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  1. #551
    Quote Originally Posted by ACRSNK View Post
    Not sure about the rest of their ACR's and SE cars, but it looks like they are sticker on the Dealer Edition cars. Guess there's not much demand on those. I never really understood that car. It's one thing if you like the paint scheme, which is not my cup of tea, but Celebrating dealers??? I don't get it.
    I think the idea was to do a SE that only a couple of dealers in the entire country would be able to sell. And that is because they sold the most vipers in its 1/4 century history than anyone else. And what better color scheme than red, white & blue. I ordered it more for the color scheme than for the dealer component personally. Plus the fact that it's numbered, 25th anniversary car, SE, probably final edition. I also liked that there are only 22. I feel as though 100 or more are too many and recall how I thought it was a mistake back in 2013 when they made triple digit launch edition cars. I think the difference with yours will be if it takes back the ring record

  2. #552
    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJon View Post
    Turned that one down, no thanks. Talk about a contrived SE. I had the same car with black center-band which frankly looks better.

    Of course a dealer can charge whatever they want, no one is forced to pay it. But offering MSRP is not exactly coming in with a low ball offer. And maybe, just maybe a little consideration for someone who bought THREE NEW 100K+ ACR's from same dealer when things weren't so rosy in Viper-land. Just a thought.
    Are you looking to buy another ACR?

  3. #553
    Quote Originally Posted by ACRSNK View Post
    Are you looking to buy another ACR?
    Yes but only a new GTS-R. Nothing else. I just refuse to pay any dealer add-on money on principal.

  4. #554
    I too am after a GTS-R but after calling a couple dealers it seems all they want to do is offer $10-20K over MSRP on the new car and $10-20K less on the trade. Right now the greed is strong with the dealers..... I can't compete with those buyers willing to just throw their wallets at the dealers.... Right now getting a GTS-R seems like trying to find the new 911 GT3...

    Is that picture of the VE warehouse recent? If so then my conversation with VE 2 days ago for their GTS-R " that they have just listed" was a total sham.... Unfortunately dealing w/ some dealers right now seems to be like trying to win in Vegas... house always wins.

  5. #555
    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJon View Post
    Yes but only a new GTS-R. Nothing else. I just refuse to pay any dealer add-on money on principal.
    FWIW:
    My offer of $6,500 above MSRP on the GTS-R in a straight cash deal was rejected. I then offered to trade in my Ferrari as the tax credit could possibly ease the pain - never heard back.

  6. #556
    Quote Originally Posted by Cybermig View Post
    I too am after a GTS-R but after calling a couple dealers it seems all they want to do is offer $10-20K over MSRP on the new car and $10-20K less on the trade. Right now the greed is strong with the dealers..... I can't compete with those buyers willing to just throw their wallets at the dealers.... Right now getting a GTS-R seems like trying to find the new 911 GT3...

    Is that picture of the VE warehouse recent? If so then my conversation with VE 2 days ago for their GTS-R " that they have just listed" was a total sham.... Unfortunately dealing w/ some dealers right now seems to be like trying to win in Vegas... house always wins.

    That picture is from July 24th. Cars were dropped the 2nd week of July....IMO the GTS-R or any ACR-E is NOT worth more than the MSRP. Time will tell, but very likely ALL these cars will be worth much less in about 4-5 yrs.
    Last edited by georgiadawgs; 08-02-2017 at 10:05 AM.

  7. #557
    Quote Originally Posted by TIME View Post
    FWIW:
    My offer of $6,500 above MSRP on the GTS-R in a straight cash deal was rejected. I then offered to trade in my Ferrari as the tax credit could possibly ease the pain - never heard back.
    dam!

  8. #558
    Glad I paid msrp and the $15,000.00 manufacturer rebate was put to good use. Perfect timing on every level: last production year, had my trade for 3.5 years, and the coupon was expiring.

  9. #559
    Quote Originally Posted by TIME View Post
    FWIW:
    My offer of $6,500 above MSRP on the GTS-R in a straight cash deal was rejected. I then offered to trade in my Ferrari as the tax credit could possibly ease the pain - never heard back.
    Wow.

  10. #560
    I'm sure they will sell every last GTS-R they have to sell. This is the most iconic Viper ever produced.

    Of course I am saying this because I have one , but I do feel they will sell every last one and even though I struggle with paying over MSRP, there are plenty of people that don't and will gladly do so for this car.

