Most Collectible Viper

[BJG32]

True story....Somebody just bought a 180k ACRE from Gerry Wood with the intention of parking it! Dave is going to blow a gasket!

Here is an on topic off topic question. If someone in the 2017 model year builds the most expensive viper in history will that alone make it more valuable?

[BlknBlu]

I am always intrigued with threads like this and who believes what is worth more over another car. This is no a driving thread or racing thread but a collectible thread.

I would have to think the ACR verts and GTS-R cars will always demand a premium.

Bruce

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1992
1995/1996 Shelby
1996 GTS B/W
1996 GTS W/B (3 made)
1997 RT/10 B/W (53 made)
1998 GTS-R (100 made)
1999 GTS ACR
2000 RT/10 ACR (1 made)
2002 Final Edition ACR

[Drummerviper]

I have had every Gen except 5 (ordered and cancelled).

For driving and looks I would take a Gen 2. I am biased, but I think 92s will be very collectable. Very similar numbers, etc., as first year 53 Vettes.

[Coloviper]

1992 will be the first to push it! Whether they are the same look and feel as a 1993-1995 in red doesn't matter. What makes a 1969 Mach 1 with a factory R-Code VIN worth more than a even better put together refurbished 1969 Mach 1 with a period correct 428 SCJ in it but is really a Q-code 390 VIN or whatever. The clone may even be a much better car and restoration but will still lose out on the dollars compared to a factory VIN numbered car. I view the 1992 as that. It is the first (nothing can change that), we know exactly how many there were built (and is a small number) and approximately how many are still around (even smaller number). That remaining number is smaller than the number of collectors worldwide who would be interested in it. Supply and demand. There are no more, that is it. It has the best chance.

The 1998 GTSR (100), the 97 B/W RT/10 (53), the 2010 SRT-10 ACR Verts (20), these also follow this principle. They will do well. There are two different groups here for buyers/collectors. Those that want to own it and enjoy it and those that want to own it, oogle it and sell it for a big profit. The later masturbate to the lowest miles and closest originality whereas the earlier group want a great car with everything sorted and want to drive nad enjoy it with a little appreciation. There is however an even 3rd group which is emerging and that is people that want the the cars that were modified as part of the period correct at the time. These are the Hennesseys, the SVS, TNT King Snakes, Shelbys, etc., etc. If Barrett Jackson Las Vegas has taught us anything is that there is a group that like the uniqueness and the spirit of that period in time when those cars and modifications came out. This bodes well for the Prefix factory mods, the Stage kits installed by dealer (despite the warranty issues which are a concern now but in a few years when nobody has a warranty, they will be in demand).

In the end it is a crap shoot. I have a couple of Saleens that are pure collector cars that I enjoy on occasion. One is now worth 6-figures and the other is now over $50k. I did not pay anywhere near those prices but I bought right and knew exactly what they were and pounced on them. They are blue chip collectible. Those were smart buys. My Viper, I bought so I had a car out of all my toys, I could drive and not feel bad. I bought a great used 96' RT/10 and drive it without a car in the world. If it appreciates, great, if now, I am driving it. I would love to add a GEN V to the mix in the future but we will see. I view the GEN V as the GEN II GTS but better so for me, owning a GEN V would negate the desire to own a GEN II GTS. The RT/10 however, that was never duplicated. That is just a fun car at a great buy in price and somewhat easy to maintain. I believe this will lead into why people are going to be picking them up. Nothing like it out there and nothing like it will ever be produced again. And if you can by a good low miles, no story car for $28k and have the "potential with luck" that it may jump to $40k or slightly higher in the future. How can you lose?

It is all a crap shoot, this car collecting stuff. If I was smart, I would have bought a used F360 Ferrari Challenge Stradale when I had the chance as the prices have jumped over $125k from where I could have bought one but I didn't. AND I strongly felt that car was going to jump. So goes the collector world. That and I did not have $135k at the time to buy it. Ha! Ha!

[GerryWoodViper]

I am putting one car away, for "collection". It will be truly unique and special (like almost all Vipers) and it will be for the sole purposes of "that's Great Grandpa's car" 60 years from now.

I am going to drive the Hell out of my 2017 ACR-E with no options and spend ludicrous amounts of money on maintenance, tires, and brakes..... and have a lot of "smiles per gallon".

Speculating on future car values is a risky game. Moreover, it's hard to sell when a car is at (supposed) peak value as that's when everyone else finally sees what you've been looking at for decades. Before that, it was 'just another car' to the genarl public.

Buy Low, Sell High... but who really wants to sell!

[Dan Cragin]

Prices on Gen 1's and Gen 2's are climbing.

Some day, early Vipers will be like Shelby Cobra's.

[BrianACR]

My vote is for the '98 GTS/R
That is IMO the best looking of all of them. And the one that I most want parked in my garage!
Sorry Dave6666, did I say parked? I meant overnighting in my garage and driven during the day. When there's no snow of course

[BJG32]

Sorry Dave6666, did I say parked? I meant overnighting in my garage and driven during the day. When there's no snow of course

LOL....

