No more ACRs

[Chorps]

I dont know.. I think it was a bold and possible a smart move of what Gerry Wood has done... They now will be able to have some control on the ACR market..Now if someone wants a ACR they are going to have to possible buy one of there cars... Wood can control the price a bit, maybe sell a few at a time. If they control market share they could keep the price strong...Look all the other dealers including the big three could have took Woods leap of faith on the ACR and bought more inventory as well but they didn't. Wood must think very highly and have a strong faith in this car or he would not have taken such a big risk.. I know this really sucks for those who have not got there 1 of 1 order in , but everyone still has the opportunity to purchase this great car..Its just going to be from dealer inventory, just like we have been doing all along...For all of us that love the Viper this could be a good thing if he can keep the price and demand strong......

Wow...kudos to them for being bold, that's around a $20M investment (SRP). Sucks for everyone else who was wanting to order though.

[TrackAire]

Very interesting turn of events....I would not have seen this coming, especially for a dealership that I'd never really even seen on the radar. I wonder if FCA gave them some sort of special financing deal if they bought out the remaining inventory?? I'm not in the dealership business, but wouldn't the dealer have to come up with the entire dollar figure in something like 90 days after getting the ACR's? Does Gerry Wood have that kind of financial resources?

My last thought was that Gerry Wood's location is right in the middle of most NASCAR teams and garages....maybe 50 to 60 of these cars are going to get modified like the ACR-X program for a new race series by one of the local NASCAR garages in the neighborhood. I'm pretty sure that those ACR-E-X's would sell out immediately if a race series was announced as a farewell tour paying homage the Viper legacy.

Never a dull moment when dealing with FCA..........

[ViperSmith]

Yes, very smart move. With Gen I's trading in the $350,000 range and the iconic Gen II 1996 moving st $400,000 each these guys are sure to have made a solid investment

[Fatboy 18]

Yes, very smart move. With Gen I's trading in the $350,000 range and the iconic Gen II 1996 moving st $400,000 each these guys are sure to have made a solid investm by.

[Policy Limits]

Funny. But GTS-R cars built nearly two decades ago have a higher value now than they did then & that's pretty good, for a car. Gen V special editions will do the same & more I suspect

[Dman]

Yes, very smart move. With Gen I's trading in the $350,000 range and the iconic Gen II 1996 moving st $400,000 each these guys are sure to have made a solid investment

LMAO. I'd love to see the viper valued (actually selling) at it's true worth, let alone appreciate, but IMO the likelihood of that happening (in the next year or 15 years) is about as probable as a competent President being elected in the US.

[Mbccenter]

The negativity of the Viper owners is one of the reasons for the low value. They kill themselves. Go to a Ford GT board and read how they are.. I do think that the ACR will be strong value wise but I am just going to drive it for what it is.. If my kid gets to sell it for big $ after I am gone that will be good for them..

[genVer]

The negativity of the Viper owners is one of the reasons for the low value. They kill themselves. Go to a Ford GT board and read how they are.. I do think that the ACR will be strong value wise but I am just going to drive it for what it is.. If my kid gets to sell it for big $ after I am gone that will be good for them..

Great post Mbccenter!

[ViperJon]

The negativity of the Viper owners is one of the reasons for the low value. They kill themselves. Go to a Ford GT board and read how they are.. I do think that the ACR will be strong value wise but I am just going to drive it for what it is.. If my kid gets to sell it for big $ after I am gone that will be good for them..

And there it is.....the inevitable Viper vs. FGT comparo that nobody is buying into.....'cause if people weren't "negative" Viper values would be skyrocketing!

[ACRSNK]

Funny. But GTS-R cars built nearly two decades ago have a higher value now than they did then & that's pretty good, for a car. Gen V special editions will do the same & more I suspect

Have you seen the prices on the GTS-R's that have actually changed hands in the last 1 -2 years? Check the auction results. To say that they have a "higher value" is a bit of a stretch when you can still find them at sticker or less and that is for a wrapper car. Car is over 18 years old. That car has not brought any value to anyone that bought one new. In fact, it is a failed investment, but I still like and will have one someday.

[Fatboy 18]

The negativity of the Viper owners is one of the reasons for the low value. They kill themselves. Go to a Ford GT board and read how they are.. I do think that the ACR will be strong value wise but I am just going to drive it for what it is.. If my kid gets to sell it for big $ after I am gone that will be good for them..

OK, So they made 4038 Ford GT'S FROM 2004 TO 2006 with a retail price of approx $150k
Again prices vary, but there's one on the bay currently for $160k and seem to be topping out at $400k

Now are you going to include All Gen V Vipers or are we just talking of the Gen V ACR here? Do we know how many Gen V ACRs have been built so far?

[Martin2000GTS]

Yes, very smart move. With Gen I's trading in the $350,000 range and the iconic Gen II 1996 moving st $400,000 each these guys are sure to have made a solid investment

lol...I did laugh reading that....

[Martin2000GTS]

OK, So they made 4038 Ford GT'S FROM 2004 TO 2006 with a retail price of approx $150k
Again prices vary, but there's one on the bay currently for $160k and seem to be topping out at $400k

Now are you going to include All Gen V Vipers or are we just talking of the Gen V ACR here? Do we know how many Gen V ACRs have been built so far?

