Working out a deal on a 13 GTS

[Jet Slicker]

What a coincidence! I'm flying to Miami on Thursday to pick up an orange TA! Driving it back Friday/Saturday/Sunday just like you are hahaha. It will be an adventure for both of us.
One thing I did to be extra sure about the car was getting the Carfax AND an Autocheck. Not often, but sometimes they will pick up different things than one another. Autocheck picked up an accident on a truck my brother was looking at, and Carfax didn't.

But seriously, with 1890 miles there's not much the car could've got into. Hell, there's not much that could be wrong with the car in general. So you should feel pretty confident going to pick it up. The TA i'm picking up has 7500 miles, but even then there's not a ton that could be wrong with it. The car isn't far from new, and yours is basically new. So i'm feeling pretty confident.

Good luck and have an adventure!

[MoparJohn]

In my opinion there is room on that price. I paid 68k for a 2013 GTS last year from a dealer in Texas. Granted mine did not have the track pack and it had 7K miles on it, but I still think there is meat on that bone.

[DZnutz]

In my opinion there is room on that price. I paid 68k for a 2013 GTS last year from a dealer in Texas. Granted mine did not have the track pack and it had 7K miles on it, but I still think there is meat on that bone.

Yes, and now production has ended so there are no more vipers, prices will go up

I cant understand why most people here are all over killing the resale value of their cars... bunch of retards

[Codybby]

Yes, and now production has ended so there are no more vipers, prices will go up

I cant understand why most people here are all over killing the resale value of their cars... bunch of retards

Do you think it's a temporary price hike? It seems they are ~10k higher now versus 6 months ago. I assume once the end of production hype dies they will fall back in line. Or.. it could go the opposite way and stay inflated, nows either the worst time or the best time to buy. What do you think?

[BJG32]

Do you think it's a temporary price hike? It seems they are ~10k higher now versus 6 months ago. I assume once the end of production hype dies they will fall back in line. Or.. it could go the opposite way and stay inflated, nows either the worst time or the best time to buy. What do you think?

You'll get a lot of opinions, but nobody knows. Don't buy if you can't stomach some depreciation.

[Codybby]

What a coincidence! I'm flying to Miami on Thursday to pick up an orange TA! Driving it back Friday/Saturday/Sunday just like you are hahaha. It will be an adventure for both of us.
One thing I did to be extra sure about the car was getting the Carfax AND an Autocheck. Not often, but sometimes they will pick up different things than one another. Autocheck picked up an accident on a truck my brother was looking at, and Carfax didn't.

But seriously, with 1890 miles there's not much the car could've got into. Hell, there's not much that could be wrong with the car in general. So you should feel pretty confident going to pick it up. The TA i'm picking up has 7500 miles, but even then there's not a ton that could be wrong with it. The car isn't far from new, and yours is basically new. So i'm feeling pretty confident.

Good luck and have an adventure!

Haha that's awesome! Congrats on the new ride, I hope you enjoy the drive home.

[Codybby]

You'll get a lot of opinions, but nobody knows. Don't buy if you can't stomach some depreciation.

I expect some depreciation, but if the 15'+ models break into the 70's it may be worth it to wait.

[MoparJohn]

Yes, and now production has ended so there are no more vipers, prices will go up

I cant understand why most people here are all over killing the resale value of their cars... bunch of retards

Just curious is it retarded or good business to buy something for as low as you can possibly get it? If you plan on holding on to a car for 20 years it really doesn't matter what you experience as depreciation. Every car goes to a low point in its value before it comes back up. We are still on the downward slope of value in Vipers. Yes I own a Viper. Yes I expect depreciation. Do I think the low production numbers will help them hold value and experience less depreciation than other cars. Absolutely. Take away all of your personal feelings and passion towards the Viper. Ask yourself if you can live with the depreciation of the value. Consider that your cost for the fun that this car will provide. If you can handle that loss of money before the value of the car goes up again then purchasing a Viper is right for you.

[AZTVR]

Just curious is it retarded or good business to buy something for as low as you can possibly get it?

I think that he was referring to you pointing out that your car is worth less than what a prospective buyer is willing to pay. It does seem counter intuitive for an owner to try to make sure that the market price is perceived to be as low as possible. As a person that is in the market for a Gen V, I do appreciate what you are trying to do for us buyers, though.

