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    Who Else is Hoping Waiting For Dodge to Re Open Ordering

    I'm hoping that someone from FCA is reading this forum every so often and will appreciate that I and others are waiting patiently with fingers crossed.

    As a prior Gen III owner and long time VCA member, I'd been monitoring the 2017 model year intent on ordering a "1 of 1". However, that option prematurely closed earlier this summer for reasons that we're all aware of.

    Since then, and like others I'm sure, I've been waiting for Dodge to determine what capacity it might have to re-open the orders.

    In late November, it was reported that Dodge had decided that it would re-open orders "before the end of the year" (2016).

    It is now nearly February and nothing seems to have happened thus far. If you're in the same boat, please post up so that FCA can see us/hear us and hopefully they can make this last opportunity become a reality before it is too late.

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    I was but have given up and shopping current market inventory new/used. Shame.

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    As I inderstand it, they will be trying hard to get all the orders done in time as it is.

    Good luck. I think there are plenty of good ones out there.

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    I look everyday on a couple sites for fun. There is a ton of new ones out there about every color you might want. What do you want if I may ask?

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    your car.

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    No, new at a dealer.

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    I also look around almost everyday, but there's nothing remotely close to what I want in new inventory.

    The original plan was to create a "1 of 1" non-ACR for street use, but with a wild color that mimics a Porsche paint-to-sample favorite. I worked with a local Sikkens Akzonobel distributor to identify it and we mixed and painted probably 20 different speedforms to hone in on the right shade.

    However, as the dream of a custom order has been slowly fading over several months, I'm starting to warm up to the idea of grabbing a used ACR-E if I can find an interesting enough color combo and the price is right. I've seen a few recently that look great to my eye and would be candidates, but I'm still holding out a little while longer to see if Dodge can come through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_in_fl View Post
    I also look around almost everyday, but there's nothing remotely close to what I want in new inventory.

    The original plan was to create a "1 of 1" non-ACR for street use, but with a wild color that mimics a Porsche paint-to-sample favorite. I worked with a local Sikkens Akzonobel distributor to identify it and we mixed and painted probably 20 different speedforms to hone in on the right shade.

    However, as the dream of a custom order has been slowly fading over several months, I'm starting to warm up to the idea of grabbing a used ACR-E if I can find an interesting enough color combo and the price is right. I've seen a few recently that look great to my eye and would be candidates, but I'm still holding out a little while longer to see if Dodge can come through.
    So first, the price will be MSRP or higher if the ACR-E is new. I haven't seen anything sold under that for months now. Most sell at MSRP but there are a few that try to get over MSRP, I'm not sure if they are getting their asking price or not. What's crazy is in the last month or two I've seen most used ACR-E vipers sell for around MSRP as well although it appears mods are hurting their price if you had an arrow PCM installed. The other used vipers don't seem to hold their values quite as well it appears.

    As for orders opening up again, I hope they open for your sake as well. Even if they do however, I would think the ACR-E may be the one that wouldn't be available since it sounded like they shut down due to not knowing if they had enough wings and such to make these ACR-Es. Vipers seem to take about 3-5 months to make at a minimum from what I've seen and production will likely stop in July since that is when the 2018 model would normally start. So that means there is only about 2 months left at this point I would think where they have a chance of opening up orders again in time to make one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneofOneViper View Post
    So first, the price will be MSRP or higher if the ACR-E is new. I haven't seen anything sold under that for months now. Most sell at MSRP but there are a few that try to get over MSRP, I'm not sure if they are getting their asking price or not. What's crazy is in the last month or two I've seen most used ACR-E vipers sell for around MSRP as well although it appears mods are hurting their price if you had an arrow PCM installed. The other used vipers don't seem to hold their values quite as well it appears.

    As for orders opening up again, I hope they open for your sake as well. Even if they do however, I would think the ACR-E may be the one that wouldn't be available since it sounded like they shut down due to not knowing if they had enough wings and such to make these ACR-Es. Vipers seem to take about 3-5 months to make at a minimum from what I've seen and production will likely stop in July since that is when the 2018 model would normally start. So that means there is only about 2 months left at this point I would think where they have a chance of opening up orders again in time to make one.

