OT Corvette Z06 Owners Hit GM With Class Action Lawsuit Because The Car Is So Bad

[ek1]

Whoops......

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/corvet...-be-1796070293

Sure took Corvette guys long enough to stand up to GM's bullshit. Strangely, not a single C7 Z06 owner I met at the track admitted to their car overheating. "Never went into limp mode" they said...

And to think....I was negotiating with 2 Chevy dealers to buy one right before ACR was announced. Scary.

[One Viper Bite]

Good for them.

Not to open Pandora's box, but, we do have that whole spun bearing thing to worry about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[slowhatch]

[str5010]

I've spoken with a few at the track that had the issue. I also managed to be at the track a few times in the past to witness C6 ZO6 engine hardware failures. Guess I'm back luck for Vette owners.

[Murpowa]

So, regarding the latest generations

Z06:
Cooling system/overheating
Transmission lockup

vs

Viper:
Leaking shocks
Differential whine
Spun bearings/Oil consumption
Kumho tire blow outs
Window regulators
Rear defroster

Probably missing a few items for either category, but if 'they' felt the need to file for class action...

[slowhatch]

So, regarding the latest generations

Z06:
Cooling system/overheating
Transmission lockup

vs

Viper:
Leaking shocks
Differential whine
Spun bearings/Oil consumption
Window regulators
Rear defroster

Probably missing a few items for either category, but if 'they' felt the need to file for class action...

You completely misunderstand the claims in the lawsuit.

[99Vipers]

Whoops......

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/corvet...-be-1796070293

Sure took Corvette guys long enough to stand up to GM's bullshit. Strangely, not a single C7 Z06 owner I met at the track admitted to their car overheating. "Never went into limp mode" they said...

And to think....I was negotiating with 2 Chevy dealers to buy one right before ACR was announced. Scary.

Scary,lol....Viper owners only have to worry about engines self destructing , rear windows blowing out,differentials destroying themselves,doors opening involuntary,hood ducting flying off,alarm systems going off for no reason,etc,etc,etc

[ek1]

Good for them.

Not to open Pandora's box, but, we do have that whole spun bearing thing to worry about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yes, and don't forget exploding rear windows, window regulators that fall apart, etc. That's all true...BUT....imagine buying a TRACK CAR and discovering it can not do a SINGLE 20-min track session without going into limp mode. Then imagine going to GM and being told to suck wind.

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You completely misunderstand the claims in the lawsuit.

Thank you!

[Murpowa]

You completely misunderstand the claims in the lawsuit.

Could several of those issues listed for the viper not influence performance at the track or inability to track the car?

So, then what am I misunderstanding?

[ek1]

Could several of those issues listed for the viper not influence performance at the track or inability to track the car?

So, then what am I misunderstanding?

You are misunderstanding pretty much the entire issue. Both C7s and Vipers are great cars. Both have defects. Difference is - all of the Viper issues you listed are one-time defects fixed under warranty without as much as a peep from FCA. On the other hand, GM _STILL_ did not officially acknowledge the overheating issue (although they made some modifications for 2017), so now all the people that put their trust and hard earned money into a Z06 product are screwed. You can only imagine the time all those owners wasted trying to fight with GM to fix their cars. Not to mention money wasted on track events that they could not fully participate in. Insane. I hope this lawsuit forces GM to do a buyback program or to fix the cooling issues for good.

[Murpowa]

Difference is - all of the Viper issues you listed are one-time defects fixed under warranty without as much as a peep from FCA.

Disagree with the accuracy of that statement.

Nonetheless, my original point was that viper owners seemingly have it 'worse' then Vette owners but aren't crying uncle

[ek1]

Disagree with the accuracy of that statement.

Nonetheless, my original point was that viper owners seemingly have it 'worse' then Vette owners but aren't crying uncle

I dont know, man....if you ask me, it doesn't get much worse than buying a track car and discovering you can't actually track it, and there is not a damn thing you can do about it (except getting rid of it and taking a huge haircut in a process).

[str5010]

Two guys were shopping for high speed ocean transport ships. One guy bought ship A. His ship has peeling paint, a wonky tachometer and a strange sound coming from the hull, but his cargo made it across the ocean and set a crossing record in the process. He even went back across the ocean for another load.

The other guy bought ship B. His ship sank 15 minutes into the trip and his jean shorts got wet.

Extreme but there it is.

[Murpowa]

^^ lmao, perfect

[swexlin]

Two guys were shopping for high speed ocean transport ships. One guy bought ship A. His ship has peeling paint, a wonky tachometer and a strange sound coming from the hull, but his cargo made it across the ocean and set a crossing record in the process. He even went back across the ocean for another load.

The other guy bought ship B. His ship sank 15 minutes into the trip and his jean shorts got wet.

Extreme but there it is.

Sean, you win the internet today! "Jean shorts"!!!! Love it!

[ACRucrazy]

Two guys were shopping for high speed ocean transport ships. One guy bought ship A. His ship has peeling paint, a wonky tachometer and a strange sound coming from the hull, but his cargo made it across the ocean and set a crossing record in the process. He even went back across the ocean for another load.

The other guy bought ship B. His ship sank 15 minutes into the trip and his jean shorts got wet.

