Most Collectible Viper

[46hemi]

Yeah I agree slither. I would think If you have an ACR with low miles no stories you should be "ok" in relative terms - no matter what happens they still only made some 800 of them although the 2 on Ebay cant seem to sell and they are at ask of 70k. A stupid 2006 Wrangler Rubicon can brink 25k all day long with 50k miles so there is no explaining.

Will be interesting to see how this one ends up.
One owner - 615 miles GTS-R. They have been hovering around the same price for a while now but it could see an uptick with the plant actually closing. Could be a good barometer of sorts.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-26...e-viper-gts-r/

[ViperJon]

although the 2 on Ebay cant seem to sell and they are at ask of 70k. [/url]

Are you referring to Gen IV ACR's?

[46hemi]

No the Gen II's. Both 01's, stock and low miles (1k and 3k)

[Granger73]

True enough, but i personally don't think a viper built through a dealership with a few extra cosmetic variations would become a collectible. Maybe fetch a few dollars more than a stock OEM version but nothing close to what some of the iconic most are alive, they wouldn't reach anything close to the dollars Vettes and mustangs hit. I don't think so anyways.

Anyone looking for a 1986 "Malcom Kohner" Corvette special edition? Once again you cannot underestimate the effect the NCRS has had on Corvette prices. They were/are the driving force that made some Corvette owners very wealthy. When I collected Corvettes my number one requirement was "solid lifters." I believe that performance will still be the main factor and the ACR cars will have an edge."

[BrianACR]

I like to think that the ACR's will have that little edge in terms of collectibility. Especially the GenII's....
But maybe I am just a little bit biased in that opinion.

[ACRSNK]

VIPER EATING MONSTROSITY

Wow...pretty cool

[harley56]

Yeah I agree slither. I would think If you have an ACR with low miles no stories you should be "ok" in relative terms - no matter what happens they still only made some 800 of them although the 2 on Ebay cant seem to sell and they are at ask of 70k. A stupid 2006 Wrangler Rubicon can brink 25k all day long with 50k miles so there is no explaining.

Will be interesting to see how this one ends up.
One owner - 615 miles GTS-R. They have been hovering around the same price for a while now but it could see an uptick with the plant actually closing. Could be a good barometer of sorts.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-26...e-viper-gts-r/

46 hemi - Will be interesting to see what it goes for. This one sold earlier this year with 421 miles for $90,000 + Buyers fees. https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0516-24...e-viper-gts-r/

I sold mine w/1000 miles approx. five years ago to Viper Exchange for $122,500. They still have not returned to that value.

[SlowPoke McGee]

Would love to hear member's opinions on this subject. I think it's safe to assume Vipers will start to appreciate after production is discontinued. With this in mind, If you only had space to store one Viper, which year/model do you think will see the most appreciation in the next 5 years?
My vote is the 92 RT/10.

Ok, I take this prediction back. Granted I haven't checked the VIN on this car but if $30,200 is all this 5,579 mile 1992 Viper http://www.ebay.ca/itm/322333933848?ul_noapp=true can fetch on Ebay, what more can I say but

Who knows, maybe the price will spike in next 6 hours

[Granger73]

$32,400.00 no sale. Very disheartening for Viper owners in general, and '92 owners in particular. The car looked like an honest car and it is very puzzling to see a '92 go for that price. I still believe it's a strong car, but it sure was a setback. I hope it's not a statement by the market of things to come.

[SlowPoke McGee]

$32,400.00 no sale. Very disheartening for Viper owners in general, and '92 owners in particular. The car looked like an honest car and it is very puzzling to see a '92 go for that price. I still believe it's a strong car, but it sure was a setback. I hope it's not a statement by the market of things to come.

You're bang on. It's very disheartening, indeed. Not sure you'll find a much better example of a 92. I've been getting a bad feeling lately as I watch the markets in general that there is a general down hill trend in pricing/interest. I know the economy here in Canada is in the crap hole which would feed into this.....is the overall US economy sour right now? Honestly, I haven't seen a 92 for sale in ages, so this one came as a shock...