    Plenty have bought below MSRP, silly statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    Plenty have bought below MSRP, silly statement.
    Agreed... lot of them to be had at under MSRP. Plus gerrywood will be sitting with 100 plus vipers on ground looking for buyers. Market is well saturated for MSRP or above as long as you are a bit flexible with options. Just can't have what you exactly want anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdmuscle View Post
    Agreed... lot of them to be had at under MSRP. Plus gerrywood will be sitting with 100 plus vipers on ground looking for buyers. Market is well saturated for MSRP or above as long as you are a bit flexible with options. Just can't have what you exactly want anymore.
    These stats are just completely wrong. Don't speak just to speak if you don't know what you're talking about. First, Gerry Wood won't sell anything below MSRP when it comes to vipers. Will they in the future? Who knows. Second, they started with 141 vipers and have sold 53 on there site plus others that have not been marked off yet. That leaves them with 88ish? That is not "100 plus" and it's only been 2 months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    Plenty have bought below MSRP, silly statement.
    not a silly statement and yes plenty did buy below MSRP. Show me one person who bought an ACR-E new below MSRP since November and I'll show you a liar. Better yet, show me one selling below MSRP for a new ACR-E right now and I'll give you a buyer.

    The reality is this. Viper owners have been so used to getting such great deals for years because the car wasn't selling; I get it. I could have bought one last February at about 15k under MSRP. But I drug my feet and times have changed. The car has since been discontinued, set tons of track records, and getting world wide attention. Only about 200 ACREs are made a year and the demand far exceeds them. I and 2 other friends went to buy one months ago and no dealership is willing to bargain anymore (and trust me I tried a lot). I ended up buying at MSRP and I'm fine with that, but no one is going to be selling an ACRE under MSRP anymore. Again, if you know someone who is, point them out and I'll send them a buyer.
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    Labrit is selling his ACRE. It's the same color as my car but he has the ACR strips and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donk_316 View Post
    Labrit is selling his ACRE. It's the same color as my car but he has the ACR strips and so on.
    Love your color car! Palmer had the lambo grey ACR E for a short time that was ordered and it looked good, no stripe and didn't have the ext cf option and I do love that CF ext on the TA and ACR

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    Quote Originally Posted by donk_316 View Post
    Labrit is selling his ACRE. It's the same color as my car but he has the ACR strips and so on.
    What's the list price? That car is wicked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donk_316 View Post
    Labrit is selling his ACRE. It's the same color as my car but he has the ACR strips and so on.
    Not sure yet...have only done 950 miles so far so will take it out this weekend and decide. Too many cars and no time at the moment to drive any of them!

    List on mine was 169k and haven't advertised it other than a post on instagram and mentioned it's possibly available on this forum.
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    Maybe Bill could ask his contact for any updates on ordering reopening?

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    If ordering does not reopen, I would jump on a secondary color or you will be left out in the cold.

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    I am still hoping and praying as well.

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    I would love to order one as well, non-extreme ACR. But, also need to sell my TA to move up to ACR.

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    Or just wait for the 2020 Gen VI on the way????

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    They will not be opening up the orders. Get one now while you can. Woodhouse, VE or Gerrywood.
    09 ACR With all the goodies
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99RT10 View Post
    They will not be opening up the orders. Get one now while you can. Woodhouse, VE or Gerrywood.
    No more Roanoke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkrn View Post
    No more Roanoke?
    My bad, Roanoke too. Good people!
    09 ACR With all the goodies
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99RT10 View Post
    They will not be opening up the orders. Get one now while you can. Woodhouse, VE or Gerrywood.
    So why would Kuniskis go on record and say that orders would re open for a brief period? Doesn't make sense. If they weren't going to re open, why not just say nothing and leave it alone? I think there's still hope and that orders will re open shortly. We'll see.


 
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