I do think about this pretty often. And do make the comparisons as well with the Ford GT and Viper. But here is my reasoning and take it for what its worth. They made 4038 Ford GT' total as you say. Plus of course the "real ones" from back in the day which go for millions and there are only a hand full of them. I think the racing heritage of the Ford GT from back in the day appeals to people more than the viper racing heritage. On top of that the total amount of viper s in existence today (from 92-17) I'm guessing is 30,000 cars? (That's just a guess I really don't know the answer.) Having an extreme ACR will be rare in the viper community, but that's just it...in the community. But still not overall as rare as a Ford GT plus its racing heritage.

Anyways I just want to buy my 1 of 1 and be buried in it. I never plan on selling it just like I never plan on selling my current viper that I have had for 13 years.

[Martin2000GTS]

We should be getting updated info real soon here. I don't want to spread any rumors so I'm just waiting for an official announcement which I am sure will happen any day now. I feel like we make a lot of assumptions on here that just gets people excited and mad over nothing. Lets wait for the official word, then save our bashing for then Trust me I'm losing my hair wondering if I'm going to be out a 1 of 1.

[ACR Extreme]

The negativity of the Viper owners is one of the reasons for the low value. They kill themselves. Go to a Ford GT board and read how they are.. I do think that the ACR will be strong value wise but I am just going to drive it for what it is.. If my kid gets to sell it for big $ after I am gone that will be good for them..

You are spot on and will follow in those exact footsteps.

The endless badgering of FCA dealers is a reflection of misery loves company over nothing.

It's either a few defective engines or poor builds - shooting themselves in both feet on a daily basis those posts directly drive the market down a few posts later the same complain about value.

So many posts of prices what happened a decade ago it's as if one can change history even today people complain about a dealership doing their job.

The only way prices go up is positive ownership - it's that simple.

[ACRSNK]

We should be getting updated info real soon here. I don't want to spread any rumors so I'm just waiting for an official announcement which I am sure will happen any day now. I feel like we make a lot of assumptions on here that just gets people excited and mad over nothing. Lets wait for the official word, then save our bashing for then Trust me I'm losing my hair wondering if I'm going to be out a 1 of 1.

Go ahead and spread some rumors....inquiring minds want to know what you know

[Simms]

We should be getting updated info real soon here. I don't want to spread any rumors so I'm just waiting for an official announcement which I am sure will happen any day now. I feel like we make a lot of assumptions on here that just gets people excited and mad over nothing. Lets wait for the official word, then save our bashing for then Trust me I'm losing my hair wondering if I'm going to be out a 1 of 1.

Your last sentence is not encouraging.

[bluesrt]

Yep used at 500 miles never tracked mint condition, window sticker still in the window all aero still wrapped in plastic. That 500 miles was worth $20,000!

Lol.

that was the car that got dropped off the trailer

[NT-ACR]

And there it is.....the inevitable Viper vs. FGT comparo that nobody is buying into.....'cause if people weren't "negative" Viper values would be skyrocketing!

[ACRucrazy]

OK, So they made 4038 Ford GT'S FROM 2004 TO 2006 with a retail price of approx $150k
Again prices vary, but there's one on the bay currently for $160k and seem to be topping out at $400k

Now are you going to include All Gen V Vipers or are we just talking of the Gen V ACR here? Do we know how many Gen V ACRs have been built so far?

Gen IV ACR, 635.
Gen V ACR probably a bit more than that.
Total Gen V Viper probably a bit more than 4038 in 5 years.

[Dman]

realism isn't negativity, it's just keeping it real.

if the love, positive attitude and thinking it's the greatest thing made by the owner, would make a cars' value go up .... mustangs would resale for a million dollars.

we can all meet back here in 20 years and see. meantime, I hope everyone waiting on good news gets it, shame if some folks are left out as a result of the "gobble up" strategy.

[Fatboy 18]

Gen IV ACR, 635.
Gen V ACR probably a bit more than that.
Total Gen V Viper probably a bit more than 4038 in 5 years.

Good Info, thank you, Well If we keep it to the ACRs then future pricing and Values could get exciting

[Fatboy 18]

Gen IV ACR, 635.
Gen V ACR probably a bit more than that.
Total Gen V Viper probably a bit more than 4038 in 5 years.

Good Info, thank you, Well If we keep it to the ACRs then future pricing and Values could get exciting

[ViperDC]

Yes, very smart move. With Gen I's trading in the $350,000 range and the iconic Gen II 1996 moving st $400,000 each these guys are sure to have made a solid investment

Lmao

[drivingdutchman]

As per the other thread it is confirmed that GW did indeed cause this debacle after FCA allowed them to get away with ordering GTC's as stock cars. Sigh..... We will see if FCA is able to do anything to remedy the situation they've put themselves in. Lots of unhappy people at the moment. I fully understand that at the end of any product cycle there will always be unhappy people who don't get what they want, but this seems to be extraordinarily mismanaged.