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    Dodge Viper Sold Out

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...iper-sold-out/



    The Dodge Viper ends production this year. As if that news wasn't bad enough, the entire production run of model-year 2017 Vipers has completely sold out, which means that, unless Dodge performs a miracle, you'll never be able to order a new Viper ever again. We know. We're sad too.

    Per a tweet from Automotive News reporter Richard Truett, FCA design boss (and confirmed Viper die-hard) Ralph Gilles announced today at the Chicago Auto Show that this year's Viper production run is officially sold out. This isn't much of a surprise considering that last year, FCA passenger-car head Tim Kuniskis said it's "really last call" for those who want a new Viper.

    While you can't custom order a new Viper anymore, there are still factory-new examples on dealer lots all around the US. A quick search on Cars.com shows 39 new Vipers for sale at the time of writing, and you can expect more to hit showrooms as dealers receive the 2017 cars they've already ordered. North Carolina dealer Gerry Wood Dodge put in a huge order for 2017 Vipers, and has a number listed for sale on its website.

    When Dodge announced the impending end of the line for the Viper last year, the automaker received a huge influx of new orders, prompting the company to temporarily halt ordering over fears of a parts shortage. Dodge also created a number of special editions as a final sendoff for the sports car, which seems to have stoked demand.

    It's also worth mentioning that there's a small chance the Viper could be revived in the future, but we wouldn't recommend holding your breath. FCA boss Sergio Marchionne said a future Viper could be built on Alfa Romeo's new rear-drive Giorgio platform, which is set to underpin all future Alfas and Maseratis, as well as SUVs from Dodge and Jeep and the next-gen Dodge Challenger and Charger. Still, the Viper seems rather low on FCA's priority list, and as a specialty vehicle with a tiny but dedicated customer base, it hardly has the profit potential of a mainstream SUV or crossover.

    Even with that glimmer of hope, and the fact that you can still find new Vipers on dealer lots, this is a sad day for America's greatest car. There's nothing else like the Viper, and we'll miss it.

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    Well damn

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    just saw that, for those on the fence don't wait and complain later, ACT NOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlknBlu View Post
    just saw that, for those on the fence don't wait and complain later, ACT NOW.

    Bruce
    For those looking for notes on what's left, see our post; http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...-February-2017

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    They'll miss it - but they (and all the other auto mags) will give it the too noisy,cramped, etc treatment when they get a final one to review!

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    Even though I finally got mine after years and years, it's still sad to think of it finally being "done"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleed viper View Post
    Even though I finally got mine after years and years, it's still sad to think of it finally being "done"
    That's exactly how I feel. It has always been in a category on it's own and whether we wanted it compared to Corvettes or not, it was. That comparison pushed both Dodge and Chevy to build better cars. The Vette guys should be equally bummed out because they don't have any direct competition anymore.

    I'm really sad to see it go. I hope it comes back one day.

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    It is awfully sad, even though we all knew it. I had to wait for 25 years before being able to buy one and I'm lucky enough to have realized that dream.
    Whomever disparage the car because it's noisy and not so comfortable just doesn't know what they're missing.

    It's over for the Viper but I take solace in the fact that at least I have one in my garage that I can look at every day and drive every so often

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    On June 24, 2016 when I placed my order I knew it was the right move and now that feeling has been reinforced.

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    Still have some allocation left --- and can do orders still today, just not any ACRs, Stryker Color Cars, Matte Finish paint, or SRT hoods.

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    Glad to have my piece of history tucked away in the garage. Just hope parts aren't too crazy to get!

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    Quote Originally Posted by timberwolf View Post
    Glad to have my piece of history tucked away in the garage. Just hope parts aren't too crazy to get!
    Ive been waiting on a hood for 9 weeks

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    All this chatter on the ACR is great - makes me want to get out and drive some more!

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    Wow options running low...If you want one better get it now prices on the way up everywhere as word gets out...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Pemberton View Post
    Still have some allocation left --- and can do orders still today, just not any ACRs, Stryker Color Cars, Matte Finish paint, or SRT hoods.

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    No ADM with us either , of course.

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    So now that we are nearing the end of production do we actually know how many ACR-E's were made thus far and how many remain on order due to be delivered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LABrit View Post
    So now that we are nearing the end of production do we actually know how many ACR-E's were made thus far and how many remain on order due to be delivered?
    Probably 800-900 total

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperDC View Post
    Probably 800-900 total
    What are you basing this on, or is this just some wild guess ??

    The question was " do we actually know how many" ......

    Just funny how the first response to someone asking for an actual number, starts with 'probably'

    I am 'almost positive' myself that no one will have the number for quite some time
    Last edited by commandomatt; 02-10-2017 at 05:35 PM.

