A couple nice Stryker Green vipers in Canada for sale GTS and Acr E

[Tylerqb]

ACR E
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/c...ationFlag=true

GTS with track pack and aero
http://www.kijiji.ca/b-cars-trucks/o...004a54a1000054

Not affiliated with sellers. Just some nice cars.

[DZnutz]

Those are some nice prices as well

[ViperPete]

Ive never seen that color in person. I bet its amazing.

[Scott_in_fl]

It must be awesome in person. Although I think I'm leaning a bit towards SSG as a favorite green. I kind of like the gold hue in it. This color screams Christmas a little too much for me (and I love Christmas, just not sure if I would want it on my car).

[GTS21]

I didn't know the GTS had dive planes? They look awesome.

[bluesrt]

aftermarket dive planes,not factory

[TA Two Oh]

Both look amazing!

The ACR Extreme... are those grey cast iron rotors? I guess some people might prefer them but if I was paying $248,000.00 ($220,000.00 + 13 % tax) I'd personally want the Carbon Ceramic rotors.

[SharpMan]

Both look amazing!

The ACR Extreme... are those grey cast iron rotors? I guess some people might prefer them but if I was paying $248,000.00 ($220,000.00 + 13 % tax) I'd personally want the Carbon Ceramic rotors.

In Canada there was some weird thing with the GTC 1-of-1s where you had to order the ceramic brakes on top of the ACR or ACR-E package. I think the ceramics were $11K on their own + $30K for ACR + $7K for extreme + $5K for ACR interior etc...etc...

[Purple Haze]

Love those colors...Trying to win the lottery...

[TA Two Oh]

In Canada there was some weird thing with the GTC 1-of-1s where you had to order the ceramic brakes on top of the ACR or ACR-E package. I think the ceramics were $11K on their own + $30K for ACR + $7K for extreme + $5K for ACR interior etc...etc...

Yes, I'm sure that's correct. All due to our weak currency. Sure sucks!
When I ordered my car, US and Canadian pricing was identical, as was the level of equipment. By the time my car landed, there had been three price increases, but my dealer was really good to me and we worked it out without much pain on my end. About a week later, I think my car would have cost me an additional $30,000.00.

[Murpowa]

Yes, I'm sure that's correct. All due to our weak currency. Sure sucks!
When I ordered my car, US and Canadian pricing was identical, as was the level of equipment. By the time my car landed, there had been three price increases, but my dealer was really good to me and we worked it out without much pain on my end. About a week later, I think my car would have cost me an additional $30,000.00.

What a joke

[SharpMan]

What a joke

The Canadian currency and economy? ;-)

[darbgnik]

The Canadian currency and economy? ;-)

Yup.....

[soltic]

Yes, I'm sure that's correct. All due to our weak currency. Sure sucks!
When I ordered my car, US and Canadian pricing was identical, as was the level of equipment. By the time my car landed, there had been three price increases, but my dealer was really good to me and we worked it out without much pain on my end. About a week later, I think my car would have cost me an additional $30,000.00.

Ummm, I would be wary of any dealer that would jack the cost on you re the exchange on a sold order.

Islington, the one offering the Stryker's has honoured pricing on anything w sold orders to their customers....

Before any taxes etc, 2017 Canuck ACR MSRP Base was $159,995CAN (@ today's exchange rate = $119,695US), US MSRP was $121,395 - Canuck's are still ahead of the game by $1,700US if I am not mistaken on base ACR.

Rod

[DZnutz]

Yes, I'm sure that's correct. All due to our weak currency. Sure sucks!
When I ordered my car, US and Canadian pricing was identical, as was the level of equipment. By the time my car landed, there had been three price increases, but my dealer was really good to me and we worked it out without much pain on my end. About a week later, I think my car would have cost me an additional $30,000.00.

Something doesnt add up here... If you had a purchase agreement then the price is the price and there's a date associated to that price/agreement. It cannot change afterwards

I recall the CAD price was $85K in the beginning of 2015... then $86K, then $88K and finally $93K, all over the span of a couple months. This is for the base SRT. order banks closed in April 2015. For the 2016 model year the SRT trim level disappeared for Canada and the cost of entry into a GTC started at $115,500.

[TA Two Oh]

Ummm, I would be wary of any dealer that would jack the cost on you re the exchange on a sold order.

Islington, the one offering the Stryker's has honoured pricing on anything w sold orders to their customers....

Before any taxes etc, 2017 Canuck ACR MSRP Base was $159,995CAN (@ today's exchange rate = $119,695US), US MSRP was $121,395 - Canuck's are still ahead of the game by $1,700US if I am not mistaken on base ACR.