To the OP: You do have a choice to wait a year or two until you find that better deal on the color/option package you want. I know that when I bought my Gen 2, I was in a similar position of seeing those great deals being snatched up quickly and finally paid what was a decent price for cars that are available on the "every day" market.

[Codybby]

I think that he was referring to you pointing out that your car is worth less than what a prospective buyer is willing to pay. It does seem counter intuitive for an owner to try to make sure that the market price is perceived to be as low as possible. As a person that is in the market for a Gen V, I do appreciate what you are trying to do for us buyers, though.

To the OP: You do have a choice to wait a year or two until you find that better deal on the color/option package you want. I know that when I bought my Gen 2, I was in a similar position of seeing those great deals being snatched up quickly and finally paid what was a decent price for cars that are available on the "every day" market.

Thanks for the input, after sleeping on it I'm not so excited now. With so many new vehicles on the horizon and the current viper market being unpredictable I'm thinking about just waiting.

[The_Ruski_Driver]

Sorry but I just put a deposit on that car and I'm flying in this weekend to drive it home.

Just kidding. But imagine I wasn't?? 2k should NOT be a sticking point if you like the car. Point is, if it suits your taste then fly out and drive home! I've driven many cars 1000+ miles home and it's worth it everytime!

Here, let me save you 1k right now. Call them and tell them you'll put a 1k deposit over the phone if they sell it for 76 flat. I've never heard of a dealer not negotiating - hell my 2013 LE was listed at 88k and my first offer was 70.

[DZnutz]

Just curious is it retarded or good business to buy something for as low as you can possibly get it? If you plan on holding on to a car for 20 years it really doesn't matter what you experience as depreciation. Every car goes to a low point in its value before it comes back up. We are still on the downward slope of value in Vipers. Yes I own a Viper. Yes I expect depreciation. Do I think the low production numbers will help them hold value and experience less depreciation than other cars. Absolutely. Take away all of your personal feelings and passion towards the Viper. Ask yourself if you can live with the depreciation of the value. Consider that your cost for the fun that this car will provide. If you can handle that loss of money before the value of the car goes up again then purchasing a Viper is right for you.

If you currently own one of those "somethings" then it is counter-productive at best. I would assume 90% of the people on a Viper forum own a Viper. Its one thing to offer advice, its another to keep directing people to beat the price down over and over again

[AZTVR]

If you currently own one of those "somethings" then it is counter-productive at best. I would assume 90% of the people on a Viper forum own a Viper. Its one thing to offer advice, its another to keep directing people to beat the price down over and over again

His descriptions of his car, as previously posted, certainly are not greatly surprising with a lower valued car; although it seems that he has worked out all of the bugs.

OP: PM sent

[mak1118]

I hope I don't upset anyone but I wouldn't pay $77k for it and if I knew they offered it for less before and they've been sitting on it I would offer them even less then the $75k.

[DZnutz]

I hope I don't upset anyone but I wouldn't pay $77k for it and if I knew they offered it for less before and they've been sitting on it I would offer them even less then the $75k.

Nothing upsetting about your opinion, some people simply have to realize that they cant afford a Gen V

[Codybby]

I'm currently working out a private party deal on a similar car, 14' with 10k miles and no stories. I'm thinking that I can get it for 67-69k, I'm still working out the details. If anyone here has an unlimited carfax/autocheck I'll send you the VIN#

[ViperSRT]

I still do not understand why owners would facilitate this lowering of their own cars value phenomenon. Fire sales I can understand, but trying to drive all sales to the lowest possible denominator is counterproductive. The mantra should be to preserve the value of their car as much as possible. Not buy low and sell even lower.

[mak1118]

I still do not understand why owners would facilitate this lowering of their own cars value phenomenon. Fire sales I can understand, but trying to drive all sales to the lowest possible denominator is counterproductive. The mantra should be to preserve the value of their car as much as possible. Not buy low and sell even lower.

It's just the way it is, people always think their cars are worth more than they are... if they don't move they need to be at a lower price.

