Most Collectible Viper

[Drummerviper]

Not a 91 , but close. LOL

[Fatboy 18]

No mention of the Autoform/ Woodhouse 91 commemorative GTS Cars? must be junk then?

These 3 are the best.....Might be a bit biased

[Vprbite]

My viper list as cars I plan to own and possibly keep:

1. 2010 SSG/Black ACR (1 of 30) because that's my all time favourite colour of Viper.
2. 2014 Black TA

I honestly don't believe the astronomical appreciation as seen on select 50's and 60's cars will be replicated. Too many hosers storing cars hoping for "that day when".

I buy cars because I like to drive cars. If they appreciate, or don't depreciate, bonus.

/the end.

Remember with those 60s muscle cars, barely anyone just parked them. They got driven on dirt roads sprayed with oil, salt roads in winter, left out in the rain, etc. so people looking to buy one now have a pretty small pool of good cars around and most are rebuilt if technically still original. Most of the higher mileage cars around here are still treated and maintained very well. That may put a cap on astronomical type values. I still believe they will appreciate. But hard to tell by how much exactly.

[Boosted Motorsports]

Remember with those 60s muscle cars, barely anyone just parked them. They got driven on dirt roads sprayed with oil, salt roads in winter, left out in the rain, etc. so people looking to buy one now have a pretty small pool of good cars around and most are rebuilt if technically still original. Most of the higher mileage cars around here are still treated and maintained very well. That may put a cap on astronomical type values. I still believe they will appreciate. But hard to tell by how much exactly.

I feel the same way. That most people "back in the day" just bought and drove their cars (with some exceptions of course that are selling for the premium prices). Today there are all sorts of people buying vehicles and parking with hopes of an investment, being conscious of how much they drive and what conditions/elements they expose the vehicle to. This creates a large group of vehicles in great shape to be had down the road. I'm not implying that there is a right or wrong way to own a vehicle but I would guess there are more cars being preserved today for tomorrow than there was 40-50 years ago.

[MacGyvers Mullet]

The "getting will be good" forever, there are 28K+ Vipers made of every description.

Eh. Sure, but subtract out the number of vehicles that aren't on the road anymore and how many have declined past collectible status. Then add in the fact that only certain people want to buy certain years and particular combos. I personally wouldn't buy a gen 3/4, so my choices are already limited right off the bat. I would spend more money on a particular gen II over the others, so that factors in as well. All of this will hold true for any future buyer, so the total amount of cars produced becomes a moot point.

As stated above (or in another thread like this...they all blend in), the 67 Camaro saw 220,000 units produced...in one year. Even if you dwindle that down to SS models, it is still at 34,000 or so. That's a single year, still more than our entire span and those things are a decent chuck of change. Do the same math with any collectible that goes across the auction block. It will just take time with our cars, like every other car out there.

The getting won't be good forever. The desirable Vipers that people have been listing off in this thread will be tough to pick up for today's prices in 10 years. It will just get worse from there.

[Leslie]

2000 Vipers should be up there, The First year of the Creampuff with Special Silicone Pistons. Fast Red models demand a higher price

Least desirable year, just my opinion.

[RedTanRT/10]

To the question, Most Collectible Viper?

Viper GTS-R chassis number C7

Oreca Team Viper, Le Mans winning car from 1998. In 2000 placed in the Walter P. Chrysler Museum. This is the car that spawned the 1998 street GTS-R.

This car would easily bring 7 figures.


Runner up, GTSR-C21, Oreca Team Viper, Daytona 24 Hours 2000 overall winner.

[SnaakeBit]

To the question, Most Collectible Viper?

Viper GTS-R chassis number C7

Oreca Team Viper, Le Mans winning car from 1998. In 2000 placed in the Walter P. Chrysler Museum. This is the car that spawned the 1998 street GTS-R.

This car would easily bring 7 figures.


Runner up, GTSR-C21, Oreca Team Viper, Daytona 24 Hours 2000 overall winner.

Have to agree!

[Fatboy 18]

Least desirable year, just my opinion.

My post was meant to be sarcastic

[BRACR]

You are going to have to throw in the VCA raffle cars as well as the others mentioned.