Rod

I agree with you; in many cases, Canadian vehicles are cheaper than anywhere else right now as their prices haven't risen enough to compensate for the decline in our dollar. There's a reason that so many Canadian vehicles are being imported into the US right now. But that's a separate issue from what happened to my order.

My car took 9 months to arrive and during that time period it's price increased 3 times thanks to our dollar tanking. Those price increases had absolutely nothing to do with the dealership; as you know, FCA Canada sets both the MSRP and the dealer cost. I watch this stuff very carefully partly because that's my personality, and also because this was a major purchase for me. With my vehicle, by the time my dealer paid for it, they had to pay -from memory- about $13,000.00 more than it would have cost them at the time I placed the order. And it's MSRP got bumped by a similar amount... I have the window sticker as proof of that. I didn't expect my dealer to eat that, nor did I blame FCA Canada for jacking up the price due to currency fluctuations that are plainly beyond their control. In this situation, I can't imagine Islington or any other dealer offering to absorb all price increases over long time frames such as mine. I still got an amazing deal and am extremely happy with how things unfolded. Especially when I see the current prices on new Canadian Vipers! I hope that explains how things unfolded and that it makes sense. There was absolutely no funny stuff going on with my dealer... far from it. I happened to order right before our currency took a dramatic dive; it was a unique circumstance.

[DZnutz]

Did you have a purchase agreement? The price would be clearly stated there

It looks to me like the Dealer ordered you a car without paper... which I thought was impossible as my window sticker clearly has my name printed on it and the VON also had my name attached to it.

[donk_316]

What Ron says is true. After exchange rates it was cheaper to buy in Canada than buy an American car. Never mind the fees and export jazz.

Looks like that is still true.

[DZnutz]

I agree with you; in many cases, Canadian vehicles are cheaper than anywhere else right now as their prices haven't risen enough to compensate for the decline in our dollar. There's a reason that so many Canadian vehicles are being imported into the US right now. But that's a separate issue from what happened to my order.

My car took 9 months to arrive and during that time period it's price increased 3 times thanks to our dollar tanking. Those price increases had absolutely nothing to do with the dealership; as you know, FCA Canada sets both the MSRP and the dealer cost. I watch this stuff very carefully partly because that's my personality, and also because this was a major purchase for me. With my vehicle, by the time my dealer paid for it, they had to pay -from memory- about $13,000.00 more than it would have cost them at the time I placed the order. And it's MSRP got bumped by a similar amount... I have the window sticker as proof of that. I didn't expect my dealer to eat that, nor did I blame FCA Canada for jacking up the price due to currency fluctuations that are plainly beyond their control. In this situation, I can't imagine Islington or any other dealer offering to absorb all price increases over long time frames such as mine. I still got an amazing deal and am extremely happy with how things unfolded. Especially when I see the current prices on new Canadian Vipers! I hope that explains how things unfolded and that it makes sense. There was absolutely no funny stuff going on with my dealer... far from it. I happened to order right before our currency took a dramatic dive; it was a unique circumstance.

If you paid a penny more for your car than what your purchase agreement stated then you were robbed

[ACRucrazy]

In Canada there was some weird thing with the GTC 1-of-1s where you had to order the ceramic brakes on top of the ACR or ACR-E package. I think the ceramics were $11K on their own + $30K for ACR + $7K for extreme + $5K for ACR interior etc...etc...

The only way to get the carbon brakes for "free" with the GTC 1 of 1 was to order the ACR interior. That would $0 out the brakes. If you ordered anything else other than the ACR interior the carbon brakes had to be paid for.

[98intrigue]

FYI the GTS owner is asking $100k and doesn't want to sell for any less.

[kbench55]

I agree with you; in many cases, Canadian vehicles are cheaper than anywhere else right now as their prices haven't risen enough to compensate for the decline in our dollar. There's a reason that so many Canadian vehicles are being imported into the US right now. But that's a separate issue from what happened to my order.

My car took 9 months to arrive and during that time period it's price increased 3 times thanks to our dollar tanking. Those price increases had absolutely nothing to do with the dealership; as you know, FCA Canada sets both the MSRP and the dealer cost. I watch this stuff very carefully partly because that's my personality, and also because this was a major purchase for me. With my vehicle, by the time my dealer paid for it, they had to pay -from memory- about $13,000.00 more than it would have cost them at the time I placed the order. And it's MSRP got bumped by a similar amount... I have the window sticker as proof of that. I didn't expect my dealer to eat that, nor did I blame FCA Canada for jacking up the price due to currency fluctuations that are plainly beyond their control. In this situation, I can't imagine Islington or any other dealer offering to absorb all price increases over long time frames such as mine. I still got an amazing deal and am extremely happy with how things unfolded. Especially when I see the current prices on new Canadian Vipers! I hope that explains how things unfolded and that it makes sense. There was absolutely no funny stuff going on with my dealer... far from it. I happened to order right before our currency took a dramatic dive; it was a unique circumstance.

