The Ring 2017

[06SRTCoupe]

The only joke here are the people in this thread whining and complaining and assuming that the organizers aren't going to update anyone. Stop your crying. These people have been part of the Viper community for years and now you're going to dismiss all that because you haven't seen an update on the VOA? I think some of you need to sell your Vipers, buy a Prius, and go find a safe space.

[99Vipers]

The only joke here are the people in this thread whining and complaining and assuming that the organizers aren't going to update anyone. Stop your crying. These people have been part of the Viper community for years and now your going to dismiss all that because you haven't seen an update on the VOA? I think some of you need to sell your Vipers, buy a Prius, and go find a safe space.

Now thats Funny I wonder what the ACR crew will do on here if the Ring time doesn't meet their expectations ?

[Vegaskid]

All good... I think most of the dialog is driven by the excitement of it all..

Good luck to all.

[TrackAire]

The only joke here are the people in this thread whining and complaining and assuming that the organizers aren't going to update anyone. Stop your crying. These people have been part of the Viper community for years and now you're going to dismiss all that because you haven't seen an update on the VOA? I think some of you need to sell your Vipers, buy a Prius, and go find a safe space.

So you are surprised that a group of people that tend to be control freaks, type A personalities, often run multi-million dollar companies, are opinionated, sometimes abrasive, know it alls, and think they can drive faster than the pro Ring drivers are hard to please no matter how hard Russ and the others try??

Seriously, the amount of effort put into this attempt is huge and appreciated. I am getting a lot of requests from friends on the track Mustang forum, the Ford GT forum and the Vette forum to post the link when available as they want to follow along.
As far as I know, a public type updating has never been done before for a Ring attempt and a lot of people just want to hear about it and live vicariously through the group putting it on. This is going to be very exciting.

[Pappy]

Weather forecast for next week is a little ragged, especially late in the week. Right now Tuesday/Wednesday looks a little better. Hope they get a good window with a dry track.

Pappy

[stradman]

Weather forecast for next week is a little ragged, especially late in the week. Right now Tuesday/Wednesday looks a little better. Hope they get a good window with a dry track.

Pappy

Well without a dry track they might as well not even attempt this...

[Scott_in_fl]

The weather folks are about as accurate as a broken clock. Thus, it is just as likely that they will have beautiful weather and perfect conditions for many clean runs. Positive thoughts everyone.

[Martin2000GTS]

Goes to show what they think of the Viper community! Happy to take money but no feedback for the fans!

way to represent with a nice post. Being a regional VP too. Jeeze. The effort to bring the car to the ring was funded by owners, nothing to do with Dodge.

[Martin2000GTS]

Russ thanks for the update and doing what you're doing. Hope you can make it to a New England event sometime.

Martin -

[Fatboy 18]

way to represent with a nice post. Being a regional VP too. Jeeze. The effort to bring the car to the ring was funded by owners, nothing to do with Dodge.

You need to read the post again, I know it's nothing to do with Dodge!

My Point is fans and owners have helped fund this. This Club also got behind the effort and help support this.
If you paid 10k + You were invited to go and watch the effort. Anyone not paying that much will only get to hear what is happening after the event. or from other internet posters when they are there.
Mr Oasis has already said they don't want crowds there.
But I will state again, the ring is a big place and there are many viewing areas, so other viper fans could be able to watch without trying to get in on the pit action and VIP Hospitality.
Try to think of it this way, What's your favorite football team? Whether they win or lose you are a fan and will support them. some fans are prepared to travel to watch the team, they may not have the best seats but are still prepared to travel,

So some of us here have asked when the match is going to be played so we could watch from another part of the track and the Team is not saying.

There are German/Dutch/French/English/Belgium fans that would have just liked to spectate, had our own social gathering and wish the Team well.
Where the hell is the harm in that? Sadly it is plain that they do not want us there!

Im going to get into personal insults, I love my Club and Always try to be helpful with How to guides and help fellow owners with problems on their cars. Coming together is what its supposed to be all about isnt it?

Im now done with this.
Sincerely
Mark Kidman
VOA United Kingdom
Vice President.

[stradman]

All good... I think most of the dialog is driven by the excitement of it all..

Good luck to all.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. I'm sure the organisers will update us all accordingly. However trying to look at it from a fans point of view-they also have a point too. Understanding that this effort is only being made possible through the contributions of the public, then I do think that they should have made the dates that the effort is being done public. If this was funded entirely by the owners of the two cars and their sponsors then that would have been a different matter. Its clear also the big donors are being told in order for them to make travel arrangements etc as they will be close at hand and intimately involved. However I think this courtesy-of mentioning the dates- could have at least been passed on to the fans as well. As Mark says the Ring is a big place with lots and lots of spectator areas outside the actual ring, which would not have encroached at all on the runs-indeed once the locals get wind of it there will be press and the public around to take photos anyway. Moreover whether the run is successful or not will not be determined by people knowing about the dates of the run or not. What will be will be in the end. As I understand it they are hiring the ring for the runs and so only the organisers will have a say as to who is in the actual ring at the time which is fair enough. But as I said there are loads of specatator areas outside the ring for fans that want to be there, and could witness things without affecting anything in the slightest. I don't think that is asking too much really.