[SlowPoke McGee]

You're bang on. It's very disheartening, indeed. Not sure you'll find a much better example of a 92. I've been getting a bad feeling lately as I watch the markets in general that there is a general down hill trend in pricing/interest. I know the economy here in Canada is in the crap hole which would feed into this.....is the overall US economy sour right now? Honestly, I haven't seen a 92 for sale in ages, so this one came as a shock...

Also guys like Dave6666 are inevitably driving prices down through their inane and sophomoric blatherings.... but I digress...

[Rxmfn7]

An uptick in pricing can be a bit of a double-edged sword.. depending on what you want to do and how you enjoy the vehicle. I guess it would be cool if my car all of a sudden doubled in value, but honestly then I probably wouldn't want to drive/modify it and would just end up selling it. I don't think there is any question that the cars will eventually gain value,(compared to current pricing) but IMO it wont be for a while longer. Ill happily "ruin" mine with go-fast goodies and driving it like an idiot in the meantime.

[Canuck]

$32,400.00 no sale. The car looked like an honest car and it is very puzzling to see a '92 go for that price. I still believe it's a strong car, but it sure was a setback.

Tough to be a seller with zero feedback score on ebay trying to convince someone to shell out an average salary on someone with no past history. Yes there is a ebay warranty but not cover all of the out of pocket losses of dealing with a time waster.

Put the same car up by a trusted seller like BJ motors and its a different story:
http://www.bjmotors.biz/vehicle-deta...tx-id-10206135

What did that BJ chassis #199 sell for? I think it was listed in the 50-60K US range, and I think it was on here somewhere before BJ bought it.

[Bill Pemberton]

Guys ,

The 92 and 93s have not been going for big money , but the 32K is actually not something going in the wrong direction, as most in the past have not even gone for this. These cars are almost a perfect example of the 53-54 Corvette that languished for 50 years worth zip and then they took off. Be patient and not too concerned , as these are destined for big money when the folks that have a Gen II , Gen III, Gen IV and Gen V in their collection , realize there are not any early year Gen Is in their repertoire. It will happen , hard for most buyers to spend 40-50K when that will buy a nice Gen II or Gen III.

August of 2017 , the Viper stops , and what will individuals have to do when the car is no more ??? Low numbers of the 92s and 93s will start dictating prices in the future. Heck , I have collectors who are just now buying their first Viper ( Gen V) , and I have faith in the Snake that they will be bitten and want more Generations after that.

Slither,

Hello ??? The ACR Convertible was built 100% by the folks at CAAP ( not Woodhouse ) , has it's own Dodge internal code --might be a reason some Execs at FCA would highly disagree with you. May have been our idea, but done through SRT and even involved them taking it to the wind tunnel for the unique rear wing. Nuff said.

[BrianACR]

I didn't buy my Viper as an investment, I bought it to drive it and have fun. And cuz it's my dream car. If it happens to go up in value, well then lucky me If it doesn't appreciate at all, I am just fine with that too. I'm going to keep driving and enjoying my Viper for as long as I can. But I might hafta look at maybe finding a GenI just in case....

[Lemay88]

I didn't buy my Viper as an investment, I bought it to drive it and have fun. And cuz it's my dream car. If it happens to go up in value, well then lucky me If it doesn't appreciate at all, I am just fine with that too. I'm going to keep driving and enjoying my Viper for as long as I can. But I might hafta look at maybe finding a GenI just in case....

Same for me except for the Gen 1 has mine is a gen2 and exactly what I wanted... Don't intend to sell it, will pass it on to my kids and hope they will keep it running and keep it in the family for as long as there is fossile fuel to burn...

[MacGyvers Mullet]

I didn't buy my Viper as an investment, I bought it to drive it and have fun. And cuz it's my dream car. If it happens to go up in value, well then lucky me If it doesn't appreciate at all, I am just fine with that too. I'm going to keep driving and enjoying my Viper for as long as I can. But I might hafta look at maybe finding a GenI just in case....

Same here. My 96 GTS just went over 40K and I was actually happy, knowing that I enjoyed all those miles. Some people would have had an aneurysm seeing it roll into "high mileage" (which is ridiculous to consider 40K high mileage).

