What are some basic mods that wont void warranty

[FLATOUT]

VE Active Suspension, DS Heatshield, UD Pulley, VE Big brake kit, Team Tech belts, VE Ti Catback, Braille battery, just a couple things I can think of real quick.

[Dman]

VE Active Suspension, DS Heatshield, UD Pulley, VE Big brake kit, Team Tech belts, VE Ti Catback, Braille battery, just a couple things I can think of real quick.

Andy, so you're saying these are mods that VE will guarantee FCA will not use to void your warranty, in writing? Or that you have this guidance already from FCA? Thx.

[ViperSmith]

Mark, so you're saying these are mods that VE will guarantee FCA will not use to void your warranty, in writing? Or that you have this guidance already from FCA? Thx.

Tony :-p

[sadil]

Mark, so you're saying these are mods that VE will guarantee FCA will not use to void your warranty, in writing? Or that you have this guidance already from FCA? Thx.

Nothing on that list besides the U/D pulley should effect engine warranty. I think that's pretty obvious.

Everything else on the car besides the stuff on the list should still be under warranty.

I'm pretty sure if you bought from VE and brought it in for an issue, you would be fine with those....

Somewhere else, well good luck.

[BJG32]

On a brighter note, most modifications will only void your warranty if something breaks, so you might be fine with everything. Or maybe not. It's best to think of it like a reverse lottery.

reverse lottery.... love it.

[ViperJon]

I'm pretty sure if you bought from VE and brought it in for an issue, you would be fine with those.....

That would be convenient for people across the US.

[Snorman]

VE Active Suspension, DS Heatshield, UD Pulley, VE Big brake kit, Team Tech belts, VE Ti Catback, Braille battery, just a couple things I can think of real quick.

Andy...do you have a VE BBK that's compatible with the ACR CCB knuckles?
S.

[sadil]

That would be convenient for people across the US.

Well the lack of FCA dealer support for the Viper has been well-documented. I think we can close that debate, it sucks.

Just don't see Dman (Mr I hate FCA) jumping on Andy for listing some great mods that wont void your warranty (besides U/D pulley).

It comes back to your dealer, if they know nothing about vipers, your screwed because they will document what they see and FCA will be looking for something to deny (which is not the dealer's fault).

In regards to brakes, suspension, seatbelts, and catback?? Com'n folks, who is really getting warranty denied for these things? Why are we wasting time on here fueling ridiculous fires.

I'm heavily against the dealer network in general, but if that is what we have to live with, then supporting good dealers is the right thing to do for now.

[texasram]

VE Active Suspension, DS Heatshield, UD Pulley, VE Big brake kit, Team Tech belts, VE Ti Catback, Braille battery, just a couple things I can think of real quick.

This is pretty much along the lines of what i was thinking

[BJG32]

Well the lack of FCA dealer support for the Viper has been well-documented. I think we can close that debate, it sucks.

Just don't see Dman (Mr I hate FCA) jumping on Andy for listing some great mods that wont void your warranty (besides U/D pulley).

It comes back to your dealer, if they know nothing about vipers, your screwed because they will document what they see and FCA will be looking for something to deny (which is not the dealer's fault).

In regards to brakes, suspension, seatbelts, and catback?? Com'n folks, who is really getting warranty denied for these things? Why are we wasting time on here fueling ridiculous fires.

I'm heavily against the dealer network in general, but if that is what we have to live with, then supporting good dealers is the right thing to do for now.

I had my yellowing white paint denied September of 2015 for having highflows on. I installed the highflows to stop the yellowing. There is absolutely reason to believe exhaust mod's could void at least part of your warranty.

However, this was the same time I had my engine blow. They covered the engine with the high-flows installed, but alot has changed since then.

Here is what I would do.....If you decide to mod your exhaust I would keep all stock parts. Worst case, If you blow an engine, tow the car home, put the stock parts back on, and tow/ship to the best dealer you can afford to get your car to.

[The_Ruski_Driver]

UD pulley voiding warranty? GET OUT OF HERE cmon guys no it won't. The poor guy wants to make his car cool and you're attacking him. I was gonna do UD and catback myself for a few ponies as well

[Martin]

I'm even starting to worry about getting a clear wrap on the car because someone at FCA might say "oops, you put a clear wrap on - that voided your paint warranty..."

[The_Ruski_Driver]

I'm even starting to worry about getting a clear wrap on the car because someone at FCA might say "oops, you put a clear wrap on - that voided your paint warranty..."

What's a paint warranty??

[Martin]

What's a paint warranty??

I don't know what category it falls under (corrosion or bumper to bumper, perhaps?), but there have been cases of paint bubbling up, discoloring, or otherwise having manufacturing defects that people have had to get fixed. I have personal experience with paint defects on both my Gen II and Gen IV.

[BJG32]

What's a paint warranty??

If something goes wrong with your paint you should be covered under the warranty. The stock cats bake the hell out of the sills. Browning paint is very common. If you happen to have clear wrap on the browning area, who knows what they'll say.

See post #35 for my experience.