If you ordered the vehicle under your name and not a dealer stock order, you should have been price protected. On your VON sheet it would have said price protection and you and your dealer only pays the original VON sheet price. I just ordered a 2017 SRT Grand Cherokee and the day after I ordered it the MSRP went up by $500. I did the paperwork for it today and my price is still the original price before the MSRP increase. On my build sheet it has the following code "3AB Price Protection - Code B" I had the same scenario when I ordered my hellcat. It took 16 months for it to come in and I was price protected right till the day I ordered it. The MSRP had increase by $7,000 by the time it came in.

If your car was a dealer stock order then all price increase would be applicable.

[GasGas]

I agree with you; in many cases, Canadian vehicles are cheaper than anywhere else right now as their prices haven't risen enough to compensate for the decline in our dollar. There's a reason that so many Canadian vehicles are being imported into the US right now. But that's a separate issue from what happened to my order.

My car took 9 months to arrive and during that time period it's price increased 3 times thanks to our dollar tanking. Those price increases had absolutely nothing to do with the dealership; as you know, FCA Canada sets both the MSRP and the dealer cost. I watch this stuff very carefully partly because that's my personality, and also because this was a major purchase for me. With my vehicle, by the time my dealer paid for it, they had to pay -from memory- about $13,000.00 more than it would have cost them at the time I placed the order. And it's MSRP got bumped by a similar amount... I have the window sticker as proof of that. I didn't expect my dealer to eat that, nor did I blame FCA Canada for jacking up the price due to currency fluctuations that are plainly beyond their control. In this situation, I can't imagine Islington or any other dealer offering to absorb all price increases over long time frames such as mine. I still got an amazing deal and am extremely happy with how things unfolded. Especially when I see the current prices on new Canadian Vipers! I hope that explains how things unfolded and that it makes sense. There was absolutely no funny stuff going on with my dealer... far from it. I happened to order right before our currency took a dramatic dive; it was a unique circumstance.

Very understanding of you and it no doubt builds a solid relationship with the dealer for your next limited allocation purchase or outside of warranty repair expense. I also placed Gen. V order when the $85k msrp was launched even though I already had a Hellcat on order. When I finally got my Hellcat VIN it had turned into a 2016 model but factory "price protection" was offered as an option where as there was no price protection offered on the Viper. Eventually I cancelled the Viper order due to the price increases you mention but I was able to get my Hellcat for under 70k.

[SharpMan]

The only way to get the carbon brakes for "free" with the GTC 1 of 1 was to order the ACR interior. That would $0 out the brakes. If you ordered anything else other than the ACR interior the carbon brakes had to be paid for.

I knew there was some angle to it. Couldn't remember...what I do remember is chickening out at $20K extra to choose custom paint as adding it all back in is $20K more than ordering the same ACR as a GTC specced out as one...

[TA Two Oh]

Thanks to all of you for your comments and advice on my deal. The bottom line is that I got an amazing car, at a great price and that I'm really, really happy with it. That's all that matters. And believe me, it was not easy to secure a T/A 2.0 for Canada at that time.

To answer some of your points:
Keep in mind that I'm in Canada and some things are done differently here than in the US. There's less consumer protection. Most provinces don't have Buyback laws and if they do, it's vastly more difficult to get a vehicle bought back than in many US States. FCA only warranties our cars for 3 years; we don't get the 5 year powertrain warranty. And our purchase agreements are different as well. GasGas lives near me and he mentioned that he was able to obtain price protection on his Hellcat but NOT on his Viper order. kbench55 got it on his GC and Hellcat but it doesn't look like he tried to order a Viper. DNutz... yes I did have a Purchase Agreement, with my name on it. I appreciate your concern but no, I do not feel that I got hosed. From my Sales Agreement: Under CONDITIONS OF SALE, clause 11. Future Delivery Conditions it says:
If between the date of this Agreement and the actual date of delivery of the motor vehicle there is a change
a. In taxes imposed by the appropriate taxing authorities with respect to the sale of motor vehicles; or
b. In the price of the motor vehicle charged by the manufacturer,
Then the "Total Cash Sale Price" as described on the front of this agreement shall be adjusted by a corresponding amount.

I signed that contract. If I hadn't, I'd currently have the satisfaction of knowing that I didn't get hosed with a price increase on my car. Of course, I'd also have no car. I guess if I'd done that I could decide to pay twice what I paid to buy the green ACR in the first post. I have no problem with the price of the ACR and I'm sure that they'll get that number or close to it. But I'm very happy that I got my car when I did! And most important of all, I'm ecstatic about my purchase!