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    ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ Everything Venom V say above!!! ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑

    You don't want your roof caving in is you are using harnesses, your neck will be broken for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Vipers View Post
    You rolled the car on the roof and the factory bar held up? How bad was the crash? Do you have pics? How many times did the car roll?

    Thanks!
    no pics, several times cartwheel/ pretty bad deal. gen 4 car/ the roll bar definatly saved me / to what exstent I don't know/ but the front a pillars were collapsed a few inches
    Last edited by bluesrt; 05-09-2017 at 01:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesrt View Post
    no pics, several times cartwheel/ pretty bad deal. gen 4 car/ the roll bar definatly saved me / to what exstent I don't know/ but the front a pillars were collapsed a few inches
    Holy crap Blue! That's insane. Glad you were ok.

    I've rolled two vehicles on the street, one an SUV, the other a pickup truck. The roofs completely collapsed on both occasions. The pickup truck was a slow speed rollover, and that factory rollover protection that all cars are tested for didn't help much at all. As Arizona says, with a harness your neck and head are vulnerable because your body can't pivot down as the roof caves in. I'm sure the factory rollbar is helpful, but I want as much protection as I can get.

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    yep big time/ I got a voodoo coming,i will be doing what you have

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    Just out of interest I wonder how many ACR's/Gen V's that are used on track have had this installed?

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    not many from what I see/ very few

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    Ross does great work. He is also the SCCA champion in a Viper Comp Coupe. The factory support bar does protect from forward and back forces, so it could easily be pushed one way or the other.
    Adding the rollbar will be safer, plus it will stiffen up the car as the rear mounts go into the rear shock towers.

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    How hard would it be to have it color matched to the car?

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    cant find his site anywhere to buy one

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Vipers View Post
    How hard would it be to have it color matched to the car?
    About as hard as it would be to color match a body panel to the car?

    Not hard. Probably even easier as it won't be flush against another panel of the same color.

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    If anyone needs Ross Murray's contact info, PM me.

    He does custom colors

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    Nobody should be running with harnesses without s cage and or reinforced roll hoops.. If you flop it over on her lid, your head has no where to go, you can't get away from the ceiling. I received my rear cage/hoop last week and am having it paint matched before install.

    Quote Originally Posted by VENOM V View Post
    Guys,

    I had a Mustang race car that had an SCCA approved full cage, and true this roll bar is no cage and doesn't protect against all types of impacts.

    It is, however, very functional and significantly improves the safety in the event of a rollover as compared to just the factory bar. The roll bar is extremely rigid, the tubes are short in length and well designed. They attach directly to the beefy bulkhead directly behind the seats, this is the bulkhead that the six point harness mounts to. Because the tubes are short, they are not going to buckle or yield as easily as longer tubes would. Plus, it literally touches the headliner, it is that perfect of a fit.

    Most of the tracks around here see speeds over 140 mph, cars can get pretty mangled and roofs collapse in wrecks at speeds a lot lower than that. With a six-point harness and a Necksgen like I use, or HANS device, I think this bar is a must.

    And although my ACR is 90% track use, I drive it to and from the track on occasion, or to club events. That means a full cage is ruled out for me and probably most everyone on this forum, for obvious reasons. A quality roll bar such as this is the best solution for a street/track Viper.

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    Not to be put a damper on the exhilaration of maxing out a high speed turn, cresting Laguna Seca's corkscrew and getting it just right, or hitting excess of 130+mph at Thunderhill and rolling perfectly through turn 1, or riding the edge of tire grip in every turn, but we all take risks. We hope to be in a controlled environment where the chance of rolling is highly unlikely. However, there are unforeseen situations: mechanical such as a brake problem, blowout or swaybar link breaking; cresting a blind hill going off track to avoid a stranded car mid-track, spinning out due to a fluid spill and getting hit by another car...in a normal situation these wouldn't cause a rollover situation. Now, what if you are at 100-130+mph or in the middle of a high speed turn, where once you're off track the run off is in the dirt, not smooth, and before you can slow the car down it gets sideways, pitching you into a roll.... I would rather be strapped into a 6pt harness and have a rollbar above my head!

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    So....does Ross have an email address or something? Having a hard time finding him online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan cragin View Post
    thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Vipers View Post
    You rolled the car on the roof and the factory bar held up? How bad was the crash? Do you have pics? How many times did the car roll?

    Thanks!
    I'd like to know as well. I also believe the factory roll bar provides adequate rollover protection, so I've been holding out on installing the one that OP has.

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    So, you are the guy who beat me to that awesome purchase! I just missed out on getting this roll bar for my car...


 
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