting gives it better traction off the line as you already know. Its mostly in the tranny superiority in terms of keeping the engine in the power band why a Viper will not stay with the current crop of DCT'd cars when its shifted normally. Powershift though and its a different story. BUTTTT that wont be advantageous on a circuit track like the Ring. Next Viper hopefully gets DCT and active aero..

[ForTehNguyen]

thats the difference between PDK and manual. Ive learned over time to not get caught up in tiresome 0-60 times.

and its still #1 in that comparison test

[ek1]

Uhhhh, a 500hp non-turbo Porsche annihilates the Viper in all accelerations tests- http://www.motortrend.com/cars/dodge...he-911-gt3-rs/
The Turbo 580hp you mention isn't even similar in acceleration times vs the Viper it's light years ahead. I don't think people understand how quick cars have got over the last 10 years while the Viper has not got much faster. Yes we've gone up a tiny bit in horsepower, but everyone else has gone WAY up, and the transmission/launch technology has gone through the roof. $40K Audis are hitting 60mph faster than the Viper now. I only say this to show how it makes the Viper's lap times much more impressive when every other car in our price range accelerates MUCH faster. Even the BASE 911 is faster in the quarter mile. The BASE 911. I track against a stock GT3 all the time and kill him on the corners and he smokes me in the straights. Times have changed. I've posted other comparison articles where the BASE 370hp 911 tied the Viper in 0-60 and 1/4 mile.

I was at a track day earlier this season. There was a dude with a 2017 GT3 RS. It was exactly the same thing as you described. I was faster than him in corners, but on a straight he was pulling away like I was standing, no matter what gear I was in. The ACR wasn't even close in straight line acceleration.

[SharpMan]

I was at a track day earlier this season. There was a dude with a 2017 GT3 RS. It was exactly the same thing as you described. I was faster than him in corners, but on a straight he was pulling away like I was standing, no matter what gear I was in. The ACR wasn't even close in straight line acceleration.

It's pretty simple...shorter gearing and quicker shifts. Just giving the Viper more performance- oriented gearing would make a huge difference.

[TrackAire]

It's pretty simple...shorter gearing and quicker shifts. Just giving the Viper more performance- oriented gearing would make a huge difference.

And an extra 2500 rpms between shifts. Once at higher speeds the torque of a slow revving engine is not as efficient as high spinning motor with short gears and instant no loss rpm shifts.

I look at the ACR-E as a hot MILF that can cook a great meal and the Porsche GT3 RS as a young hot supermodel with a minor coke habit.......

[13COBRA]

I look at the ACR-E as a hot MILF that can cook a great meal and the Porsche GT3 RS as a young hot supermodel with a minor coke habit.......

Probably the best description I've heard.

[IHOP]

😂😂😂😂 Awesome!

[Stealth]

And an extra 2500 rpms between shifts. Once at higher speeds the torque of a slow revving engine is not as efficient as high spinning motor with short gears and instant no loss rpm shifts.

I look at the ACR-E as a hot MILF that can cook a great meal and the Porsche GT3 RS as a young hot supermodel with a minor coke habit.......

Is this because the Porsche has no rack (or torque), just like most Supermodels?

[TrackAire]

Is this because the Porsche has no rack (or torque), just like most Supermodels?

On a Porsche, all the torque is in the rear end and for most "drivers" that is all that matters.......

[ek1]

Is this because the Porsche has no rack (or torque), just like most Supermodels?

The 911 Turbo S has a decent rack...553 lb.-ft Is that considered a "plus" size model?

[CarolinaViper]

The 911 Turbo S has a decent rack...553 lb.-ft Is that considered a "plus" size model?

Not a plus size, but rather a "D" cup size...not quite a "DD""...as we are talking about "Rack" sizes.

[TrackAire]

The 911 Turbo S has a decent rack...553 lb.-ft Is that considered a "plus" size model?

Plus size, regular size, rack or no rack.....Give me any car with over 500 lb.-ft and I become "fully torqued".