Anyone try this stuff on headers

[ViperGeorge]

I was at SEMA and saw some insulation from Heatshield Products. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hsp-170202 It is an aluminum backed insulation capable of handling 1800 degrees of continuous heat or 2200 degrees intermittent. Literature says it can be wrapped around headers. I was thinking this might be a good insulation solution to those Gen 5 owners with headers. We know the havoc that header heat can cause to surrounding parts. I held this product at SEMA and it seems like you could form it around the header and secure with a wire. It is very form-able. This wouldn't be a tight wrap around the header pipes like an exhaust wrap. They tell me because of this and the air gap that would exist it will not cause the headers to corrode prematurely.

I know that some of us were pushing a vendor on here to build mittens for the different brands of headers but that has really happened and even if they were available installation would require removal of the headers. This stuff should be able to be formed around the header and then secured. Should be straight forward. Coupled with some of their (or someone else's) spark plug boots it should protect pretty much everything under the hood. They also have Muffler Armor (which may actually be the same stuff but in different sizes) that can be wrapped around mufflers and even Catalytic Converters.

So has anyone tried this stuff?

[v10CodeMonkey]

I seem to recall a thread on here where it was stated that heat wraps in general were actually bad for the headers, made them deteriorate I think. I can't find the thread tho, so take that info with a grain of salt lol.

[donk_316]

Search "heatshield products" on this forum. DIY and part numbers listed.

[Space Truckin]

Wrapping headers is not a good idea, I used Swain Tech Ceramic Coating....JM2C

[ViperGeorge]

Wrapping headers tightly with exhaust wrap is not a good idea. This stuff is not a wrap per say, it is more of a shield that can place a barrier between the headers and the surrounding stuff. It does not wrap the header pipes tightly. Reminds me of the heat exhaust manifold heat shields that came on Vipers.

[ViperPete]

DEI makes a similar product. You can see it in my Belanger Longtube exhaust "how to".

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...hoto-intensive

The Belanger instructions clearly state that if you wrap the headers, you will void the warranty on the Jet Hot coating and also ruin the coating in the process.

Let me tell ya though, i have not had any heat related issues at all with the headers. I only wrapped the areas that could be affected by heat.

[ViperGeorge]

DEI makes a similar product. You can see it in my Belanger Longtube exhaust "how to".

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...hoto-intensive

The Belanger instructions clearly state that if you wrap the headers, you will void the warranty on the Jet Hot coating and also ruin the coating in the process.

Let me tell ya though, i have not had any heat related issues at all with the headers. I only wrapped the areas that could be affected by heat.

DEI does make a similar product but the DEI product you show in the other thread isn't it. I have used that product and it is more like a cloth. The stuff I am talking about is actually insulation coated with a thin aluminum sheet. If you bend it, it will stay in the position to bent it to. It is more like a metallic sheet with an insulation backing. And it is good to a higher temp. In fact DEI's comparable product is not rated to as high a temperature. You could literally bend it around the pipes of the header and it will stay in that shape. Mind you it IS NOT a tight wrap, more of a shield. For this reason I don't believe it will hurt the pipes at all.

[ACR]

For the stock cast manifolds no chance in hell will you ruin them by blanketing with this. Mild steel coated, perhaps. Solid SS, perfectly fine

[Drlee50]

i have used that product. They make one that is metal on both sides and that white stuff in the center. thats the better stuff to get. the white stuff will fall apart over time. Just use it as a heat shield. Works really really well.

[ViperGeorge]

i have used that product. They make one that is metal on both sides and that white stuff in the center. thats the better stuff to get. the white stuff will fall apart over time. Just use it as a heat shield. Works really really well.

Great, I found the one you were talking about. It is called Inferno Shield and it comes in three ratings. The lowest is good for 900 degrees continuous, the middle one is good for 1800 degrees continuous, and the best one is good for 2200 degrees continuous. It can be bent, folded, and formed to any shape. It can be trimmed to make it smaller. comes in 6"x14", 14"x20", and 24"x36". Not all protection levels come in all sizes. I'm thinking that the 24"x36" 1800 degree shield would be good. I could trim it to fit both sides. Part number is Heatshield Products 120636. The 14"x20" 1800 degree part number is 120620.

