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    The Ring 2017

    Any updates on the 2017 ACR at the "Ring"? Thought the last time I read an update the attempt to set the record was scheduled for July.

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    I've been trying to find out too, I heard from a Swiss owner it was yesterday, but then the Ring was showing that as a Public practise day, so that rumor was not true, I have heard from some other people it could be Thursday Friday next week? I have even asked the ring direct and they are saying nothing either :-(
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    I find it interesting that on the Viper Forum, with so many members contributing to the effort, there is, as far as I know, no new information on the date. Is this just a secret?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave292 View Post
    I find it interesting that on the Viper Forum, with so many members contributing to the effort, there is, as far as I know, no new information on the date. Is this just a secret?
    Goes to show what they think of the Viper community! Happy to take money but no feedback for the fans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy 18 View Post
    Goes to show what they think of the Viper community! Happy to take money but no feedback for the fans!
    I don't think that is really true. After watching GM being pressured for a Ring time for the C7 Z06 Corvette for 3 years, with years of testing, probable over-heating issues, one wrecked car, and no official time, I can see why the Viper effort would be close-hold until results can be released. Just hope they are good and the release is as classy as the 13-track record release in 2015! Sport Auto finally released a Z06 time and video - 7:13:9 - an okay time but not really that good considering improvements over the C6 Corvette (2011 ZR1 ran 7:19), better tire technology, and a somewhat improved track. However, if you have been watching the recent C7 ZR1 testing at the Ring (several videos on YouTube), that thing is a beast and will probably give the ACR a run for its money - big wing, improved cooling (probably at the expense of aero drag), and power reported to be well in excess of 700 HP.

    Pappy

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    I think they want to make a big deal of the results. I remember being at VOI 10 when they revealed the video of the last record run. Very exciting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    I don't think that is really true. After watching GM being pressured for a Ring time for the C7 Z06 Corvette for 3 years, with years of testing, probable over-heating issues, one wrecked car, and no official time, I can see why the Viper effort would be close-hold until results can be released. Just hope they are good and the release is as classy as the 13-track record release in 2015! Sport Auto finally released a Z06 time and video - 7:13:9 - an okay time but not really that good considering improvements over the C6 Corvette (2011 ZR1 ran 7:19), better tire technology, and a somewhat improved track. However, if you have been watching the recent C7 ZR1 testing at the Ring (several videos on YouTube), that thing is a beast and will probably give the ACR a run for its money - big wing, improved cooling (probably at the expense of aero drag), and power reported to be well in excess of 700 HP.

    Pappy
    As I earlier said, if this was an FCA thing I could understand the secrecy. But this is a Fan thing by people passionate about the car. Personally I have Zero interest in any other Dodge Product with 4 seats.

    All we wanted to know was when it was likely to be run. Some people have paid 10K for a VIP trip to the ring to watch it, thats fine, Im sure they will be having nice hotels and dinners. The ring is a Big place with many areas where the public can spectate. A few of us wanted to drive over and watch this but we are being told sweet FA because we have not paid 10k. I had no wish to rub noses with the people working on the car and the 10k fans watching from the pits, we just wanted to spectate somewhere else around the circuit and say we saw the car on track. Nothing more
    We would not even know what the lap time would be as its not broadcast around the ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    I don't think that is really true. After watching GM being pressured for a Ring time for the C7 Z06 Corvette for 3 years, with years of testing, probable over-heating issues, one wrecked car, and no official time, I can see why the Viper effort would be close-hold until results can be released. Just hope they are good and the release is as classy as the 13-track record release in 2015! Sport Auto finally released a Z06 time and video - 7:13:9 - an okay time but not really that good considering improvements over the C6 Corvette (2011 ZR1 ran 7:19), better tire technology, and a somewhat improved track. However, if you have been watching the recent C7 ZR1 testing at the Ring (several videos on YouTube), that thing is a beast and will probably give the ACR a run for its money - big wing, improved cooling (probably at the expense of aero drag), and power reported to be well in excess of 700 HP.

    Pappy
    Just to clear something up here about the C7 Z06. That 7:13 time was set by a private individual with his own car. That was not a professional attempt by any means, so that 7:13 time could probably be a lot better had it been in the hands of a pro and also, who is to say how much time that dude had to practice and how much track time he actually bought. Yes, its a good time, but could be better and shouldnt be confused with a pro attempt.

    Back to the original topic, I am thinking that the vipers will run this week/ weekend. I am sure Russ will give as many details about the run as he can when he can. I am very appreciative of his (and countless other's) efforts. I truly hope that the Viper can post a tremendous time! And it will also be interesting to see how it compares to the new C7 ZR1. What a great time to be an auto enthusiast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChevyChad View Post
    Just to clear something up here about the C7 Z06. That 7:13 time was set by a private individual with his own car. That was not a professional attempt by any means, so that 7:13 time could probably be a lot better had it been in the hands of a pro and also, who is to say how much time that dude had to practice and how much track time he actually bought. Yes, its a good time, but could be better and shouldnt be confused with a pro attempt.