Extreme but there it is.

I laughed.

[One Viper Bite]

Two guys were shopping for high speed ocean transport ships. One guy bought ship A. His ship has peeling paint, a wonky tachometer and a strange sound coming from the hull, but his cargo made it across the ocean and set a crossing record in the process. He even went back across the ocean for another load.

The other guy bought ship B. His ship sank 15 minutes into the trip and his jean shorts got wet.

Extreme but there it is.

I'm in 100% in agreement that the Z06 issue is not the same as our issue (I'm not highlighting all the other dumb stuff because I don't care about those).

But how about this scenario:

Two guys were shopping for high speed ocean transport ships.

One guy bought ship B. His ship sank 15 minutes into the trip and his jean shorts got wet.

The other guy bought ship A. His ship has peeling paint, a wonky tachometer and a strange sound coming from the hull, but his cargo made it across the ocean and set a crossing record in the process. He even went back across the ocean for another load. However, on one of his consecutive trips, his ship spontaneously exploded. The ship manufacturer later told him his ship exploded because he brought his dog onboard the ship and that he was responsible.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm gonna pick ship A every single time, but it doesn't mean I shouldn't try and get the manufacturer of ship A to do something other than give me the exact same ship and hope it doesn't explode on me again.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[swexlin]

I'm in 100% in agreement that the Z06 issue is not the same as our issue (I'm not highlighting all the other dumb stuff because I don't care about those).

But how about this scenario:

Two guys were shopping for high speed ocean transport ships.

One guy bought ship B. His ship sank 15 minutes into the trip and his jean shorts got wet.

The other guy bought ship A. His ship has peeling paint, a wonky tachometer and a strange sound coming from the hull, but his cargo made it across the ocean and set a crossing record in the process. He even went back across the ocean for another load. However, on one of his consecutive trips, his ship spontaneously exploded. The ship manufacturer later told him his ship exploded because he brought his dog onboard the ship and that he was responsible.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm gonna pick ship A every single time, but it doesn't mean I shouldn't try and get the manufacturer of ship A to do something other than give me the exact same ship and hope it doesn't explode on me again.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Very good as well!

[AZTVR]

I'm in 100% in agreement that the Z06 issue is not the same as our issue (I'm not highlighting all the other dumb stuff because I don't care about those).

But how about this scenario:

Two guys were shopping for high speed ocean transport ships.

One guy bought ship B. His ship sank 15 minutes into the trip and his jean shorts got wet.

The other guy bought ship A. His ship has peeling paint, a wonky tachometer and a strange sound coming from the hull, but his cargo made it across the ocean and set a crossing record in the process. He even went back across the ocean for another load. However, on one of his consecutive trips, his ship spontaneously exploded. The ship manufacturer later told him his ship exploded because he brought his dog onboard the ship and that he was responsible.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm gonna pick ship A every single time, but it doesn't mean I shouldn't try and get the manufacturer of ship A to do something other than give me the exact same ship and hope it doesn't explode on me again.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I thought that the manufacturer of ship A bought back the ship from the third owner even though the ship was abused by the 2nd owner? That seems like a much different scenario than the ship B scenario where the manufacturer repeatedly has said the the product has no defect.

[str5010]

Wait which obedience school did the dog attend?

[Vegaskid]

Very few Gen v engines blow up

Lots of z06 overheat on track

[IndyRon]

Very few Gen v engines blow up

Lots of z06 overheat on track

Possibly...although, I'm not sure anyone has pulled bearings on a Gen 5 and not seen at least moderate dmg to the surfaces, even if the engine hasn't blown.

[ACRucrazy]

Very few Gen v engines blow up

Lots of z06 overheat on track

The overheated z06 can drive home from the track... the spun bearing Vipers can't.

Just saying those with glass rear hatches shouldn't throw stones..

[RdyPlr1]

You are misunderstanding pretty much the entire issue. Both C7s and Vipers are great cars. Both have defects. Difference is - all of the Viper issues you listed are one-time defects fixed under warranty without as much as a peep from FCA. On the other hand, GM _STILL_ did not officially acknowledge the overheating issue (although they made some modifications for 2017), so now all the people that put their trust and hard earned money into a Z06 product are screwed. You can only imagine the time all those owners wasted trying to fight with GM to fix their cars. Not to mention money wasted on track events that they could not fully participate in. Insane. I hope this lawsuit forces GM to do a buyback program or to fix the cooling issues for good.

GM also Failed to acknowledge the valve guide issue in the c6Z as many c6z owners blew their engines at the track. I have personally seen 4 corvettes dump oil while running a session.

[06SRTCoupe]

As others have said, all the issues with the Viper have been fixed, under warranty, without question. The overheating issue with the C7Z has not been addressed by GM and people are SOL. What is even more trouble to me...GM took that car to its proving grounds for countless hours of tests under extreme track conditions. How many times did their car go into limp mode? Everyone here knows that HAD to happen a bunch. The notion, backed by a lot of supporting evidence, that they simply ignored the problem and put the car into production is, at the very least, troubling.

GM needs to do the right thing and collaborate with some top performance shops, engineers, etc, and make it right for the people who own C7Z's...