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  1. #26
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    got to 5:36.....was enough for me

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    I was shocked when he said "it wasn't viper enough". I've owned a Gen 2 and driven all the other Gens like many others here. They absolutely hit a home run with the Gen 5 in terms of blending performance, modern luxuries, and driving experience/engagement. Both these guys are tools.

  3. #28
    I'll have to stop watching reviews of the Viper and accept that there is clearly something wrong with ME.

    I see a company build a car (ACR variants) purely for true club racers and track rats that happens to be street legal yet has been at head of the field in actual competition.

    Then I watch "auto experts" pick it apart and exaggerate aspects of the car that weren't even within the scope of the design.

    FCA addresses some of these experts concerns while making the car even quicker still and this icon complains it's not Viper enough because it hooks up well on the street, even in first gear......


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    Lets hope his flashlight app is at least ANSI certified.

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    I think if you put him in a GTS he would have liked the "drive" better. Crying about drone in a race car sounds silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 46hemi View Post
    Lets hope his flashlight app is at least ANSI certified.
    Haha that's great.

    I wonder if the common perception would be different if FCA sent a GTS model along with an ACR model for the auto media?

    It seems as though they are totally unaware that any Viper can be ordered and outfitted to whatever the owner's desire is.

  7. #32
    I'm sure you guys all realize this is a "standard" Viper review. The kind we've had for years. The give begrudging praise, but generally dislike it otherwise.

    However, I must agree with them on those welds.

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    The best way I can choose to look at this is that they wanted to see how Dodge made a car that beats everything on the track for $130k and then proceed to pick things out that are not up to par with $500k+ cars. They do have some compliments mixed in with the critisism but the whole thing comes off as a bit snobbish. Tough to argue some things couldn't be better but you have to realize what price point you are working in. It is sometimes frustrtating when people are misinformed about a car we are knowledgable about, but not everyone can be an expert. I can't really disagree, if I decided to start from scratch I'd make everything from billet aluminum, titanium, and carbon too but at $150k I'd have 1/5 of a car.

  9. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by SSGNRDZ_28 View Post
    The best way I can choose to look at this is that they wanted to see how Dodge made a car that beats everything on the track for $130k and then proceed to pick things out that are not up to par with $500k+ cars. They do have some compliments mixed in with the critisism but the whole thing comes off as a bit snobbish. Tough to argue some things couldn't be better but you have to realize what price point you are working in. It is sometimes frustrtating when people are misinformed about a car we are knowledgable about, but not everyone can be an expert. I can't really disagree, if I decided to start from scratch I'd make everything from billet aluminum, titanium, and carbon too but at $150k I'd have 1/5 of a car.
    Well said.

    But the video said he was an expert! Haha

  10. #35
    At least he didn't call it a kit car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSGNRDZ_28 View Post
    The best way I can choose to look at this is that they wanted to see how Dodge made a car that beats everything on the track for $130k and then proceed to pick things out that are not up to par with $500k+ cars.
    Perfectly said. This sums the video up.

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    Well, I suppose the review duped us all in the end. It got them clicks, which is how they make their money. They probably don't care whether you love or hate the review, as long as you watch it. In fact, they probably get more clicks by putting a review like this out there which is probably intended to stir the pot a little to get the 'number of views' quota.

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    Incidentally...Alex Roy (the bald guy) holds or held the cross country speed record and daily drives (including in rain and winter) a Morgan 3 Wheeler.

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    If the ACR had a Porsche badge, they'd fall over themselves to say how raw and pure of an experience it is.

    Even wankers like Harris who bemoan the loss of "raw" experiences like the Viper did a whole 1 minute video on the most insane performing car ever.

    Par for the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Extreme View Post
    My guess is these guys are planning a Viper that will be built with the highest quality parts and labor.

    Realize who they are and what they do and it's easy to see their perspective - again it's just a guess but a like Porsche Singer build of the Viper could be what they have planned.
    That would be insane! And all the awesome!

    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    If the ACR had a Porsche badge, they'd fall over themselves to say how raw and pure of an experience it is.

    Even wankers like Harris who bemoan the loss of "raw" experiences like the Viper did a whole 1 minute video on the most insane performing car ever.

    Par for the course.
    The thing about the RS or R (both of which don't appeal to me that much and I've owned GT3s...5 911s total) is that the build quality is indisputably industry leading. I mean they are NICELY made.

    Quote Originally Posted by v10enomous View Post
    At least he didn't call it a kit car...
    Why, because some kit cars have better finishing? (I joke...not really ;-)

    Don't get me wrong...I'm very much looking forward to my ACR and I think (as they mentioned) the interior is actually first rate. The exterior finishing of paint and carbon is also first rate.

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    They look old enough.... back in the day I wonder how much they whined and complained about the original Cobra not having a top, windows and those huge side pipes trying to burn their legs.....bet they would love to have one of those original unrefined Cobra's now! Now I'm going to go back in the warehouse and look at my triple black beast....


 
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