[slitherv10]

I dont think any 1 of anything Vipers will be collectibles as there are way too many 1 of this and 1 of that. With all the 1 off Gen 5's and loads of 1 of 10 1 of 20 and 1 of 30 etc...these types will not fetch a premium. Every year Viper has a 1 0f something if not a 1 of 1.

The Shelby Editions will definitely fetch big dollars.

The 96 Blue and white will also fetch a premium as it will be the grandfather that made the mould and set the bar.

The Gen 1's are not really desired now and i don't think will then either.

The ACR's no matter what year will fetch premiums especially the hardcore and iconic color combo versions that set the records at the tracks in certain years.

The RT/10's although there are rare ones her and there, just like the Gen 1's when they hit the staqe in the future will not OUU or AHH anyone.

NO one remembers the nice looking cars, they remember iconic ones with color combos, body styles and performance. Gen 1's, 3's and RT/10s are nice cars but not ahh inspiring as are the ones i mention above.

Just my opinion. I do think all Vipers are gorgeous stand outs, but as collectibles most will not make the grade.

[ACRSNK]

Coloviper...Curious which "six figure" Saleen you have?

[Bill Pemberton]

Correct, the 20 Woodhouse Edition ACR Convertibles still have the distinction of the lowest production model built by Dodge/SRT. Though an idea from Woodhouse , the entire build , execution, wind tunnel , etc. was done by SRT and it has it's own distinct build code , etc. Therefore the cars ( done in 4 colors ) are not merely a one of one concept , but a unique model within the framework of Coupe, convertible, ACR, RT-10 ,etc. Not our words , but due to the work done by the SRT Engineers to make sure the car would work with the ACR suspension ( special wing was built for the car for instance) ,etc. a few FCA employees expressed to us that it likely could be the most valuable Viper model ever built ?

Have to believe the Shelby models and the Daytona Editions ( done by Autoform and us ) have an interesting place, as they were approved models ( from Shelby and from Daytona International Speedway) done by Dealers and are special in the way Yenko Stingers, etc. are viewed in today's market. Just my personal opinion of course.

The 92 and early 93 Vipers remind me of the 53 and 54 Corvettes. They languished for years and years until collectors realized they were the only generation missing in their group of Vettes and then overnight they went through the roof.

[J TNT]

Good point Bill on all accounts ! .

[harley56]

I remember going to my local Dodge Dealer and staring at a 92 RT/10 - wow it was cool. Fast forward, I was in Reno and the MGM Grand was hosting a Sports Car Race, think it was IMSA, but may been Trans Am. Anyway, Dodge had a '96 Viper GTS there and I thought that was the coolest new car I had ever seen, reminded me of the Shelby Daytona Coupe. I think others have the passion I had, and still have for the '96 GTS and would rank it right near the top in future appreciation. My first one recently sold as I found and purchased another '96 GTS with 1200 miles - Dave6666 please no comments - this one has been stored and used properly.

Was also fortunate to own #48 '98 GTSR w/1000 miles. Sold that, would be nice to still have, but sold for more than it is worth as of yet.

Anyway, those two would be in my top 5 of future appreciation. They are also two of my favorite Vipers ever, but then the damn Gen V ACR's appeared!!! Some of those color configurations you guys come up with leave me drooling.

[Coloviper]

Coloviper...Curious which "six figure" Saleen you have?

I have owned the 1995 S351R "BASF Mystic Edition" Speedster, #95-0010 for the past 15 years. This is the SEMA and NACE National Poster car. I do get a couple of solid offers right at six figures every year but the car is worth a little bit more. The other car is the 1996 S281C SVT Mystic Supercharged Cobra Coupe. They are the only two true Mystic Saleens in existence. The other Saleen color cars are the BASF Extreme variants and Dupont Mystichrome colors.

[ACRSNK]

I have owned the 1995 S351R "BASF Mystic Edition" Speedster, #95-0010 for the past 15 years. This is the SEMA and NACE National Poster car. I do get a couple of solid offers right at six figures every year but the car is worth a little bit more. The other car is the 1996 S281C SVT Mystic Supercharged Cobra Coupe. They are the only two true Mystic Saleens in existence. The other Saleen color cars are the BASF Extreme variants and Dupont Mystichrome colors.

