WANTED 96 or 97 B W GTS

[ACRSNK]

Looking for a clean, no stories, no accident, 100% original paint 96 or 97 B/W GTS. Must have less than 10K miles and come with documentation. Window Sticker a must. Prefer stock, but open to a car with some light mods if stock parts are available to return to stock. I had a 97 and sold it a few years back. Should have kept it as I am now in the market for the same exact car I sold. Go figure.

If you have anything or know of someone selling, please shoot me a PM. I am also very familiar with these cars and know what the current market is, so please don't PM me with cars that have crazy prices attached to them or Sellers that are dreaming. I will pay current market value, not what the car cost new, used to be worth, or will "likely" be worth in the future.

Thanks in advance for any and all leads.

[FrankBarba]

What are the current prices for a 96 GTS ? Just want to make sure that i don't place
a false value on my 96 GTS....

[GTSgreg]

Looking for a clean, no stories, no accident, 100% original paint 96 or 97 B/W GTS. Must have less than 10K miles and come with documentation. Window Sticker a must. Prefer stock, but open to a car with some light mods if stock parts are available to return to stock. I had a 97 and sold it a few years back. Should have kept it as I am now in the market for the same exact car I sold. Go figure.

If you have anything or know of someone selling, please shoot me a PM. I am also very familiar with these cars and know what the current market is, so please don't PM me with cars that have crazy prices attached to them or Sellers that are dreaming. I will pay current market value, not what the car cost new, used to be worth, or will "likely" be worth in the future.

Thanks in advance for any and all leads.

I'm interested to know your values on these cars as well. I just bought one exactly as you're describing. Shopped around for a long time and know what I paid, as well as what cars were listed for what, note there were only a handful publicly listed.
Want to hear what you assess the market value at for that car.

[PrincetonTT]

Also curious as I just finished my shopping. Asking prices are all over and I stuck to my opinion of market value and ended up landing a better car for my original budget.

[ACRSNK]

I will consider anything as stated in my original post. Real world pricing for what I am looking for is mid to upper $40's depending on the particular car and miles. There are at least 2 out there that are being offered at low $40's, but have no documentation and that is a must for me.

[OneofOneViper]

I will consider anything as stated in my original post. Real world pricing for what I am looking for is mid to upper $40's depending on the particular car and miles. There are at least 2 out there that are being offered at low $40's, but have no documentation and that is a must for me.

So I'm not 100% sure of what they are worth either but I think you're definitely low on the price. I was/am looking for the same type of 96 viper with less than 10k miles, proper documentation, un-modded and no history and was willing to pay 50k for it, but I found no one willing to sell such a car. I know they exists I just don't think anyone who has that kind of car is willing to sell. I moved on an bought a Gen 5 ACR-E, but that doesn't mean if I happen to find one I wouldn't entertain the idea of owning yet another viper.

[PrincetonTT]

There is a 12k mile yellow ACR at Viper Exchange for 50k with window sticker and documentation that has been for sale for a bit - does yellow hurt values that much?

[OneofOneViper]

There is a 12k mile yellow ACR at Viper Exchange for 50k with window sticker and documentation that has been for sale for a bit - does yellow hurt values that much?

They're just not the same. Not the same kind of person/collector want that 12k ACR as the person that wants the original Blue/white GTS viper from '96/'97

[ACRSNK]

So I'm not 100% sure of what they are worth either but I think you're definitely low on the price. I was/am looking for the same type of 96 viper with less than 10k miles, proper documentation, un-modded and no history and was willing to pay 50k for it, but I found no one willing to sell such a car. I know they exists I just don't think anyone who has that kind of car is willing to sell. I moved on an bought a Gen 5 ACR-E, but that doesn't mean if I happen to find one I wouldn't entertain the idea of owning yet another viper.

Did you check out the one at Viper Exchange with 900 miles? That car is certainly worth something in the $50's. The car I am looking for is not a $50K car. I have an 02 ACR & a 92 RT/10. I am looking for a B/W and a couple other Vipers to add to the stable. Don't want a sub 1000 mile car as I plan on driving it.

[OneofOneViper]

Did you check out the one at Viper Exchange with 900 miles? That car is certainly worth something in the $50's. The car I am looking for is not a $50K car. I have an 02 ACR & a 92 RT/10. I am looking for a B/W and a couple other Vipers to add to the stable. Don't want a sub 1000 mile car as I plan on driving it.