[TrackAire]

I think all the products listed above are a major band aid that will not really help that much. From an engineering standpoint, this product seems to make the most sense:
http://headershield.com/


You send your headers to them and they get covered. The problem with a Viper is there isn't a lot of room...don't know how or if these would clear. I would also guess covering Viper headers would run about $600.00 or more to get done because of the size involved. But, the kind of covering they use has air pockets in the design....I think that is really what is needed for an effective temp reducing header cover.

I would think Jack B might have the best insight to this question.

[ViperGeorge]

I think all the products listed above are a major band aid that will not really help that much. From an engineering standpoint, this product seems to make the most sense:
http://headershield.com/


You send your headers to them and they get covered. The problem with a Viper is there isn't a lot of room...don't know how or if these would clear. I would also guess covering Viper headers would run about $600.00 or more to get done because of the size involved. But, the kind of covering they use has air pockets in the design....I think that is really what is needed for an effective temp reducing header cover.

I would think Jack B might have the best insight to this question.

That stuff looks good but it closely wraps the header pipes which, as I understand it, can cause corrosion to the pipes. The Heatshield stuff is very thin and does not wrap the pipes tightly. More of a shield and I think there is plenty of room to put the Inferno shield on the outside of the headers - shielding the important bits like harnesses and PDC from the heat.

[TrackAire]

That stuff looks good but it closely wraps the header pipes which, as I understand it, can cause corrosion to the pipes. The Heatshield stuff is very thin and does not wrap the pipes tightly. More of a shield and I think there is plenty of room to put the Inferno shield on the outside of the headers - shielding the important bits like harnesses and PDC from the heat.

The product can be had in thicknesses from 1/8" to 1/2" thick.

As little as Vipers are driven, I think corrosion or failure of quality stainless steel pipes or headers would take a very long time. At some point, you have to decide what is going to be sacrificed to protect something else or achieve your performance goals.

[Rocket]

Might also help to wrap/shield the clutch line for those that don't want to wrap the header.

[cubeman]

I'm surprised seeing people against wrapping their headers as it's really popular in the hot rod area. Never seen stainless headers fail because of it. I wrapped my cats/exhaust after the heat issue I had with them (American Racing). If I ever have the headers out, They'll get wrapped.

[Zubik]

I have heatshield exhaust shields on my belanger headers. Was pricey but can keep my hand almost touching the stuff after hours of driving the car. I like it

[Steve M]

I have heatshield exhaust shields on my belanger headers. Was pricey but can keep my hand almost touching the stuff after hours of driving the car. I like it

Got any pics?

[ViperGeorge]

I have heatshield exhaust shields on my belanger headers. Was pricey but can keep my hand almost touching the stuff after hours of driving the car. I like it

So please spill the beans - how much was it??? Inquiring minds want to know. I have been avoiding headers like the plague because of the heat and bad experiences with Belangers on my 2015 TA 2.0. Melted a bunch of stuff. I am skeptical that headers add any real power given the heat they subject the engine to. The PCM pulls timing when temps rise negating the benefits that the headers would otherwise provide. I've thought about Headershield but didn't know how much it cost.

[Jack B]

Find the thread by Arizona Viper, his results with wrapped headers were beyond excellent.

[Zubik]

I used two of their kits that come with two 18x24" sheets. It was barely enough. I spent a bunch of time mocking things up out of butcher paper. ~$350 ish for the two kits. This is on a gen 3 viper. I'm sure the header design is very similar as far as material needed. I didnt re-route any wiring, just put some heat tape/socks on them while I was there. Everything is a ok.

[ViperPete]

Looks space-age

[Jack B]

What is the diff between their black lava product and the posted product .

[SSNAKE]

Jet -Hot Coating was my solution

[Arizona Vipers]

Jet -Hot Coating was my solution

This did nothing for me. It drops your header temps from what, 1500* to 800*? lol. If you wrap your headers you can literally touch them after a session.