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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJon View Post
    I agree. It has to not only have great performance...but it has to be a drop dead knockout design. The less it resembles the ole clown-shoe the better.
    New design for the new decade.
    Not sure I agree with that, look at the Challenger, Camaro and the Mustang. Old body design with new technology. What if they could make the Gen II slightly more advanced looking? Throw all of the new technology in it to make it a track and street weapon. I would definitely be interested.

    IMHO, the later generations although better built with regard to handling, braking, acceleration, with supercar track statistics, didn't generate the same emotional response when I saw them. The clown shoe held its own against the supercar car world when it was introduced. I think when they changed the coupe in '06, the car lost a little of its soul. That's why the older air cooled Porsches, especially the 930 turbo (iconic design), Corvettes, Camaros, Cudas, are worshiped by the car cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Surfer View Post
    Not sure I agree with that, look at the Challenger, Camaro and the Mustang. Old body design with new technology. What if they could make the Gen II slightly more advanced looking? Throw all of the new technology in it to make it a track and street weapon. I would definitely be interested.

    IMHO, the later generations although better built with regard to handling, braking, acceleration, with supercar track statistics, didn't generate the same emotional response when I saw them. The clown shoe held its own against the supercar car world when it was introduced. I think when they changed the coupe in '06, the car lost a little of its soul. That's why the older air cooled Porsches, especially the 930 turbo (iconic design), Corvettes, Camaros, Cudas, are worshiped by the car cult.
    Can't really put Camaro or the Mustang in the category of "Old body design with new technology". This may have rang true about 10 years ago when the big 3 did a throwback to the old design. The Mustang and Camaro now barely have any styling cues from the 60s/early 70s cars. Challenger body still hasn't changed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boosted Motorsports View Post
    Can't really put Camaro or the Mustang in the category of "Old body design with new technology". This may have rang true about 10 years ago when the big 3 did a throwback to the old design. The Mustang and Camaro now barely have any styling cues from the 60s/early 70s cars. Challenger body still hasn't changed...
    Mustang '69 and '15. Definitely a lineage there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Surfer View Post
    What if they could make the Gen II slightly more advanced looking? Throw all of the new technology in it to make it a track and street weapon. I would definitely be interested. .
    They did, it was called the Gen V. Which by the way sold dismally till the discontinuation was announced and would have continued to do so if they were still in production.

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    Hmmm barely! Besides the 3 vertically divided tail lights the rear is quite a bit different and the rear panel is almost on a 45* angle on the new car. Front end looks more like a ford fusion than a mustang.

    Compare the 2005 front end to the 1969



    Also the rear of the 2005 is much more of the same angles of the 1969


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boosted Motorsports View Post
    Hmmm barely! Besides the 3 vertically divided tail lights the rear is quite a bit different and the rear panel is almost on a 45* angle on the new car. Front end looks more like a ford fusion than a mustang.

    Compare the 2005 front end to the 1969



    Also the rear of the 2005 is much more of the same angles of the 1969

    Hey! That was 35 plus years in age difference. I guess a 2020 GTS would be about the same '96 versus '20.
    Last edited by Old Surfer; 06-07-2017 at 12:40 PM.

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    Personally, I much prefer the Gen I/II designs. The concept art for the original RT/10 is pretty incredible, I'd be all for breathing fresh life into those concepts IMG_6746.jpg IMG_6745.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boosted Motorsports View Post
    Food for thought:

    A lot of people always compare the Viper to be a competitor to the Vette and that the Viper never had the same success as the corvette did. But did FCA ever really intend on having even the slightest capacity to pump out the number of cars Chevrolet did for the Corvette? The CAP doesn't seem to be able to pump this kind of volume. Even with the slight surge in sales for the final 2017 they were (and are) having trouble with their ordering system and delays for vehicles. I know there has been a shortage of parts from suppliers but could this plant even accommodate a high volume of production and would FCA would be willing to do what it takes to have a bigger assembly line?
    But a Viper wouldn't be a Viper if it were mass produced. That would take away from the 'specialness' of the car. That's my own humble opinion of course.


 
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