2014 car with 10k miles, using 1qt/300 miles, found to have scoring on pistons

[97gtscoupe]

I'm sorry for keeping you guys in the dark! I was keeping my fingers crossed while things were in motion. I received multiple calls (Andy, Dealer service manager, FCA) that my warranty has been restored and that the engine will be covered - it will take some time for it to arrive as it's not currently in stock. Props to Andy for all his time spent fighting for everyone behind the scenes all year. There are a lot of other people that put in a ton of time and effort, many forum members, the Arrow/Prefix guys, and a few good folks at FCA that want to do the right thing.

I'm sure there are lots of questions, and I don't have all the answers, such as whether or not it's ok (from a warranty perspective) to put the Arrow PCM on, but hopefully more clarification on that will come. As of now, to be safe, I've told the dealer to keep the stock PCM installed until I can make a more informed decision. It's still a great car without the Arrow PCM, but I very much want to have it back in, as it makes a world of difference in power, sound, and throttle response.

That is great news man! Congrats. Lots of people were doubting you on trying to fight this, and they were wrong. Glad it got cleared up fast before you had to spend lots of money!

[Venomns]

Glad to hear you were taken care of!! great job to those behind the scenes that are helping the owners. Now if we can just have some proof that it won't be a problem, I guarantee many people will be adding the PCM, headers, and exhaust. I miss the raw sound!

[7TH_SIGN]

I just saw another 2013 engine fail. Luckily it was stock and covered under warranty.

[swexlin]

I just saw another 2013 engine fail. Luckily it was stock and covered under warranty.

Details? Someone on here, or you heard somewhere?

[7TH_SIGN]

Details? Someone on here, or you heard somewhere?

I came across it while messing on instagram. States a rod bearing went bad.

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[swexlin]

I wonder how long he waited for them to OK the replacement? It's now taking weeks, I believe, until they are convinced there are no mods.

[Donato]

Probably a silly question but I was planning on a 13-15 in about a year. What happens if I get a 13 with like 1500 miles on it and then engine blows at 1600 miles out of warranty? SOL I would guess...

[ViperSmith]

Andy is a great resource for our community - so helpful.

[Dman]

Probably a silly question but I was planning on a 13-15 in about a year. What happens if I get a 13 with like 1500 miles on it and then engine blows at 1600 miles out of warranty? SOL I would guess...

I'd stick to one that still has the 6/60 drivetrain warranty, that would cover the engine and diff, which are the two main things to 'worry' about. Any gen5 with zero warranty should end up highly discounted, then you can save a budget in case you have an issue, and be free to mod. Two possible approaches.

[AZTVR]

Probably a silly question but I was planning on a 13-15 in about a year. What happens if I get a 13 with like 1500 miles on it and then engine blows at 1600 miles out of warranty? SOL I would guess...

The powertrain warranty was extended from the original 5 year/100,000 miles to 10 years/100,000 miles on select 2013 and 2014 Vipers. So far, all cars that were subject to the r28 recall that have been checked have shown the extension and none that did not have the r28 recall show the extension. Therefore, the consensus is that it is only the r28 cars that were extended. Definitely, you would want to verify that with a dealer on the specific car that you would be buying. There is another thread that is trying to validate whether this extension of warranty follows the car, and is NOT specific to the owner at the time of the extension. There is some conflicting evidence on this. As a prospective buyer, I am keeping an eye on that thread. http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...-big-3-dealers

[Dman]

It's no better on the 16-17 cars. We have both 16 and 17 ACR-Es out there waiting on motor replacements from being blown, the 17 has 82 miles on it. The gen5 will be remembered for major records, but also engine failures throughout its entire production.

[swexlin]

Where did you hear of the 17? 82 miles????

[AZTVR]

We have both 16 and 17 ACR-Es out there waiting on motor replacements from being blown, the 17 has 82 miles on it.

Where did you hear of the 17? 82 miles????

Well, I read the FB post by the owner of the 82 mile 2017 ACR-E. He said "Went to start it and it turned over but wouldn't fire. Dash said crank/cam misalignment. " He is awaiting a new longblock. Not what I would describe as a "blown" motor.

[ACRucrazy]

Here is the one from today

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And some replies

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[Dman]

Well, I read the FB post by the owner of the 82 mile 2017 ACR-E. He said "Went to start it and it turned over but wouldn't fire. Dash said crank/cam misalignment. " He is awaiting a new longblock. Not what I would describe as a "blown" motor.

LoL, really, that's what your take away is? Cam and crank disagree on where each should be, sounds pretty blown. Then we have Calvo yanking destroyed bearings on 17s and we have 16s as well. Bottom line, no solution to any of these issues to date. That's my take away.

[7TH_SIGN]

Wow. A failed motor with only 82 miles on it!? What's even more shocking is that it's a 2017.

[Fatboy 18]

Wow. A failed motor with only 82 miles on it!? What's even more shocking is that it's a 2017.

Wonder if they remembered to put Oil in it?

[Fatboy 18]

I really fear for the guys that have taken a gamble and bought these cars outside of the USA.......Timebomb ticking? Who the Hell knows?

[Fatboy 18]

Here is the one from today

3 REPLACEMENT ENGINES?

Can anyone confirm that? That's frigging Nuts!

[7TH_SIGN]

3 REPLACEMENT ENGINES?

Can anyone confirm that? That's frigging Nuts!

Wonder if they remembered to put Oil in it?

It's just crazy. I wouldn't doubt that at all. That would be disappointing if it was true and he had three motor replacements.

[swexlin]

It's just crazy. I wouldn't doubt that at all. That would be disappointing if it was true and he had three motor replacements.

But how are 3 bad? In a row? That's the original and both replacements.

[Fatboy 18]

I know its hard to follow all the issues on these cars across so many different Social media websites. Also you have to sieve through the facts to try and work out whether someone is telling the truth but Geez! I am amazed the owner has not hit the Websites and unleashed Hell!

Can anyone confirm if that's actually true?

I only use the VOA Forum and do not go on Facebook or other social media sites like twitter of instagram, so I don't have much of a clue what happens over there!

[Goat19642004]

I just purchased a 2017 GTS. Keeping fingers crossed and buying an extended warranty!