  11. #561
    Quote Originally Posted by TIME View Post
    FWIW:
    My offer of $6,500 above MSRP on the GTS-R in a straight cash deal was rejected. I then offered to trade in my Ferrari as the tax credit could possibly ease the pain - never heard back.
    Clarifying re. my post above: It was NOT Garry Wood Dodge Viper that I was dealing with. I apologize for posting my comments on this thread.

  12. #562
    I just called VE and was told one gtsr is sale pending. The other is 155,340. C'mon viperjon....join the cool kid's club!

  13. #563
    Brad, its the black viper still available ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX BLK View Post
    Brad, its the black viper still available ?
    Afraid not, it's gone now.

    We have 4 remaining, of course no ADM and a killer-fun-exciting-memorable experience. :-)

    This thread has been hijacked! We are happy to see the angle it has taken, (it's no secret if you've shopped VE that they don't like us and they're proud to tell everyone this fact) but can we get back to the intent of the thread?

    Brad

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX BLK View Post
    Brad, its the black viper still available ?
    This car just came available when the buyer told us that he changed his mind!

    blackacr.1.jpgblackacr.2.jpgblackacr.3.jpg

  16. #566
    Who would change their mind in that beauty?!

    Car is beautiful!

  17. #567
    Quote Originally Posted by GerryWoodViper View Post
    This car just came available when the buyer told us that he changed his mind!

    blackacr.1.jpgblackacr.2.jpgblackacr.3.jpg
    Going... going...

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    My math says that the revenue from just a couple of the ADM's on GTS-R's would fund the entire second attempt at the failed 'Ring record.

    Seems they can afford it without having to ask for the hard earned dollars of you folks (again!)? I'd say, if they funded it themselves this time, and not on the backs of those they are charging the ADM to, it would sort of be like an investment in ensuring they sell their remaining inventory.

    Plus, dealer connect shows they've got another 25 on the way that aren't sold. That could pay for the entire thing (retro to the first attempt)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GerryWoodViper View Post
    My math says that the revenue from just a couple of the ADM's on GTS-R's would fund the entire second attempt at the failed 'Ring record.

    Seems they can afford it without having to ask for the hard earned dollars of you folks (again!)? I'd say, if they funded it themselves this time, and not on the backs of those they are charging the ADM to, it would sort of be like an investment in ensuring they sell their remaining inventory.

    Plus, dealer connect shows they've got another 25 on the way that aren't sold. That could pay for the entire thing (retro to the first attempt)?
    I don't have a dog in this fight, but that was low blow and not professional-like at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GerryWoodViper View Post
    My math says that the revenue from just a couple of the ADM's on GTS-R's would fund the entire second attempt at the failed 'Ring record.

    Seems they can afford it without having to ask for the hard earned dollars of you folks (again!)? I'd say, if they funded it themselves this time, and not on the backs of those they are charging the ADM to, it would sort of be like an investment in ensuring they sell their remaining inventory.

    Plus, dealer connect shows they've got another 25 on the way that aren't sold. That could pay for the entire thing (retro to the first attempt)?
    I respectfully disagree with you. I think you posting a response stating I'm unprofessional does gives you a dog in the fight, and I do think that stating the obvious breaks no professional boundaries.

  22. #572
    Quote Originally Posted by 13COBRA View Post
    I don't have a dog in this fight, but that was low blow and not professional-like at all.
    Not at all. Those are just facts and opinions. Anybody is entitled to his/her opinions and this is a forum.

  23. #573
    Quote Originally Posted by GerryWoodViper View Post
    My math says that the revenue from just a couple of the ADM's on GTS-R's would fund the entire second attempt at the failed 'Ring record.

    Seems they can afford it without having to ask for the hard earned dollars of you folks (again!)? I'd say, if they funded it themselves this time, and not on the backs of those they are charging the ADM to, it would sort of be like an investment in ensuring they sell their remaining inventory.

    Plus, dealer connect shows they've got another 25 on the way that aren't sold. That could pay for the entire thing (retro to the first attempt)?

    Agree 100%

  24. #574
    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJon View Post
    Yes but only a new GTS-R. Nothing else. I just refuse to pay any dealer add-on money on principal.
    Agree 100%...I can do it but I will never give away thousands of dollars to someone just for the pleasure of selling me a car. I can live without it and use that $$$$ for several vacations, remodel a home, invest, etc.

  25. #575
    Quote Originally Posted by GerryWoodViper View Post
    "........I do think that stating the obvious breaks no professional boundaries."
    Agreed!


 
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