[ViperGTS]

21 and 29 of July are blocked - the rest of July is "public racing"

[TrackAire]

The only thing anybody should be concerned with at this time is the weather.....pray for no rain. If it's happening this week, I would guess the 19th, 20th and 21st would be most obvious looking at the schedule of events.

I'm not sure what the opposite of a rain dance is, but right now that is what we should be doing.......

[Martin2000GTS]

You need to read the post again, I know it's nothing to do with Dodge!

My Point is fans and owners have helped fund this. This Club also got behind the effort and help support this.
If you paid 10k + You were invited to go and watch the effort. Anyone not paying that much will only get to hear what is happening after the event. or from other internet posters when they are there.
Mr Oasis has already said they don't want crowds there.
But I will state again, the ring is a big place and there are many viewing areas, so other viper fans could be able to watch without trying to get in on the pit action and VIP Hospitality.
Try to think of it this way, What's your favorite football team? Whether they win or lose you are a fan and will support them. some fans are prepared to travel to watch the team, they may not have the best seats but are still prepared to travel,

So some of us here have asked when the match is going to be played so we could watch from another part of the track and the Team is not saying.

There are German/Dutch/French/English/Belgium fans that would have just liked to spectate, had our own social gathering and wish the Team well.
Where the hell is the harm in that? Sadly it is plain that they do not want us there!

Im going to get into personal insults, I love my Club and Always try to be helpful with How to guides and help fellow owners with problems on their cars. Coming together is what its supposed to be all about isnt it?

Im now done with this.
Sincerely
Mark Kidman
VOA United Kingdom
Vice President.

Mark sorry if you felt I came off rude. I apologize. I see where you are coming from. However I still disagree. Event planning is a giant undertaking on many levels let alone this level. I plan massive events in our New England club every year. And every event ends up being spectacular with many happy members. Russ laid out the rules in the beginning on attending the event. That's the bottom line. He has not changed anything.

"Try to think of it this way, What's your favorite football team? - the Patriots
Whether they win or lose you are a fan and will support them. - yes
some fans are prepared to travel to watch the team - i have
they may not have the best seats but are still prepared to travel,- and you can buy a ticket no questions asked from the other stadium no problem, that was not an option on this event.

So some of us here have asked when the match is going to be played so we could watch from another part of the track and the Team is not saying. - when more information is released we may then know if we can watch it from a live feed or maybe not at all. I dont see the big deal. MAybe they dont have exact specifics on the date yet, there might be lots of other factors Russ doesn't care to spend his time explaining to us. Give the guy a break. Thanks to him this is even happening. I know when I was president of the New England club i put in a solid 15-20 hrs a week running it on top of my day job.

I dont blame them for not wanting other people there. Im sure there are many other factors. Maybe they want clean video as I am sure the run is going to be professionally recorded. You can never know whats going to happen when you post information on a public forum. My first year as president i was posting addresses and specifics on this forum, and i had random people coming to my lobster roll event, eating the lobster rolls, bringing their friends. We had mustang clubs meeting us at our meeting points for club activities.....

Coming together is what its all about. I believe in building friendships and good relationships, then more members come to events. But for the time being give Russ a break. He is doing an incrediable thing here and has put in countless hours I can only imagine. The guy should be praised on a daily basis for doing this, not badgered for minimal information.

Martin -

[Track Pack]

Should be any time now

[06SRTCoupe]

You need to read the post again, I know it's nothing to do with Dodge!

My Point is fans and owners have helped fund this. This Club also got behind the effort and help support this.
If you paid 10k + You were invited to go and watch the effort. Anyone not paying that much will only get to hear what is happening after the event. or from other internet posters when they are there.
Mr Oasis has already said they don't want crowds there.
But I will state again, the ring is a big place and there are many viewing areas, so other viper fans could be able to watch without trying to get in on the pit action and VIP Hospitality.
Try to think of it this way, What's your favorite football team? Whether they win or lose you are a fan and will support them. some fans are prepared to travel to watch the team, they may not have the best seats but are still prepared to travel,

So some of us here have asked when the match is going to be played so we could watch from another part of the track and the Team is not saying.

There are German/Dutch/French/English/Belgium fans that would have just liked to spectate, had our own social gathering and wish the Team well.
Where the hell is the harm in that? Sadly it is plain that they do not want us there!