[esm_viper]

Andy...do you have a VE BBK that's compatible with the ACR CCB knuckles?
S.

Here you go.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...-RB-Iron-Rotor

[7TH_SIGN]

We all know basic boltons like exhaust, headers, intake should not void warranties. I think altering the stock PCM carries a higher risk of warranty denial (so long as the PCM caused the failure which in the GEN V and Arrow case we know it did not).

I read some people saying that if your car clears a certain mileage it is safe. I disagree and until we get a clear acknowledgement from FCA on what is truly causing these failures, there is no "safe mileage mark". Parts can fail at anytime for any reason. What you have to ask yourself is will FCA cover it under warranty.

However with what we have seen other members go through with their failed motors and FCAs refusal to cover it, I would highly recommend you leave the car completely stock when it comes to power modifications. At least until your warranty runs out or your willing to either:

1. Fight to the death should your engine fail and FCA denies warranty coverage (lemon law, arbitration, court)
2. Your willing to come out of pocket for a rebuild
3. The modification can be uninstalled and car put back to stock form without FCA knowing about the mod. This can be risky as any trained tech could notice the reverting to factory parts (this can't be done with a Arrow PCM)


You can do all the appearance mods you would like, they cant deny a failed motor due to canards or body parts you installed and if they try to they will have an extremely difficult time doing so and fail.

I've received a lot of PMs about owners and their issues with the paint on their GEN Vs. If you have this issue don't bother contacting FCA, they will drag it out for months and it will be a very frustrating experience. Go straight to Prefix, they really care and stand behind their work. They will cover the paint issue and you won't have to come out of pocket one cent unless you want to ship the car to them. They are the definition and example of a perfect customer service experience. I can't say enough good things about Prefix. FCA on the other hand...... Well you already know.

[Dman]

Well the lack of FCA dealer support for the Viper has been well-documented. I think we can close that debate, it sucks.

Just don't see Dman (Mr I hate FCA) jumping on Andy for listing some great mods that wont void your warranty (besides U/D pulley).

It comes back to your dealer, if they know nothing about vipers, your screwed because they will document what they see and FCA will be looking for something to deny (which is not the dealer's fault).

In regards to brakes, suspension, seatbelts, and catback?? Com'n folks, who is really getting warranty denied for these things? Why are we wasting time on here fueling ridiculous fires.

I'm heavily against the dealer network in general, but if that is what we have to live with, then supporting good dealers is the right thing to do for now.

Too funny, in one part of the sentence you try to bash me for bashing Andy, and then second part of sentence you say he's indeed wrong. Hey, Sadil, stop bashing Andy. ;-P

For the record, I love Mark, in a manly sort of way. I'm asking, for example, I put a different suspension on the car, my diff whines & needs replaced, he's listing that as a safe mod, will VE assure me that FCA will replace my diff, which we know they have issues with, even with an excuse of having changed something that could indeed impact it? Again, they don't need to prove the suspension caused the diff to whine, or there to be ample evidence of stock setups failing - that's just like the bearing issue. Not sure how this is obtuse, if they will do this, then we have a stand up dealer who can give us a mods list with 100% assurance we can do those mods, many would like to know that and I'm sure take advantage of those mods that are safe. That's nor "hating on FCA", whatever that means, that's me asking for the club so we know the real options, which is what this thread is about per the OP.

[John N]

Ummmm....by Mark do you mean Andy???? Everyone knows bashing Mark is entirely different than bashing Andy.

[Snorman]

Here you go.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...-RB-Iron-Rotor

Yes, but as far as I know, RB doesn't offer a rear conversion.
S.

[Dman]

Ummmm....by Mark do you mean Andy???? Everyone knows bashing Mark is entirely different than bashing Andy.

Yes, yes I do, and, yes, you're right. lol

I was texting my friend Mark when on the forum, must've crossed my flux capacitor oblongata and typed Mark. Doh.

[FLATOUT]

Yes, but as far as I know, RB doesn't offer a rear conversion.
S.

No sir we do not. Only for the non ACR knuckle cars. Do have a rotor replacement coming for the carbon ceramics soon that won't break the bank.

[FLATOUT]

Andy, so you're saying these are mods that VE will guarantee FCA will not use to void your warranty, in writing? Or that you have this guidance already from FCA? Thx.

Not garunteeing anything in the current environment. I sneezed in my 15 yesterday and was waiting for a black ops team to swoop in and take the car away.

People should leave their car stock if they're that worried.

[Magzx12r]

VE Active Suspension, DS Heatshield, UD Pulley, VE Big brake kit, Team Tech belts, VE Ti Catback, Braille battery, just a couple things I can think of real quick.

Andy,
Do you keep the Ti cat back in stock? How long to install?

[Terminator02]

Andy,
Do you keep the Ti cat back in stock? How long to install?

I have it and it's awesome. I can't discuss how it sounds alone but in combination with the head and cam work I think it's part of the reason my set up gets so many compliments. The weight savings alone are great and price is pretty fair when considering the price of non Ti cats.