"Have you considered snow tires/chains you dumbass jerk!!!! I hate people who share my hobby but don't do it exactly like me!" ~Dave

[BJG32]

Prices on Gen 1's and Gen 2's are climbing.

Some day, early Vipers will be like Shelby Cobra's.

Dan I happen to agree. Yes some will be more desired than others but viper has all the necessary pieces needed to be a high value collectible. Low production, highly desired, Iconic.

When is the last time anyone batted an eye at a 1992 Corvette? Any viper is still a show stopper to the general public. $5 Millon Dollar Shelby might be a stretch, But prices will only climb from here. I can certainly believe any viper doubling in value in our lifetime.

BUT YES...if viper collection is your retirement plan you're better off just putting it all on red in Vegas.

[BrianACR]

LOL....

"Have you considered snow tires/chains you dumbass jerk!!!! I hate people who share my hobby but don't do it exactly like me!" ~Dave

HAHAHAHA!!!!
As a matter of fact, I did consider it! Oh wait, almost forgot about that part in the owners manual where it says there are no snow tires that will fit and to not use chains cuz you'll wreck sh*t

[Fatboy 18]

2000 Vipers should be up there, The First year of the Creampuff with Special Silicone Pistons. Fast Red models demand a higher price

[Ricketts]

Tough call, I made a list by GEN's lol

Gen 1 - 92 of course.
GEN 2 - 96 B/W, 98 GTS-R, or the 1/1 B/W ACR
GEN 3 - Mamba or 06 B/W Coupe
GEN 4 - ACR car
GEN 5 - ACR car

[parabs]

My viper list as cars I plan to own and possibly keep:

1. 2010 SSG/Black ACR (1 of 30) because that's my all time favourite colour of Viper.
2. 2014 Black TA

I honestly don't believe the astronomical appreciation as seen on select 50's and 60's cars will be replicated. Too many hosers storing cars hoping for "that day when".

I buy cars because I like to drive cars. If they appreciate, or don't depreciate, bonus.

/the end.

[Dan Cragin]

1997 Blue/ White smooth hood RT/10

[ViperPete]

My car.

And other Vipers.

[sonicbloo]

GEN 3 - Mamba or 06 B/W Coupe

Yippee! Good choice!

Any Viper here in the UK is a rare car, so prices should stay firm or go up.

When do you sell though? I'd always be thinking "I used to own one of those, I wish I hadn't sold it, and now I can't afford another".

[mak1118]

1992
1995 last 300 stamped
1996 GTS B/W
1996 GTS W/B (3 made)
1997 RT/10 B/W (53 made)
1998 GTS-R (100 made)
1999 GTS ACR
2000 RT/10 ACR (1 made)
2002 Final Additions (Final Additions ACR's even more rare)

I think all Vipers will one day appreciate how much who knows. But the above list is a good start to potential "special" Vipers

Mine is one of the last 300 produced in 1995, just curious, what would make them more valuable than one of the earlier 95's?

[99RT10]

Buy Low, Sell High... but who really wants to sell!

You sir have got the right mind set. Don't sell, always buy. It's been said before, I will say it again. Not driving your Viper is like not porking your hot a$$ supermodel girlfriend, saving her for the next guy down the road. Does that make any sense?!!

[MacGyvers Mullet]

Could someone explain to me how the end of production of the GEN V Vipers will have an effect on the prices of earlier generation Vipers.

If they made one or 100,000 GEN V's it has no bearing on all the other generations of Vipers their production numbers is already finite.

It's more of a mental thing with the general public. People see something that "will never be made again" and they want to pick up whatever they can while the getting is good. This demand eventually drives up the prices as people are eager to buy an non-renewable resource.

[BJG32]

It's more of a mental thing with the general public. People see something that "will never be made again" and they want to pick up whatever they can while the getting is good. This demand eventually drives up the prices as people are eager to buy an non-renewable resource.

I think the end of v10 engines as we know them is coming. With government rules, Hybrid and turbocharged supercars will be the norm....then 100% electric???? The sound of big engines and smell of gas is a big part of the fun.

[ViperJon]

It's more of a mental thing with the general public. People see something that "will never be made again" and they want to pick up whatever they can while the getting is good. This demand eventually drives up the prices as people are eager to buy an non-renewable resource.

The "getting will be good" forever, there are 28K+ Vipers made of every description.

[Rosie]

My vote is Tim Cloutier`s 1997 Shelby GTS.,in the back of the Viper quarterly 2016,vol. #9,only one was made.I`m glad no sink-hole has swallowed up any Viper`s.

[ViperJeff]

The "getting will be good" forever, there are 28K+ Vipers made of every description.

Numbers....... Numbers......

31,200+ and counting. If Dodge builds 850 2017's the total will be really close to an even 32,000. Hmmm I should check that when I get home


I think I'll leave this one just to see how close I get, well.... at least I'll know how close I get. Someone will have that number, I'm sure they will, however... No longer in the Viper production documentation

[sfm79]

I think it will be my 1 of 1 very rare 1991 Viper.
If it's printed in the newspaper it has to be true, right?