Anyhow, to anyone who worries about current prices, give it a few years. Look at cars that were not necessarily collectible (and sometimes laughed at), but have suddenly skyrocketed in the past couple of years: Ferrari 308 and 355's, Camaro IROC's, Bandit Trans-AM's, FC RX7 Turbos, Older Porsche 911's and 928's, NSX's, etc...

Most of those models are either older or just as old as our Viper's. Give it 5-10 years and you may see the sudden spike you are looking for. The market is defined by both demand and by us not selling them at rock bottom prices. Those will soon align and the prices will go up. Enjoy the fact that you are a viper owner in the meantime.

Also, since the cars are somewhat cheap, it welcomes in the people that always dreamed about them, for better or worse. These will include people that can't afford to maintain them and the crowd that will wreck them. This will lessen the desirable cars, which will also drive prices up. FD RX7's and MK4 Supras are a decent example of this. People now pay a huge premium for 100% stock examples, since most are maligned by gross body kits and half-assed go fast projects that never went well. The same will happen with the vipers, as seen by some very questionable examples that pass through eBay.

[SlowPoke McGee]

All I know is it's a messed up market when a 96 GTS with a rebuilt title (which are a dime a dozen on ebay) is commanding close to the same interest and enthusiasm as an ultra rare 92. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Dodge-V...m=132011652300

Just gotta shake my head...

[MacGyvers Mullet]

All I know is it's a messed up market when a 96 GTS with a rebuilt title (which are a dime a dozen on ebay) is commanding close to the same interest and enthusiasm as an ultra rare 92. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Dodge-V...m=132011652300

Just gotta shake my head...

This is just the general public effect, which you should never get insulted by. Most people do not know the production numbers of any year and just buy what they like. These are the same people punching each other for a cheap HDTV on black Friday, when they could easily sit at home and buy the same TV on Amazon at the same price. This happens with all makes/models across all years for a given amount of time. The real collectors will come out of the woodwork eventually and seek out the low production numbered cars. If you take it by a day by day basis, you will pull your hair out

[ACRSNK]

$32,400.00 no sale. Very disheartening for Viper owners in general, and '92 owners in particular. The car looked like an honest car and it is very puzzling to see a '92 go for that price. I still believe it's a strong car, but it sure was a setback. I hope it's not a statement by the market of things to come.

Is this chassis #165? I might be wrong, but doesn't this particular car have a theft recovery in its history? That could be part of the reason for the low number. I don't think it comes with the black binder or window sticker either. All things that detract from value. There are some recent sales in the mid $40's like the one that Greene Ford had for sale. The clean no story cars are still bringing the money.

[Granger73]

It is VIN#165, but the history is clear, although it does have a duplicate title issued. I think window stickers are less important on these cars as there were no options available, and the build info can easily be obtained from Chrysler. I would wager half the '92's don't have the valise, but they are available so that shouldn't impact the selling price by much.

[v10enomous]

Up for sale this lower mileage 1 of 2 1999 Silver Blue ACR with radio delete. Maybe not the "most" collectible but a good one to have as a collectible.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/srtv...76485165867050

[plumcrazy]

True enough, but i personally don't think a viper built through a dealership with a few extra cosmetic variations would become a collectible. Maybe fetch a few dollars more than a stock OEM version but nothing close to what some of the iconic and color combo versions would fetch.

yeah id hate to have a yenko camaro or nova https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yenko_Chevrolet
or
any of mr norms mopars

[J TNT]

yeah id hate to have a yenko camaro or nova https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yenko_Chevrolet
or
any of mr norms mopars

lol ! Good point Plum !!! Seems like some are unaware of these Classics .

[ACRSNK]

It is VIN#165, but the history is clear, although it does have a duplicate title issued. I think window stickers are less important on these cars as there were no options available, and the build info can easily be obtained from Chrysler. I would wager half the '92's don't have the valise, but they are available so that shouldn't impact the selling price by much.

I think any collector for a nice 92 is going to want the window sticker and black binder, which is getting extremely hard to find along with date coded 92 windows.