Dyno with VE Heads and Cams and Im very happy

[Stealth78]

http://www.viperalley.com/forum/vipe...-b-forced.html

QUOTE FROM TUNER WHO DYNOED THE SET UP BACK TO BACK.

So there was an increase of 38HP between Belanger and B&B? Which set of B&B headers? B&B offers two different styles and one of them is extremely expensive. If this example went with bigger primaries especially while being FI that's probably where the extra power came from. As for B&B's, I ran a set on one of my SRT Rams, loved them! Why does it seem like not many Viper guys run B&B?

[v10tt]

http://www.viperalley.com/forum/vipe...t-my-mods.html

Post #4, and #9.

from another Roe Blower car with header change.

[v10tt]

read post #17 and #28


http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/...s-Graph-inside

So there was an increase of 38HP between Belanger and B&B? Which set of B&B headers? B&B offers two different styles and one of them is extremely expensive. If this example went with bigger primaries especially while being FI that's probably where the extra power came from. As for B&B's, I ran a set on one of my SRT Rams, loved them! Why does it seem like not many Viper guys run B&B?

[DADS ACR]

This video showed up on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/keith.brantley.106

[FLATOUT]

No offense but we have dyno'd these kits back to back on multiple occasions on the same dyno, on the same day, with different header brands and yes ARH makes more than the Bellangers consistently but it's no where near those numbers at least not on our heads and cam packages. We'll see about a 7rwhp spread but that's probably the most I have ever seen with the average typically being about 5rwhp.

JPrinces car dyno's and runs just like all the others in same day, same environment conditions.

Andy

http://www.viperalley.com/forum/vipe...gain-40-a.html

[Jprince]

I have no doubt that my car is not far off from any other v/e heads and cam car. Thanks for clearing this up Andy. I know dyno variation can be huge. My 630hp was on a local dyno and 80+ deg outside. It still made more power than any other NA car there by a long shot. [there were a lot of cars there].

[Dave1968]

One thing I've noticed about Dad's car, where's the torque? More than 100 ft/pds less than the other with the Arrow, heads and cam setup. Must be in the cam I guess, motor's not pumping near as much air as the Arrow setup. Thoughts...

[FLATOUT]

One thing I've noticed about Dad's car, where's the torque? More than 100 ft/pds less than the other with the Arrow, heads and cam setup. Must be in the cam I guess, motor's not pumping near as much air as the Arrow setup. Thoughts...

The most my ViperExchange/Arrow Heads and Cam car ever made was 601ftlbs. We "typically" see about a 60 digit delta between the two numbers.

[ViperDC]

Beast.

[chicagopd50]

So if i trap 130mph at 1/4... and 102 at 1/8 mile... what hp range am i at? Is there a formula ? Also my run was in 200 DA on 50 degrees day

[FLATOUT]

So if i trap 130mph at 1/4... and 102 at 1/8 mile... what hp range am i at? Is there a formula ? Also my run was in 200 DA on 50 degrees day

Going 130 in +200DA in a non aero car I would say you're probably in the 575 rwhp range? Somewhere between stock and a Bolton car (Gen IV or V). Weight and wind direction could also affect things.

[98intrigue]

So if i trap 130mph at 1/4... and 102 at 1/8 mile... what hp range am i at? Is there a formula ? Also my run was in 200 DA on 50 degrees day

Andy is pretty close. My car made 570whp and I trapped 133mph in the 1/4 in 300 DA on a low 60 degree night.

[dethred]

Not much difference in weather in South Florida from January to June. It was 80 degrees and had a IAT of 94 when I dynoed.

Nice! That answers that question. I wonder what it would make in 20*F cooler weather, assuming the stage II tune for H/C also pulls timing based on IAT.

[KB Viper]

awesome numbers, do you have them in SAE?

[FLATOUT]

awesome numbers, do you have them in SAE?

SAE was 694rwhp I believe, but yes he has them.

[Snorman]

SAE was 694/611.
S.

[KB Viper]

SAE was 694rwhp I believe, but yes he has them.

Those are amazing numbers, congrats. Did Dick update the cal, it seems like a lot of the recent builds have been dynoing 40ish whp higher than the before? Either way, what an awesome package.

[FLATOUT]

Those are amazing numbers, congrats. Did Dick update the cal, it seems like a lot of the recent builds have been dynoing 40ish whp higher than the before? Either way, what an awesome package.

Same package just different dyno's.

[Stealth78]

read post #17 and #28


http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/...s-Graph-inside

Hey bud, thanks for the pm as well. Granted I am looking in the Gen IV section but this is what I'm talking about. B&B has two sets of headers, one at $1,959 (1-3/4), and another at a whopping $3,922 (1-3/4 to 1- 7/8). http://www.bbexhaust.com/shop/dodge-...std-collector/ and http://www.bbexhaust.com/shop/dodge-...rge-collector/

[DADS ACR]

Here's the SAE graph.

Keith ACR SAE.jpg

[cashcorn]

flatout has nailed it.. Same package just different dyno's...

[biturboamg]

Once I get my car done I will post the 1/4 results from a car with HC and also running at a track that sits at 5000ft with a DA in the 6500-7500 range. Last time we rented the track we had a Tesla P90D running 11.3's all day with 1 passanger or 4 of us in the car, a 650s and a 12c running low 11's, a hellcat in the low 12's, a whipple FGT in low 11's and trapping in the 138 range with traction issues and my 997.2 Turbo S running 130-133mph ranging from 10.9-11.3 depending on the 60ft which never got better than 1.89.

[Nine Ball]

At one time, I thought I'd no longer see dyno racing once I evolved from Mustang and Camaro sites. I was wrong. LOL

The only thing that matters is net gain from your car before/after on the same dyno, period. Comparing dyno results across the country, on different cars, or even the same car on two different dynos, is just silly. That data isn't even relevant to compare between.

[DADS ACR]

No Dyno racing intended, just sharing my data.

[ACRucrazy]

No Dyno racing intended, just sharing my data.