Yeah, it's been listed there for awhile but it's actually 60k. Just didn't want to pay that much for a car I wouldn't really drive. Some might say 50k, 60k, what's the difference? I don't know I guess I had a hard enough time willing to pay 50k that 60k was out of the question. I'm not really a collector, I just like vipers---even that isn't 100% true because I thought Vipers had gone south when they came out with Gen3/4's so I stuck with my Gen2. I didn't get back on board with their car until the Gen5 came out and it was just too expensive in 2013 for the GTS I felt so I passed until the ACR came out and couldn't be more happy. Same price if not cheaper than the GTS in 2013 and so much more car.

[OneofOneViper]

Below is a link to one that was listed for 53k and sold awhile back before viper gen2 prices started increasing slightly. Also a great car with low miles. But again you can see the sold amount was more than 50k even at a time when prices for vipers were weaker comparatively.

http://www.viperexchange.com/vehicle...-tx-id-9968769

[ACRSNK]

Below is a link to one that was listed for 53k and sold awhile back before viper gen2 prices started increasing slightly. Also a great car with low miles. But again you can see the sold amount was more than 50k even at a time when prices for vipers were weaker comparatively.

http://www.viperexchange.com/vehicle...-tx-id-9968769

Where do you see the "sold" amount? Listing and Selling prices are often very different. A lot of the 96/97 B/W cars that have run through recent auctions have mostly been well below $50K. Check the Mecum web site for results. There are multiple. In fact, if you look at one example, a 3K miles 97 B/W that sold for $48K, that seller would have been much better off selling the car on his own. By the time you deduct the commission and the cost of getting the car to auction, he was lucky if he walked away with $42K.

I'm certain I'll find what I am looking for. I always do .

[OneofOneViper]

Where do you see the "sold" amount? Listing and Selling prices are often very different. A lot of the 96/97 B/W cars that have run through recent auctions have mostly been well below $50K. Check the Mecum web site for results. There are multiple. In fact, if you look at one example, a 3K miles 97 B/W that sold for $48K, that seller would have been much better off selling the car on his own. By the time you deduct the commission and the cost of getting the car to auction, he was lucky if he walked away with $42K.

I'm certain I'll find what I am looking for. I always do .

I don't see the sold price, I apologize. I just meant that I was watching the car awhile back and it was listed for 53k and sold relatively quickly so I'm sure it sold right around what they were asking for it. I only know it sold quickly because I was still dragging my feet as to whether to buy it or not so I figured I'd wait and if it didn't sell I might be able to negotiate lower.

I do hope you find what you're looking for. Just giving you my experience looking for the same thing with even a higher price point for a year or more and sort of just gave up when the ACR-Es grabbed my attention more.

[MikeG]

I have a 96 B/W with 6,500 miles. Has the original window sticker in a frame and has a viper car cover. Has a new battery and 3M clear cover on the front bumper. Front bumper has no scratches. Car has no dings or dents or rock chips. It is completely stock. Bought it 2 years ago with 5,000 miles and has zero problems. Has been serviced by voa member and has been seen in person by multiple St Louis Viper members. I paid 53 for it and would only sell for around that price. Email me if you want any further info. Thanks, Mike

[99RT10]

I have a 96 B/W with 6,500 miles. Has the original window sticker in a frame and has a viper car cover. Has a new battery and 3M clear cover on the front bumper. Front bumper has no scratches. Car has no dings or dents or rock chips. It is completely stock. Bought it 2 years ago with 5,000 miles and has zero problems. Has been serviced by voa member and has been seen in person by multiple St Louis Viper members. I paid 53 for it and would only sell for around that price. Email me if you want any further info. Thanks, Mike

Don't sell it for any less than $60K.

[slitherv10]

Selling a 96 B/W for anything under 50K with under 10K miles and with all the documentation is giving it away. 2017 is the last year of the Viper. Once that catches on to some that don't know the news, it will most definitely start to climb well above where it is now. If I were to sell a 96 B/W now, i would be asking a premium. You will all regret selling them for under that. I would say the dealers are dead on what they should be worth now. Legendary Automobiles sold a couple a few years back when there was no news of 2017 and they sold for high 60's CND. Add two years and the Vipers extinction in 2017 and you get the picture.
I wonder what they OP sold their car for a few years ago and the condition and documentation involved. Missing ust the original window sticker can mean thousands for a collector. Missing anything since factory can mean thousands.

