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  1. #51
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    Read much? Face palm....

    Please please post your thoughts on the alley. Im a sweetie compared to those guys.

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    CJ sold the ACR because he had a new business opportunity that required some cash. He loved the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greygt3 View Post
    CJ sold the ACR because he had a new business opportunity that required some cash. He loved the car.
    That was one of the first Gen V ACR's we built, and it had our Active Suspension on it from day one. Got a lot of great feedback from CJ, Marc Miller, and Bill Riley on that car. Thrilled CJ took the plunge and got into Viper.

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dman View Post
    Good post, agreed. Only thing that throws this year off is Gerry Wood in terms of 'they can't build enough'. He bought the equivalent of 20% of vipers made in 2016, in one shot, which closed ordering. That to me is an artificial incident, if he hadn't, nothing suggest there'd have been a hiccup in producing more than enough thru the year. The fact that he still has plenty in stock means supply was beyond demand, and we know what that usually means. But couldn't agree more on every point really. Cross marketing, which could've been great for the viper, miserable failure in the marketing campaign killed the first 2+ years, quality issues, combined with perf records, a bit crazy. As you say, time will tell and until then, we get to enjoy these beasts. I'm about to wire money over for my 5th and possibly last new viper and after 18 years with these cars, I'm still giddy about it. They're indeed special.
    There is no question I took a gamble. My conversations with FCA indicated that ordering was not brisk, and production would not have met capacity when the factory shut down in the early summer 2017.

    However, we have over 60% of our cars sold (marked sold on the website www.gerrywoodviper.com) and 85% of these are to first time Viper buyers, and often first time Mopar buyers. This car, now that it has been marked for extinction, is being demanded by those who've "considered" one but always had other options. I have sold two cars each to six individuals in the past 3 months, and not one of those six people have ever owned a Viper. When people say "I'll take two" and are cash buyers, it's a solid indication of what's happening below the headlines.

    Without a doubt, if the car was to only be sold to people who had enjoyed pervious generations it would have never sold out. Rest assured, they are selling and they are selling briskly. Our slowest week was 5. The holidays slowed up, and I joke that "guys who wanted more cars in 2017 needed to focus on diamonds an furs over the holidays so they could get those cars next year", but inquiries over New Years showed a major uptick in demand.
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    Do you have any special edition Voodoo II's that are unspoken for?

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    omg.. too funny! !249k .. is this dealer smoking crack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GerryWoodViper View Post
    There is no question I took a gamble. My conversations with FCA indicated that ordering was not brisk, and production would not have met capacity when the factory shut down in the early summer 2017.

    However, we have over 60% of our cars sold (marked sold on the website www.gerrywoodviper.com) and 85% of these are to first time Viper buyers, and often first time Mopar buyers. This car, now that it has been marked for extinction, is being demanded by those who've "considered" one but always had other options. I have sold two cars each to six individuals in the past 3 months, and not one of those six people have ever owned a Viper. When people say "I'll take two" and are cash buyers, it's a solid indication of what's happening below the headlines.

    Without a doubt, if the car was to only be sold to people who had enjoyed pervious generations it would have never sold out. Rest assured, they are selling and they are selling briskly. Our slowest week was 5. The holidays slowed up, and I joke that "guys who wanted more cars in 2017 needed to focus on diamonds an furs over the holidays so they could get those cars next year", but inquiries over New Years showed a major uptick in demand.
    So 40% unsold and we're now into the next year. I'm not saying you eventually won't sell all, not my point at all either. I was just pointing out that the "sold out" of gen5s is artificial because you bought them out and closed ordering as a result, you have nearly half still in inventory. If you hadn't done that, viper ordering would still be plodding along, as it was, and orders would still be open, etc. The car hasn't sold itself out, you bought it out. I'm not busting on you at all, it is what it is, just that we're in an artificial market at the moment due to this.

    If my friggin GTS had sold a week sooner I'd have beat your order and gotten my order in, dang it. But I'm making lemonade with an inventory car so it's all fine.