    Back to the original topic, I am thinking that the vipers will run this week/ weekend. I am sure Russ will give as many details about the run as he can when he can. I am very appreciative of his (and countless other's) efforts. I truly hope that the Viper can post a tremendous time! And it will also be interesting to see how it compares to the new C7 ZR1. What a great time to be an auto enthusiast.
    Christian Gebhardt is his name and he is a racer with prior runs at his home in Germany on the ring. I own a ZO6 and think maybe there was a little left on the table. My speculation is 2-4 seconds but not much more.

    I totally agree with you about Russ and how the new ZR1 will hold up against the ACR....Indeed a great time for us true enthusiasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy 18 View Post
    Goes to show what they think of the Viper community! Happy to take money but no feedback for the fans!
    way to represent with a nice post. Being a regional VP too. Jeeze. The effort to bring the car to the ring was funded by owners, nothing to do with Dodge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin2000GTS View Post
    way to represent with a nice post. Being a regional VP too. Jeeze. The effort to bring the car to the ring was funded by owners, nothing to do with Dodge.
    You need to read the post again, I know it's nothing to do with Dodge!

    My Point is fans and owners have helped fund this. This Club also got behind the effort and help support this.
    If you paid 10k + You were invited to go and watch the effort. Anyone not paying that much will only get to hear what is happening after the event. or from other internet posters when they are there.
    Mr Oasis has already said they don't want crowds there.
    But I will state again, the ring is a big place and there are many viewing areas, so other viper fans could be able to watch without trying to get in on the pit action and VIP Hospitality.
    Try to think of it this way, What's your favorite football team? Whether they win or lose you are a fan and will support them. some fans are prepared to travel to watch the team, they may not have the best seats but are still prepared to travel,

    So some of us here have asked when the match is going to be played so we could watch from another part of the track and the Team is not saying.

    There are German/Dutch/French/English/Belgium fans that would have just liked to spectate, had our own social gathering and wish the Team well.
    Where the hell is the harm in that? Sadly it is plain that they do not want us there!

    Im going to get into personal insults, I love my Club and Always try to be helpful with How to guides and help fellow owners with problems on their cars. Coming together is what its supposed to be all about isnt it?

    Im now done with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy 18 View Post
    You need to read the post again, I know it's nothing to do with Dodge!

    My Point is fans and owners have helped fund this. This Club also got behind the effort and help support this.
    If you paid 10k + You were invited to go and watch the effort. Anyone not paying that much will only get to hear what is happening after the event. or from other internet posters when they are there.
    Mr Oasis has already said they don't want crowds there.
    But I will state again, the ring is a big place and there are many viewing areas, so other viper fans could be able to watch without trying to get in on the pit action and VIP Hospitality.
    Try to think of it this way, What's your favorite football team? Whether they win or lose you are a fan and will support them. some fans are prepared to travel to watch the team, they may not have the best seats but are still prepared to travel,

    So some of us here have asked when the match is going to be played so we could watch from another part of the track and the Team is not saying.

    There are German/Dutch/French/English/Belgium fans that would have just liked to spectate, had our own social gathering and wish the Team well.
    Where the hell is the harm in that? Sadly it is plain that they do not want us there!

    Im going to get into personal insults, I love my Club and Always try to be helpful with How to guides and help fellow owners with problems on their cars. Coming together is what its supposed to be all about isnt it?

    Im now done with this.
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    Mark sorry if you felt I came off rude. I apologize. I see where you are coming from. However I still disagree. Event planning is a giant undertaking on many levels let alone this level. I plan massive events in our New England club every year. And every event ends up being spectacular with many happy members. Russ laid out the rules in the beginning on attending the event. That's the bottom line. He has not changed anything.

    "Try to think of it this way, What's your favorite football team? - the Patriots
    Whether they win or lose you are a fan and will support them. - yes
    some fans are prepared to travel to watch the team - i have
    they may not have the best seats but are still prepared to travel,- and you can buy a ticket no questions asked from the other stadium no problem, that was not an option on this event.

    So some of us here have asked when the match is going to be played so we could watch from another part of the track and the Team is not saying. - when more information is released we may then know if we can watch it from a live feed or maybe not at all. I dont see the big deal. MAybe they dont have exact specifics on the date yet, there might be lots of other factors Russ doesn't care to spend his time explaining to us. Give the guy a break. Thanks to him this is even happening. I know when I was president of the New England club i put in a solid 15-20 hrs a week running it on top of my day job.

    I dont blame them for not wanting other people there. Im sure there are many other factors. Maybe they want clean video as I am sure the run is going to be professionally recorded. You can never know whats going to happen when you post information on a public forum. My first year as president i was posting addresses and specifics on this forum, and i had random people coming to my lobster roll event, eating the lobster rolls, bringing their friends. We had mustang clubs meeting us at our meeting points for club activities.....