$100K for a 95 S351?!!!!! Never seen it regardless of color, but I guess you can ask what you want if you have the only one. I always liked the new edge 99 351's. My buddy has one that I may be buying off him sometime soon. I know this is a Viper forum, but you should post a pic. I'm sure we aren't the only 2 that like Saleens on here.

[Viper Red]

Pop quiz

Which of these cars is the most collectable?

997 GT2
991 GT3
991 Turbo
Viper RT/10

[zee]

I regret selling my 97 B/W RT/10. I knew at the time I would regret it too but I wanted to try out other cars. No way I could have kept it along with what I wanted. Glad I got to experience it for a few years. Definitely a very special car.

[Vprbite]

Correct, the 20 Woodhouse Edition ACR Convertibles still have the distinction of the lowest production model built by Dodge/SRT. Though an idea from Woodhouse , the entire build , execution, wind tunnel , etc. was done by SRT and it has it's own distinct build code , etc. Therefore the cars ( done in 4 colors ) are not merely a one of one concept , but a unique model within the framework of Coupe, convertible, ACR, RT-10 ,etc. Not our words , but due to the work done by the SRT Engineers to make sure the car would work with the ACR suspension ( special wing was built for the car for instance) ,etc. a few FCA employees expressed to us that it likely could be the most valuable Viper model ever built ?

Have to believe the Shelby models and the Daytona Editions ( done by Autoform and us ) have an interesting place, as they were approved models ( from Shelby and from Daytona International Speedway) done by Dealers and are special in the way Yenko Stingers, etc. are viewed in today's market. Just my personal opinion of course.

The 92 and early 93 Vipers remind me of the 53 and 54 Corvettes. They languished for years and years until collectors realized they were the only generation missing in their group of Vettes and then overnight they went through the roof.

Lest we forget, Sylvester Stallone owned a vert ACR. If its good enough for rocky balboa it's good enough for me. Well, rocky from the first 4 movies at last, not 5 and 6.

[Vprbite]

I think it will be my 1 of 1 very rare 1991 Viper.
If it's printed in the newspaper it has to be true, right?

91s are worth almost as much as 07s. People don't want to part with them thouh as I never see one for sale.

I love the GTS and would still have one if that minivan didn't cross that double yellow. And the only reason I switched was I thought maybe it was time for a change with all that happened. Anyway, as desireable as the 96 GTS is, I think a good, low mileage 92 will always be the one that started it all. Had that car not knocked the performamce car world on its ass we wouldn't be here talking about this at all. It is a key piece of automotive history. Obviously, just my opinion.

[BrianACR]

Pop quiz

Which of these cars is the most collectable?

997 GT2
991 GT3
991 Turbo
Viper RT/10

In my mind, the Viper!! But in reality, it's gonna be the GT2.

[Coloviper]

$100K for a 95 S351?!!!!! Never seen it regardless of color, but I guess you can ask what you want if you have the only one. I always liked the new edge 99 351's. My buddy has one that I may be buying off him sometime soon. I know this is a Viper forum, but you should post a pic. I'm sure we aren't the only 2 that like Saleens on here.

Don't want to hijack the thread so will just provide a quick response here. Reality is, yes $100k+ for a 95' S351R but it is in no way shape or form, a run of the mill 95'. This is the BASF S351R that was owned by BASF/Ford/Saleen/Dunlop and unveiled at SEMA and NACE in 1995. The first Mystic (True BASF Mystic) painted Ford Mustang and only Mystic convertible produced that spawn the 2000, 1996 Mystic Cobra Coupes from Ford. It is the giveaway BASF Horse of a Different Color" sweepstakes car. It has the prototype Ford Mustang parts, Carbon Fiber World Challenge race parts (on a convertible none the less), factory 408 blown stroker, First production Mustang with 19" rims at the time, etc., etc. So many industry first for that car including the first multi-hue commercial paint job on an automobile world wide to use that technology, which was the exact same technology and pigment used in the $100 US bill watermark at the time. too busy to post a picture but you can go to EBAY and buy the National poster. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saleen-Musta...-/112093700142

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The 99 S351Rs are going up in value right now so better buy now. The key 90-93 SCs, 93' SA-10s, 93' RRR, 94-98 SRs some have already very, very recently traded hands just above $100k. The race cars are already well into six figures. Those that know, know. Trust me, now is the time on those specific cars. Anything above 99' for Saleen is going to be a while as they are still dropping. Some are basket cases out there and the ones that are not butchered but only missing bolt on pieces and well optioned or unique are the ones to nab up right now because the prices have been steadily going up the past 4 years on trend right now.

