It s always a mustang

[ViperSmith]

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Well, you'd think so. oof! be safe.

[swexlin]

Is this anyone on this forum?

I hope they are OK. I had a little traction slippage myself tonight. Leaving the first Pike Creek cruise of the season - temp 48, and when the light turned green, I didn't think I got on it any more than normal, but the rear end shimmied a bit as I shifted into 2nd - but it composed itself again. But for about 1 second, I puckered.....those Corsas were still cold.

[J TNT]

This happens more then some realize, even to Viper owners.

[Vipes]

run flats?

[Wizness]

run flats?

More like trying to be a showoff and failing bad...hope it was worth it

[swexlin]

As I mentioned above, can happen. I was just sitting at a light, it changed, and only forgot for an instant that my tires weren't warm yet. Luckily as I mentioned above, I didn't hit it really hard, but just hard enough that she broke loose for an second - which is all it can take. I wasn't even going that fast, so I lifted throttle, and she settled back. Maybe that's why I normally drive like a grandma, LOL!

Looks like he really did hit it too hard, and that's all it takes.

[ViperSmith]

As I mentioned above, can happen. I was just sitting at a light, it changed, and only forgot for an instant that my tires weren't warm yet. Luckily as I mentioned above, I didn't hit it really hard, but just hard enough that she broke loose for an second - which is all it can take. I wasn't even going that fast, so I lifted throttle, and she settled back. Maybe that's why I normally drive like a grandma, LOL!

Looks like he really did hit it too hard, and that's all it takes.

Did you have ESC off? ESC always "hops" the wheel for me if I punch it in a straight line and cold tires. ESC off well thats another story.

[swexlin]

Did you have ESC off? ESC always "hops" the wheel for me if I punch it in a straight line and cold tires. ESC off well thats another story.

Harold, ESC is ALWAYS on in this car. Perhaps that's what actually did it, and then corrected it, because after my initial pucker, I was surprised at how it immediately composed itself. Tires were cold, I had been sitting at 2 lights, after leaving the shopping center. In my 2 1/2 years of ownership, only had this happen once before, and that was on a damp road, on a warm summer day.

I actually like the way these Corsas handle in the cold (contrary to popular opinion) I have had them out with temps in the 20s, and, while being very careful, have never had an issue.

[serpent]

That could have ended baaad. Is the driver okay? Looks like his side hit those trees. I shit you not, the frame must be strong as fuck, trees usually win when it comes to cars crashing into them.

Forgot to add, that must have been a previous mustang owner.

[Vipes]

You guys really never let the rear end break loose? That's my favorite part of a rwd car!

[Fatboy 18]

You guys really never let the rear end break loose? That's my favorite part of a rwd car!

Mine too

What i don't understand with this is that there seems to be no attempt at breaking? I am no expert but i have found that trying to put the power down and drive through a power slide never works! If the car starts to slide away from you its both feet in fast and stop the car.
Many of us have done stuff like this (not just in vipers) its a real shame the guy lost the car.

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I love how it's always an ACR in everyone's eyes. Shit happens quick.

Sadly , yes you're right.

[outnumbered]

Mine too

What i don't understand with this is that there seems to be no attempt at breaking? I am no expert but i have found that trying to put the power down and drive through a power slide never works! If the car starts to slide away from you its both feet in fast and stop the car.
Many of us have done stuff like this (not just in vipers) its a real shame the guy lost the car.

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Sadly , yes you're right.

I don't think the brakes will work with the rate of speed he had, along with massively over correcting. He is definitely an inexperienced driver. Makes be cringe just watching it.

[Angleiron]

Mine too

What i don't understand with this is that there seems to be no attempt at breaking?

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Oh...there was PLENTY of breaking. As for braking...maybe not so much

[Fatboy 18]

Oh...there was PLENTY of breaking. As for braking...maybe not so much

bloody google spell check!

[Vprbite]

Mine too

What i don't understand with this is that there seems to be no attempt at breaking? I am no expert but i have found that trying to put the power down and drive through a power slide never works! If the car starts to slide away from you its both feet in fast and stop the car.
Many of us have done stuff like this (not just in vipers) its a real shame the guy lost the car.

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Sadly , yes you're right.

Braking doesn't alway help. If the back end is coming out at speed and you brake you can pitch the car forward and make that rear end spin even more.

This kind of stuff is why these events get cancelled. The potential for hurt people and damaged property just gets too high. I'm glad everyone was ok. We've all stepped on it and had it start to slide out on us. Before I put my new tires on, mine broke loose accelerating on a freeway on ramp. Auto cross is a good place to learn what it feels like to lose control in a safe setting. Fun too.

Serpent, yes the frames are very strong. I was told 1,000lbs of pressure to move the frame one inch.

[swexlin]

You guys really never let the rear end break loose? That's my favorite part of a rwd car!

Perhaps, but I always approach every time I leave hard from a stop that it "might" which, so I'm always sorta always ready. But this once caught me a little by surprise. Since I wasn't much, recovery was quick, but "wasn't much" is sometimes "plenty" in a Viper, which is sadly demonstrated in the video.

Has a similar thing happen in my Gen 3 once, when I missed a shift. It was worse, but I recovered (don't know how!!) and that car had no ESC.

[Camfab]

I love how it's always an ACR in everyone's eyes. Shit happens quick.

[swexlin]

Yep, he certainly did over-correct.

[Fatboy 18]

So in the aftermath of something like that, what normally happens? Gets busted by Five 0 for reckless driving? Licence suspended? Heavy court costs? Insurance?

Hope the guy is OK, have to say looking at it again, he was hard on the pedal

[IndyRon]

I've found the best way to prevent those kind of things is to make a habit of kicking the tail out and spinning the tires to learn the cars behavior. I need every HP I have. We aren't corvette owners.

[ViperPete]

These cars are so predictable. How do people lose control???

My wife's 05 Mustang GT on the other hand... it really is a handful which is strange to me as having 1/2 the power.

[swexlin]

These cars are so predictable. How do people lose control???

My wife's 05 Mustang GT on the other hand... it really is a handful which is strange to me as having 1/2 the power.

Gotta disagree a bit there Pete. The Gen 5, while MUCH more composed than my 2003, can still step out, as my experience last night proved. Just a moment, or a hair too much throttle. But as I said above, I usually anticipate that it MAY step out....doesn't make it any less puckering!

[J TNT]

It looks like too much bravado and not enough talent . Definitely bad judgement on a public road .

[TCurtner]

After he realized he had over powered the car and was sliding right, to keep from getting near some bystanders on the right bank he overcompensated by actually steering into the 'mistake' and giving it a bit more so as to insure that he would not get close to them knowing that he might trash his car, but at least on the median. What you see is what happened after the dreaded 1 -2 -3 fishtail, on the #3 swing. I don't think he had changed the diff out yet, and being a Gen III , well you know the potential problems with that (not an excuse, but definitely a contributor).

I was there, on the street behind it all...driving sedately as i left as usual, after that event...and got to speak with him later.
He is alive, and well, shaken up and regretful - but a great guy. Had any of us punched it (the dumb part) and then had that combination of physics take place (debris? cool tires? the other car that popped out and went into the fast lane? etc.?)- we might have ended up the same way, driving skills aside.

It absolutely reinforces my long-term philosophy: "Never on the street, only on the track"

[swexlin]

Glad to hear is OK, and had the well being of the bystanders in mind. Mistakes happen. There but for the grace of God go any of us.