    Coming together is what its all about. I believe in building friendships and good relationships, then more members come to events. But for the time being give Russ a break. He is doing an incrediable thing here and has put in countless hours I can only imagine. The guy should be praised on a daily basis for doing this, not badgered for minimal information.

    Martin -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy 18 View Post
    You need to read the post again, I know it's nothing to do with Dodge!

    My Point is fans and owners have helped fund this. This Club also got behind the effort and help support this.
    If you paid 10k + You were invited to go and watch the effort. Anyone not paying that much will only get to hear what is happening after the event. or from other internet posters when they are there.
    Mr Oasis has already said they don't want crowds there.
    But I will state again, the ring is a big place and there are many viewing areas, so other viper fans could be able to watch without trying to get in on the pit action and VIP Hospitality.
    Try to think of it this way, What's your favorite football team? Whether they win or lose you are a fan and will support them. some fans are prepared to travel to watch the team, they may not have the best seats but are still prepared to travel,

    So some of us here have asked when the match is going to be played so we could watch from another part of the track and the Team is not saying.

    There are German/Dutch/French/English/Belgium fans that would have just liked to spectate, had our own social gathering and wish the Team well.
    Where the hell is the harm in that? Sadly it is plain that they do not want us there!

    Im going to get into personal insults, I love my Club and Always try to be helpful with How to guides and help fellow owners with problems on their cars. Coming together is what its supposed to be all about isnt it?

    Im now done with this.
    Sincerely
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    Vice President.
    The way you're acting in this thread makes the last paragraph of your novel irrelevant. Glad to hear you are done posting in this thread because your negativity isn't needed.

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    Hope it's not because the lap times were so bad. Yikes. Haha.

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    Guys today is the final day for taking any more contributions for the ring run. I think it'll be in the next few days as there won't be more contributions and I'm sure that Russ will update all of us. Also there is a dedicated FB page for the run that will be updated.

    Yousif

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTSilver View Post
    Guys today is the final day for taking any more contributions for the ring run. I think it'll be in the next few days as there won't be more contributions and I'm sure that Russ will update all of us. Also there is a dedicated FB page for the run that will be updated.

    Yousif
    I can only speak for myself but, I am not a Facebook fan or member. I contributed to the effort and all I expect is for someone involved with the project to keep me informed of the progress and dates. I am not seeing that happen. There seems to be a lot of speculation and little facts. I'm just disappointed at the way this is progressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy 18 View Post
    Goes to show what they think of the Viper community! Happy to take money but no feedback for the fans!
    You remind me of the customers i deal with at work and more so my wife with this type of comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasram View Post
    You remind me of the customers i deal with at work and more so my wife with this type of comment
    Well mate, I'm a paid up member here and I have also contributed to the record attempt twice.

    So i think that shows some dedication to the cause.
    You have yourself a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasram View Post
    You remind me of the customers i deal with at work and more so my wife with this type of comment
    NAILED IT about the wife!

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    I think that one issue is that these guys are probably more of the type that don't get on the forums and facebook and internet every day looking for information to consume. Therefore, they don't understand how "hungry" the audience is. They aren't entertainers like those in the news media who report every step and utterance. Plus, if they are in-country, they are probably busy !!!

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    I would agree with this...

    Quote Originally Posted by AZTVR View Post
    I think that one issue is that these guys are probably more of the type that don't get on the forums and facebook and internet every day looking for information to consume. Therefore, they don't understand how "hungry" the audience is. They aren't entertainers like those in the news media who report every step and utterance. Plus, if they are in-country, they are probably busy !!!

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    Cool

    Let's do it like the Brits from 'SmallBritain'.
    Sit back and have a tea or two.
    Wait till the result shows up.
    + or -.
    Who knows!
    Man up.IMAG0251.jpgThat's how I do it till the time will be published... :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperGTS View Post
    Let's do it like the Brits from 'SmallBritain'.
    Sit back and have a tea or two.
    Wait till the result shows up.
    + or -.
    Who knows!
    Man up.IMAG0251.jpgThat's how I do it till the time will be published... :-)
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    yes.

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    This was posted from the Official Press Release thread....if I'm reading it correctly J. Dophin will be sending out updates, etc via Facebook. Lets hope this is true as it would be very exciting to follow along. Appears he works for Prefix. See post #88
    https://driveviper.com/forums/thread...ing-ACRs/page4

    While at the Nurburgring, I will be shooting a lot of video and photos, sending regular updates, and posting on Facebook LIVE to show everyone some of the "Behind the scenes" stuff. Next week I will send out a notice as to how to make sure everyone who is interested has access to the posts. Everyone at PREFIX is very proud to be part of this effort.

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