Unsafe wheel design, crappy iForged customer service

[Viper Specialty]

I couldn't disagree more. The correct example your looking for would be buying an RT10 and getting wet with the TOP ON. These wheels were designed to operate on the road and if there is an issue that impacts their proper use on the road it needs to be disclosed. Is there a disclaimer on their website stating the issue? Regardless if it affects all reverse mount styles if it is a KNOWN issue it needs to be disclosed. Why don't they disclose it? Well people would hesitate to buy a set of wheels that can cause you to wreck in rain and it would cost them sales. I can tell you if I sold a product that did not operate as intended (no wheels are intended to operate with a wobble), then the products deficiency should be recalled and corrected. Now if the disclaimer is clearly put out then this is a non issue. I have been around these cars for a while and I have never heard of such an issue until this thread.

I am sorry we don't see eye to eye on this, but I think NineBall nailed it yet again above, and I still think my analogy holds water... no pun intended

It is not like if you drive on these wheels in the rain, your car suddenly takes off into a tree and all of the wheels fall off. The wobble will start, and then get progressively worse as you increase speed. This is a high speed problem only, not something that would occur at less than highway speeds. If someone is crazy enough to try and go faster when their car isn't driving correctly, then it is no surprise if they lose control. If you simply slow down a bit, the wobble stops. Even if you have NO IDEA what is happening, this should be a self explanatory solution. If all of your wheel weights fell off tomorrow, and you had a nasty wobble at 60 that gets worse at 65... would you keep going to try out 70? No, you wouldn't. You would slow down until it subsided then keep going.

I really hate to point fingers, but the fact is while this in an "annoyance", the only time it will cause someone to wreck, is if they do something stupid such as try to go faster than prudent for the conditions. This is no different than continuing to increase speed when your car is giving early signs of hydroplaning- you slow down, not speed up. If you speed up, you cannot be surprised or blame the tires for hydroplaning if you lose control; you should blame yourself for operating outside of safe conditions. Honestly, that example is even more forgiving than this one, as you can hydroplane with no warning if you hit deeper water unexpectedly. The condition being discussed here gives PLENTY of warning in every circumstance before it becomes an actual issue instead of just an annoyance.

I do realize that many people have never been told about this, and some may not know, but downsides are often associated with aftermarket components, which may or may not affect you. I can think of DOZENS of examples in the Viper market which are unsafe for the vehicle, engine, etc- and they are not marketed to include any possible downsides in their descriptions, as yes, people may think twice about purchasing. The aftermarket serves a particular market segment, and designs products to work within that general market segment. As soon as someone uses the products outside of the "norm" of intended usage, there is the potential for issues.

Again, in no way am I dismissing the manufacturers lack of a black-and-white notification about which wheels should be used for what purpose.