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    Wish I had the money for a second one to tuck away.
    Last of the normally aspirated manual cars
    Fastest production car ever made around a road course
    Super low production for OEM cars
    last of Viper production ever

    You don't have to be a Viper guy to appreciate all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Steve View Post
    Wish I had the money for a second one to tuck away.
    Last of the normally aspirated manual cars
    Fastest production car ever made around a road course
    Super low production for OEM cars
    last of Viper production ever

    You don't have to be a Viper guy to appreciate all of this.
    EXACTLY how I feel Steve. Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Steve View Post
    Wish I had the money for a second one to tuck away.
    Last of the normally aspirated manual cars
    Fastest production car ever made around a road course
    Super low production for OEM cars
    last of Viper production ever

    You don't have to be a Viper guy to appreciate all of this.
    Agreed. I'd been a longtime Porsche guy, but the ACRE convinced me to take the plung into my first Viper. Glad I did...its awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 38D View Post
    Agreed. I'd been a longtime Porsche guy, but the ACRE convinced me to take the plung into my first Viper. Glad I did...its awesome!
    Ditto. 5 911s including GT3 and this was just too wild not to try. Also, I was very impressed by the overall exterior and interior quality of the vehicle.

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    I want two ACR-E's!

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    38 D- I am a Porsche guy as well as a Viper guy. The one car in the world that I enjoy as much as my 996 Cup on track is the ACR . Its faster then my Cup car on track and dare I say I think faster then a 991 Cup or as fast . Its faster then factory built race cars,its hard for anyone to not love this car.

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    If it weren't for the ACR-E, not sure what I'd have moved into next after my C7 Z06 for track use. I'd kicked around a GT3 for about a year, and was actually 1st on my dealer's list for a '16, but they never got a '16 allocated and I decided to just keep my 911 Turbo. Now I'm considering what to replace the 911 with...maybe a McLaren. But the ACR was a fantastic choice for me, and I got back into a manual trans track car.
    S.

  15. #65
    A note from the novice and sorry if this gets boring...I don't know a damn thing about Vipers but learning everyday...Gerry Woods Viper I probably fall into your category of typical buyers. I saw my first Viper around 1997 or so. No way I could afford one, raising kids and a cautious wife. Watched this beast grow every year...Every car show I would run to see the newest Viper. In 2013, when the Gen V appeared I couldn't stand it anymore. Then I found out in 2015/2016 they made a purple one-love that color... I had built my business up since the 1990s and could now afford one. A friend owns a Dodge Dealership and sold me one at his cost. I told him not too! I didn't care what I had to pay just had to have one. So in 2016 I ordered a GTC Stryker Purple and took the factory tour. Best day of my life!!! I really don't care if my car triples in price or falls to 5k...I mean that as it will never be for sale. I make my money elsewhere. Six months later when I found out this may be/is the last year I ordered another Viper 2017 GTC ACR-you guessed it, in purple from my same dealer friend. Gerry I actually called your company you had nearly exactly what I was about to order but it had sold!!! I understand there is a lot of people here with investments and care about values down the road. I deal in antiques and understand people concerns and how everyone tries to figure out values. I deal with these people everyday and no it's not Vipers but the concerns are the same. It's often a crap shoot. I say buy and enjoy...hopefully it'll go up! For the sake of the heritage of the Viper I do hope they go up, for all of you. I really believe it will, every one of them. Enjoy your Vipers they really are a great car!

    Quote Originally Posted by GerryWoodViper View Post
    There is no question I took a gamble. My conversations with FCA indicated that ordering was not brisk, and production would not have met capacity when the factory shut down in the early summer 2017.

    However, we have over 60% of our cars sold (marked sold on the website www.gerrywoodviper.com) and 85% of these are to first time Viper buyers, and often first time Mopar buyers. This car, now that it has been marked for extinction, is being demanded by those who've "considered" one but always had other options. I have sold two cars each to six individuals in the past 3 months, and not one of those six people have ever owned a Viper. When people say "I'll take two" and are cash buyers, it's a solid indication of what's happening below the headlines.

    Without a doubt, if the car was to only be sold to people who had enjoyed pervious generations it would have never sold out. Rest assured, they are selling and they are selling briskly. Our slowest week was 5. The holidays slowed up, and I joke that "guys who wanted more cars in 2017 needed to focus on diamonds an furs over the holidays so they could get those cars next year", but inquiries over New Years showed a major uptick in demand.

  16. #66
    Snorman- go look at the new turbo its an amazing car.

  17. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Steve View Post
    Snorman- go look at the new turbo its an amazing car.
    I probably won't go from a 991.1 to a 991.2 Turbo. I'll wait to see what's next. Not enough of change from what I have now.
    I do like what they did with the rear fascia, but only 20 more hp, same interior, not many changes.
    S.


 
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