Im going to get into personal insults, I love my Club and Always try to be helpful with How to guides and help fellow owners with problems on their cars. Coming together is what its supposed to be all about isnt it?

Im now done with this.
Sincerely
Mark Kidman
VOA United Kingdom
Vice President.

The way you're acting in this thread makes the last paragraph of your novel irrelevant. Glad to hear you are done posting in this thread because your negativity isn't needed.

[Dave292]

The way you're acting in this thread makes the last paragraph of your novel irrelevant. Glad to hear you are done posting in this thread because your negativity isn't needed.

Enough!!!!! Cut him some slack and drop it. Take about negativity.

[SandViper]

You would have to think, The reason that no info has come out is that to have this covered properly I am sure there are some Exclusive rights to to companies like say if Top Gear was to cover it or Motor Trend, or any other publication...

[Shooter]

We are not giving out specifics because we don't want a large crowd, (including those from other car companies who wish us bad luck), to interfere with what we need to do. You will get daily updates from Kumho Tire and Jhan Dolphin from Prefix. Those of us on the ground in Germany will also post videos through the Ring King Facebook page.

What a load of crap. The guy just wants to go and watch his favorite car on the Nring. He doesn't want to intrude on all the high paying special snowflakes, just sit by a corner somewhere along the track and watch. Reminds me of all the old VCA National Officers secret BS with the Gen V.

[ek1]

You remind me of the customers i deal with at work and more so my wife with this type of comment

NAILED IT about the wife!

[Stealth]

Again, great job for setting this up guys!

Agreed that, well meaning as others may be in terms of spectating, asking questions, etc. the likelihood of interference is HIGH if too many details are posted. Even if the VOA Member(s) or "Enthusiast(s)" did not interfere, others getting the information from the Forum or a Forum Member could cause mass hysteria (or at least unwanted distractions) at the track. Eye-of-the-Tiger/Viper focus is required for this serious and awesome effort!!

Go Vipers!

PS: Please try low downforce settings!

[SSGNRDZ_28]

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/the-vi...gring-laptime/

[ChevyChad]

I don't think that is really true. After watching GM being pressured for a Ring time for the C7 Z06 Corvette for 3 years, with years of testing, probable over-heating issues, one wrecked car, and no official time, I can see why the Viper effort would be close-hold until results can be released. Just hope they are good and the release is as classy as the 13-track record release in 2015! Sport Auto finally released a Z06 time and video - 7:13:9 - an okay time but not really that good considering improvements over the C6 Corvette (2011 ZR1 ran 7:19), better tire technology, and a somewhat improved track. However, if you have been watching the recent C7 ZR1 testing at the Ring (several videos on YouTube), that thing is a beast and will probably give the ACR a run for its money - big wing, improved cooling (probably at the expense of aero drag), and power reported to be well in excess of 700 HP.

Pappy

Just to clear something up here about the C7 Z06. That 7:13 time was set by a private individual with his own car. That was not a professional attempt by any means, so that 7:13 time could probably be a lot better had it been in the hands of a pro and also, who is to say how much time that dude had to practice and how much track time he actually bought. Yes, its a good time, but could be better and shouldnt be confused with a pro attempt.

Back to the original topic, I am thinking that the vipers will run this week/ weekend. I am sure Russ will give as many details about the run as he can when he can. I am very appreciative of his (and countless other's) efforts. I truly hope that the Viper can post a tremendous time! And it will also be interesting to see how it compares to the new C7 ZR1. What a great time to be an auto enthusiast.

[Snakebit10]

Goose bumps after seeing that vid. Eagerly awaiting the results. Be safe guys and beat that Performante convincingly...

[Boba Fett]

Just to clear something up here about the C7 Z06. That 7:13 time was set by a private individual with his own car. That was not a professional attempt by any means, so that 7:13 time could probably be a lot better had it been in the hands of a pro and also, who is to say how much time that dude had to practice and how much track time he actually bought. Yes, its a good time, but could be better and shouldnt be confused with a pro attempt.

Back to the original topic, I am thinking that the vipers will run this week/ weekend. I am sure Russ will give as many details about the run as he can when he can. I am very appreciative of his (and countless other's) efforts. I truly hope that the Viper can post a tremendous time! And it will also be interesting to see how it compares to the new C7 ZR1. What a great time to be an auto enthusiast.

Christian Gebhardt is his name and he is a racer with prior runs at his home in Germany on the ring. I own a ZO6 and think maybe there was a little left on the table. My speculation is 2-4 seconds but not much more.

I totally agree with you about Russ and how the new ZR1 will hold up against the ACR....Indeed a great time for us true enthusiasts.