Now back to the real OP question on Viper collectability!

[Boosted Motorsports]

VIPER EATING MONSTROSITY

Don't want to hijack the thread so will just provide a quick response here. Reality is, yes $100k+ for a 95' S351R but it is in no way shape or form, a run of the mill 95'. This is the BASF S351R that was owned by BASF/Ford/Saleen/Dunlop and unveiled at SEMA and NACE in 1995. The first Mystic (True BASF Mystic) painted Ford Mustang and only Mystic convertible produced that spawn the 2000, 1996 Mystic Cobra Coupes from Ford. It is the giveaway BASF Horse of a Different Color" sweepstakes car. It has the prototype Ford Mustang parts, Carbon Fiber World Challenge race parts (on a convertible none the less), factory 408 blown stroker, First production Mustang with 19" rims at the time, etc., etc. So many industry first for that car including the first multi-hue commercial paint job on an automobile world wide to use that technology, which was the exact same technology and pigment used in the $100 US bill watermark at the time. too busy to post a picture but you can go to EBAY and buy the National poster. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saleen-Musta...-/112093700142

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The 99 S351Rs are going up in value right now so better buy now. The key 90-93 SCs, 93' SA-10s, 93' RRR, 94-98 SRs some have already very, very recently traded hands just above $100k. The race cars are already well into six figures. Those that know, know. Trust me, now is the time on those specific cars. Anything above 99' for Saleen is going to be a while as they are still dropping. Some are basket cases out there and the ones that are not butchered but only missing bolt on pieces and well optioned or unique are the ones to nab up right now because the prices have been steadily going up the past 4 years on trend right now.

Now back to the real OP question on Viper collectability!

[slitherv10]

Correct, the 20 Woodhouse Edition ACR Convertibles still have the distinction of the lowest production model built by Dodge/SRT. Though an idea from Woodhouse , the entire build , execution, wind tunnel , etc. was done by SRT and it has it's own distinct build code , etc. Therefore the cars ( done in 4 colors ) are not merely a one of one concept , but a unique model within the framework of Coupe, convertible, ACR, RT-10 ,etc. Not our words , but due to the work done by the SRT Engineers to make sure the car would work with the ACR suspension ( special wing was built for the car for instance) ,etc. a few FCA employees expressed to us that it likely could be the most valuable Viper model ever built ?

Have to believe the Shelby models and the Daytona Editions ( done by Autoform and us ) have an interesting place, as they were approved models ( from Shelby and from Daytona International Speedway) done by Dealers and are special in the way Yenko Stingers, etc. are viewed in today's market. Just my personal opinion of course.

The 92 and early 93 Vipers remind me of the 53 and 54 Corvettes. They languished for years and years until collectors realized they were the only generation missing in their group of Vettes and then overnight they went through the roof.

True enough, but i personally don't think a viper built through a dealership with a few extra cosmetic variations would become a collectible. Maybe fetch a few dollars more than a stock OEM version but nothing close to what some of the iconic and color combo versions would fetch. Sure a 69 mustang fetches good dollars today and so as you say a 53-54 Corvette but, after 50 years any performance car of its time will fetch big dollars. Especially when your talking Corvette. Vipers will not follow the same collectible system as the Corvette. Corvettes have huge followers and years of models and variations. Vipers do not. If they did, they would not be discontinued.
People will collect them becasue of their rarity not the love for the car as does the Corvette. If all 10,000 owners of Vipers decided to collect in 30 years, if most are alive, they wouldn't reach anything close to the dollars Vettes and mustangs hit. I don't think so anyways.

I still think the color combos, ACRS and Shelby Versions will hit real collectible status with some of the Comp Coupes and The military edition catching real collectors dollars. Otherwise after 50 years of course they will fetch more money no matter what color style or Gen. By then the Toyota Celica will also be worth big dollars. If any of the upcoming Generations of Children will even care. Who knows