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    1994 viper at Barrett Jackson

    1994 black viper sold yesterday at Barrett Jackson for $40k..... only had 700 miles but I went to look at the car last weekend and it was not in good shape imo. Problem with buying a car with low miles like that is first is the mileage correct and second none of the problems such as head gaskets have not been done yet.

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    Mileage is not always the best indicator of condition. I could park my brand new car in the middle of new york city, leave it there for a month, and when I returned (if it was still there lol), it would be scratched, dinged, and dented all over. Plus as you mentioned the fact that things will start to dry up with such low use.

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    The '94 black RT/10 sold for $44,000 (with buyer's commission)...not a bad price for what looks to be a clean, low-mileage gen 1!

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    There are Many, MANY 20 footer cars at Barrett. Been there, and have seen these cars. (although not this particular RT, so can't say for sure))..... It's Amazing how good those lights make the cars look... Mecum is higher quality cars. Look at what those 96 Coupes did.

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    Keep in mind that Mak has a RT10 and if he said the car was not in very good condition it likely was not. Same with Taximan's comments, been there and the lights often help the cars compared to their true quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Pemberton View Post
    Keep in mind that Mak has a RT10 and if he said the car was not in very good condition it likely was not. Same with Taximan's comments, been there and the lights often help the cars compared to their true quality.
    I find that even more encouraging. If a pos '94 Viper, as decribed by Mak, sells for $44,000, imagine what a quality '94 RT/10 could fetch.

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    Realistically the 40K it sold for is on the high side for a Gen 1, but the miles were likely the hook for the buyer. That said , I think many of us anticipate a gradual climb in the coming years when the cars all become harder to come by.

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    Keeping my 1992 perfect

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    Plus 1994 was the highest production year ever

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    Rich drunk people bidding on cars at an over glamorized auction. lol.



    Please folks, let's not use these cars as market indicators. Use the real world; a weighted average of all cars sold. Statistics is a science. Not a manipulation of facts to suit an agenda.

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    at 700 miles. your gonna have to hang all kinds of parts on that hoopti, or let it sit and rott sumor

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave6666 View Post
    Please folks, let's not use these cars as market indicators. Use the real world; a weighted average of all cars sold. Statistics is a science. Not a manipulation of facts to suit an agenda.
    Actually, auction sales are market indicators for the hobby and collector cars in general, and with prices on the rise this year, it looks like the vintage Viper is finally being recognized for the great car that we always knew it was.

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    Man that is a disappointing investment for someone to have. Over 20 years of storage and and staring at the thing and they LOST money. Said it before and I'll say it again but inflation of the $ plays a huge factor in these long term "investments".

    $40,000 today (2017) is like buying that car for $24,699.28 in 1994.
    http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

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    just buy hemi cuda,s, superbird hemi,s- Shelby true cobras and call it a day

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    Barrett Jackson as already noted is not a good barometer of market values for any collectible. I'm glad Vipers are on the rise though. Again I deal in old service station collectibles, values from $300-$100,000 plus, no phony repro crap, and every year I see at Barrett common $500 pieces bring $2500-$4000 plus with no exaggeration here. Some pieces do fall through the cracks but many bring double and triple retail. More money than sense we say...Anyway I know that Vipers will continue to go up over the years. Right now some of us can't see the forest for the trees. Once production stops that should change...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Houston View Post
    The '94 black RT/10 sold for $44,000 (with buyer's commission)...not a bad price for what looks to be a clean, low-mileage gen 1!
    I checked that car, it had damage... big gouge on the bumper down low, chips and scratches throughout the paint and the seats were nice but the dash was damaged. I told my wife that I might register to bid on it cause it might go very low, told her if it goes low I might buy it so I have extra parts for my '95...btw, my '95 looks 10 times better than what that one did. That first 700 miles were very rough I would say. Shocked it went for $40k and the buyers commission of 10%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    Barrett Jackson as already noted is not a good barometer of market values for any collectible. I'm glad Vipers are on the rise though. Again I deal in old service station collectibles, values from $300-$100,000 plus, no phony repro crap, and every year I see at Barrett common $500 pieces bring $2500-$4000 plus with no exaggeration here. Some pieces do fall through the cracks but many bring double and triple retail. More money than sense we say...Anyway I know that Vipers will continue to go up over the years. Right now some of us can't see the forest for the trees. Once production stops that should change...
    Usually the cars on a Wednesday don't go that crazy, its Friday and Saturday where they go nuts but I know what you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Pemberton View Post
    Keep in mind that Mak has a RT10 and if he said the car was not in very good condition it likely was not. Same with Taximan's comments, been there and the lights often help the cars compared to their true quality.
    I went there last Saturday for the preview and it wasn't lit up and you could see what it was.... I stayed up till midnight to catch the replay cause I missed it earlier and when it went across the stage with the lights I said to myself, is that the same car? lol

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    The barometer can be set at whatever $$$ and I've been researching Vipers for a couple months now and I've noticed that even reasonably priced Vipers have been on the market for; 100, 200, 300+ days so I don't think raising the set-point even higher will help them sell any faster?

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    1993 car sold at mecum last week for 32 grand plus the ding with 1900 miles. I saw it in person and it was near flawless.

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    seems to me that factory high hp cars bring the money, so these first year cars wont do anything in my opinion

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    Hey, good for that owner and seller. How else are we going to get the prices up? No let's do the usual thing the past few years and try to drive the prices down into the toilet, because that is the smart thing to do with our cars right? You may want your Viper to be peanuts but me, I would love to see it eventually go up in value and enjoy it all along putting miles with smiles! Truthfully, buy smart but if someone buys high, good for them and good for us owners too. Reality, is they should be worth a lot more than they are. Hell some good ones were selling for under $30k which is crazy when you think of what you are getting.

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    Got to be honest, never bought the '95 for an investment.... bought it sight unseen in June of '95 lived in Chicago at that time so was hard to drive with the lousy roads and the traffic and the weather. I bought the viper cause it reminded me of the batmobile when I saw it, told my wife got to have it. At that time they were going over list but I kept calling dealers and found a dealer that got one for me from another dealer and I paid under msrp. I have never bought a car at msrp and never will. When I buy a car I say to myself that money is gone for good, I don't figure the car is worth anything and then I don't worry about what it is worth ever again until I trade it in....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Houston View Post
    I find that even more encouraging. If a pos '94 Viper, as decribed by Mak, sells for $44,000, imagine what a quality '94 RT/10 could fetch.
    It all depends who is in the room at the time of the auction, and how bad they want that car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak1118 View Post
    Got to be honest, never bought the '95 for an investment.... bought it sight unseen in June of '95 lived in Chicago at that time so was hard to drive with the lousy roads and the traffic and the weather. I bought the viper cause it reminded me of the batmobile when I saw it, told my wife got to have it. At that time they were going over list but I kept calling dealers and found a dealer that got one for me from another dealer and I paid under msrp. I have never bought a car at msrp and never will. When I buy a car I say to myself that money is gone for good, I don't figure the car is worth anything and then I don't worry about what it is worth ever again until I trade it in....
    Smart man.


 
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