Oh Ya,,,,,pay no attention to my avatar...

[harley56]

Sold my '96 w/4000 miles. Consigned it as did not want the hassle. They sold it quickly for $52K and netted me $49K. That was good enough for me as only sold because I purchased another '96 with 1200 miles.

[ACRSNK]

Sold my '96 w/4000 miles. Consigned it as did not want the hassle. They sold it quickly for $52K and netted me $49K. That was good enough for me as only sold because I purchased another '96 with 1200 miles.

Did you ever have a Silver 87 Buick Turbo T? I bought one from a guy a few years ago that had the same name from the Turbo Buick forum "harley56". Was silver / gray T with 13K miles.

[harley56]

Did you ever have a Silver 87 Buick Turbo T? I bought one from a guy a few years ago that had the same name from the Turbo Buick forum "harley56". Was silver / gray T with 13K miles.

Same name, but different person, but I like his taste in cars.

[ACRSNK]

Sold my '96 w/4000 miles. Consigned it as did not want the hassle. They sold it quickly for $52K and netted me $49K. That was good enough for me as only sold because I purchased another '96 with 1200 miles.

Thanks for the feedback. Like I said mid to high $40's is where the market is now. Funny thing aside from what others on this thread have said is that I have already received multiple messages on my quest despite what some on here apparently think is unreasonable and I just posted this! think I might even find something before years end. Have 2 very good leads.

[slitherv10]

Thanks for the feedback. Like I said mid to high $40's is where the market is now. Funny thing aside from what others on this thread have said is that I have already received multiple messages on my quest despite what some on here apparently think is unreasonable and I just posted this! think I might even find something before years end. Have 2 very good leads.

Then why not grab one of those cars from those multiple messages you received?

As per your quote in your OP" Should have kept it as I am now in the market for the same exact car I sold. Go figure"......whomever sells you one for under 50 will regret it as you have when you sold your 97 and your back looking for another and so will they for well over what they sell it to you for.

[ACRSNK]

Don't sell it for any less than $60K.

Actually you should ask $100K. Why settle for $60K?

[Martin]

One of these days I might sell my '97 B&W GTS, but it's only got 7775 miles on it, all stock (except for the cat-back - but I have all the original factory parts down to the original factory oil filter that I removed at 5 miles), all documentation along with my window sticker, never did the frame recalls (wanted to keep it factory stock and no mistakes) and it's perfect in every way that I can think of. I don't think I'd let it go for anywhere in the 40's though - if you can find a perfect one in that price range, grab it while you can. One of these days I'll let it go, but for now, that's the car that started it all for me and has too much sentimental value.

[harley56]

One of these days I might sell my '97 B&W GTS, but it's only got 7775 miles on it, all stock (except for the cat-back - but I have all the original factory parts down to the original factory oil filter that I removed at 5 miles), all documentation along with my window sticker, never did the frame recalls (wanted to keep it factory stock and no mistakes) and it's perfect in every way that I can think of. I don't think I'd let it go for anywhere in the 40's though - if you can find a perfect one in that price range, grab it while you can. One of these days I'll let it go, but for now, that's the car that started it all for me and has too much sentimental value.

Martin, just like you, I've never done frame recall. Too many botched and not necessary for normal use.

[Martin]

Martin, just like you, I've never done frame recall. Too many botched and not necessary for normal use.

My feeling on it is that the recall can be done anytime, and like you, I've seen so many botched ones (or ones that are going to crap ten years later due to corrosion, etc.) that I chose to not do it. I'd wager that the unmolested cars end up going for a premium eventually. If they're not track cars, no real need to do the recall - and despite what people say, those particular recalls are not "must do" items in my opinion. I did almost "do the recall" before the bankruptcy by just getting the entire parts kit for each and just having the dealer mark it as "done". I figured that the parts might eventually disappear, so I wanted them to follow the car if I ever wanted to sell it - but I figured I'd let the new owner decide whether to have them done or not.