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    Maybe 800-900 Cars , but ACR-Es , I would seriously doubt. Likely we will not hear anything official till after everything is finished, if past years tell us anything. There were quite a few more regular Vipers built in 2017 compared to 2016 , from what we have been told, even with the advent of all the Limited Models which were 95% ACR-Es. We did a bunch of conventional Vipers, TA Option Groups, etc.. In fact in viewing what folks wanted this year we ( our Dealership , personally) probably ended up with around 30-35% of our Vipers as non ACR cars. Last year we were likely closer to 85% of the cars were ACRs.

    Now if we are talking 800-900 cars from 2016 to 2017 , that number could be fairly realistic , but we are all just guessing at this point. It has always been very difficult to get exact numbers on Viper production during build, so imagine it will be much the same in our last year of production.

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    Thanks matey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Pemberton View Post
    Maybe 800-900 Cars , but ACR-Es , I would seriously doubt. Likely we will not hear anything official till after everything is finished, if past years tell us anything. There were quite a few more regular Vipers built in 2017 compared to 2016 , from what we have been told, even with the advent of all the Limited Models which were 95% ACR-Es. We did a bunch of conventional Vipers, TA Option Groups, etc.. In fact in viewing what folks wanted this year we ( our Dealership , personally) probably ended up with around 30-35% of our Vipers as non ACR cars. Last year we were likely closer to 85% of the cars were ACRs.

    Now if we are talking 800-900 cars from 2016 to 2017 , that number could be fairly realistic , but we are all just guessing at this point. It has always been very difficult to get exact numbers on Viper production during build, so imagine it will be much the same in our last year of production.
    they made 370 ACRs (regular and 1 of 1) last year with 620 ish Vipers made total. This year they will be making around the same amount but I imagine most orders will be for ACRs since most want the big boy car. Hell, there are 200+ special edition ACRs alone. Just an educated guess that we will end up with between 800 and 900 total ACRs built.

    We will have over 1200 Vipers total between 16/17. Just look at the VINs. Gerry wood has an incoming ACR ending with VIN 650 and they were over 600 in the VINs last year. Pretty easy to figure out.
    Last edited by ViperDC; 02-13-2017 at 01:57 PM.

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    Have to laugh when the number of "special edition" ACR's (at least 220+) probably exceeds the number of "regular" editions in 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperDC View Post
    they made 370 ACRs (regular and 1 of 1) last year with 620 ish Vipers made total. This year they will be making around the same amount but I imagine most orders will be for ACRs since most want the big boy car. Hell, there are 200+ special edition ACRs alone. Just an educated guess that we will end up with between 800 and 900 total ACRs built.

    We will have over 1200 Vipers total between 16/17. Just look at the VINs. Gerry wood has an incoming ACR ending with VIN 650 and they were over 600 in the VINs last year. Pretty easy to figure out.
    It's really fascinating to look at these production numbers. The rarity of the Dodge Viper really seems to be overshadowed by what was (but not now) lackluster demand. The car is truly fabulous in so many senses of the word.

    To think that less than 1,000 will be produced is incredible. Compare to this;
    40,689 Corvettes for 2016,
    Ferrari sold 7,664 units .
    3,245 Lamborghini's in 2016.
    Over 10,000 Porsche 991's.

    Add to this that so many were one-of-one, and those not in the individual program are still very likely so unique anyway, that the Dodge Viper is one of the rarest sports cars ever.

    When compared to what we all now refer to as "classic, rare, historical sportscars", when adjusted for population increase and wealth increase, this Dodge Viper is absolutely rare and will continue exponentially into the decades to be even more rare. Add that it's the "last of the breed", N/A, manual trans, bid displacement, gasoline powered (!) and rear wheel drive..... it's a story we all will watch unfold as time passes.

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    what he said

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    I agree 100%...Down the road collectors will look at the numbers car will always be very collectible!!! Plus it's bad ass...

    Quote Originally Posted by GerryWoodViper View Post
    It's really fascinating to look at these production numbers. The rarity of the Dodge Viper really seems to be overshadowed by what was (but not now) lackluster demand. The car is truly fabulous in so many senses of the word.

    To think that less than 1,000 will be produced is incredible. Compare to this;
    40,689 Corvettes for 2016,
    Ferrari sold 7,664 units .
    3,245 Lamborghini's in 2016.
    Over 10,000 Porsche 991's.

    Add to this that so many were one-of-one, and those not in the individual program are still very likely so unique anyway, that the Dodge Viper is one of the rarest sports cars ever.

    When compared to what we all now refer to as "classic, rare, historical sportscars", when adjusted for population increase and wealth increase, this Dodge Viper is absolutely rare and will continue exponentially into the decades to be even more rare. Add that it's the "last of the breed", N/A, manual trans, bid displacement, gasoline powered (!) and rear wheel drive..... it's a story we all will watch unfold as time passes.


 
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