[mak1118]

Nothing upsetting about your opinion, some people simply have to realize that they cant afford a Gen V

Sure some people can't afford one but what does that have to do with getting the best price you can? If I was looking at a used viper and it had been priced lower before and on top of that it's been sitting for a while I would have offered much less than $77k, if they don't want it then I can decide if I want to raise my offer or move on and they can decide if they want to miss the sale. A dealer by me was sitting on brand new '15 gt at the end of '15, it listed at $103k I offered him $83k he said no, I raised my offer to $89k, he said no... I walked away and 3 months later he was offering me the car for $82k.

[DZnutz]

Sure some people can't afford one but what does that have to do with getting the best price you can? If I was looking at a used viper and it had been priced lower before and on top of that it's been sitting for a while I would have offered much less than $77k, if they don't want it then I can decide if I want to raise my offer or move on and they can decide if they want to miss the sale. A dealer by me was sitting on brand new '15 gt at the end of '15, it listed at $103k I offered him $83k he said no, I raised my offer to $89k, he said no... I walked away and 3 months later he was offering me the car for $82k.

So you clearly bought the car right?

[ViperSRT]

Bad logic. You have no idea why it was for sale with the first place. Maybe a new Viper on order. Once that need passes the need to price for a quick sale ends. And counting time to sell in the winter is crazy with a summer only car. Hope you do the same with boats and are really unhappy all summer long. If you are waiting for depressed winter prices you may need to wait many months. Good luck. But lowest common denominator support for prices will not come from me (or shouldn't be from any owner).
BTW fair market value is fair for both buyer and seller, not just the buyer.

[mak1118]

So you clearly bought the car right?

No bought a '16 convertible Z06 9/2015 after they turned down my $89k offer and told me I should buy a corvette instead... Figured I would just keep the Z06 and then trade it in for an '18 Viper but then it got discontinued so now I'm stuck with 2 '16s and a '95.

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[ViperSRT]

The end of the Viper has been known for a long time in this community. When you bought a 2016 the writing was already dried so no 2018 then or now.

I suspect Viper prices are in a momentary lull right now as people sell their Gen V or Gen IV to get a 2017. That situation is about to end so sales will be less frequent, with fewer need to sell now situations. You will only be able to pry my hands off the wheel when they are no longer under my control. I suspect many owners will keep this generation much longer than prior gens.

Love the 1995. Purchased one new and wish I kept it.

[mak1118]

Bad logic. You have no idea why it was for sale with the first place. Maybe a new Viper on order. Once that need passes the need to price for a quick sale ends. And counting time to sell in the winter is crazy with a summer only car. Hope you do the same with boats and are really unhappy all summer long. If you are waiting for depressed winter prices you may need to wait many months. Good luck. But lowest common denominator support for prices will not come from me (or shouldn't be from any owner).
BTW fair market value is fair for both buyer and seller, not just the buyer.

The only thing I have to know is how much I am willing to pay for the car and they need to know how much they are willing to sell the car, if we can make a deal that works for both of us then fine, if not fine.
I should also say that I always buy new cars never used, well not for a very long time anyways, I know I'm going to take a big hit as soon as I take possession of that car so I try to take as much of that out as possible.

[mak1118]

The end of the Viper has been known for a long time in this community. When you bought a 2016 the writing was already dried so no 2018 then or now.

I suspect Viper prices are in a momentary lull right now as people sell their Gen V or Gen IV to get a 2017. That situation is about to end so sales will be less frequent, with fewer need to sell now situations. You will only be able to pry my hands off the wheel when they are no longer under my control. I suspect many owners will keep this generation much longer than prior gens.

Love the 1995. Purchased one new and wish I kept it.

I made them the offer for the '15 viper in August of 2015 and I bought the Z06 in September of 2015 and I didn't find out about the viper being discontinued until shortly after that. That's how they offered me it for $82k 3 months later because that's when I found out about the discontinuation. Sent them an e-mail about the car again and I guess they recognized the e-mail address because they called me at the house..
Btw, I love the Z06, great car, glad I bought it... it's my everyday car. Bought the '95 new also, 21,000 miles never been in the rain....told my wife I would sell it if I bought the '16 viper but when I put it up for sale I got 4 offers but I couldn't sell it... got attached.