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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloviper View Post
    2017 model year production ends on calendar year according to the regulators. Everyone has different model year starts and ends. Believe it has been this way for decades. If it is and they could have built it till the end of the year but chose not to.....well can't fix stupid then.
    The date for final phase in for side air bag (Ejection Mitigation) was decided way back in 2011 and finalized in 2013. If you want to read the entire article click on the link and then go to "Table 5—Final Rule Lead Times and Phase-In Schedule" interesting reading.

    Might be why the Plant Manager at CAAP said all Vipers have to be finished my mid-August,

    https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...ion-mitigation

    Table 5—Final Rule Lead Times and Phase-In Schedule

    For vehicles manufactured on or after the first date and before the second date The number of vehicles certified to FMVSS No. 226 shall be not less than this percent of the manufacturer's annual production of vehicles May credits be used?
    On or after September 1, 2013; before September 1, 2014 25 percent Yes.
    On or after September 1, 2014; before September 1, 2015 50 percent Yes.
    On or after September 1, 2015; before September 1, 2016 75 percent Yes.
    On or after September 1, 2016; before September 1, 2017 100 percent Yes.
    On or after September 1, 2017 All vehicles, without use of credits No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark1107 View Post
    Im glad i got my ACR E at a 20k discount.
    I think it's awesome you picked up a used ACR. I saw the car for sale and definitely thought about it. Good for you. However, it's misleading to say you got a 20k discount. People are going to think you got 20k off a new ACR and wonder why they can't get the same. It's important to give all the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR08 View Post
    I think it's awesome you picked up a used ACR. I saw the car for sale and definitely thought about it. Good for you. However, it's misleading to say you got a 20k discount. People are going to think you got 20k off a new ACR and wonder why they can't get the same. It's important to give all the info.
    He bought from someone who used a $15k coupon on an marked down car. The original owner even made money on the deal. Everyone won!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClayR View Post
    You guys have every right to be mad. The 1 of 1 program was not for dealers to order one for their lot. They were suppose to be for people customizing the car. When I ordered mine they specifically asked if it was my personal or for the dealership because, "1 of 1 isn't suppose to be for stock unit. It's really no surprise.
    I agree. I think the 1 of 1 should be for the actual owner of the car. If this rumor is true, it will be too bad if someone misses out on being able to build a car they want. That being said there were signs the ACR was going to sale out and maybe even all the Vipers. We all know it's a finite product.

    Also, it is a free market and if one dealer wants to buy a bunch of them that's his right and you can't blame dodge for selling them to him instead of waiting for more buyers to order 1 of 1s on their own.
    Last edited by ACR08; 10-01-2016 at 05:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR08 View Post
    I think it's awesome you picked up a used ACR. I saw the car for sale and definitely thought about it. Good for you. However, it's misleading to say you got a 20k discount. People are going to think you got 20k off a new ACR and wonder why they can't get the same. It's important to give all the info.
    Exactly my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRT_BluByU View Post
    I think they're having a tough time producing the ACR hoods...
    If that is the case can you still get an ACR (just not the ACR-E) since it shares the same hood as the SRT and TA models?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJG32 View Post
    He bought from someone who used a $15k coupon on an marked down car. The original owner even made money on the deal. Everyone won!
    There has been at least one other ACR sale at quite a bit better "discount" to MSRP than Mark1107. But it was also a used car, so not relevant to this discussion. My point is the deals are out there, they are just few and far between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Track Pack View Post
    With no more ACRs to be ordered, I wonder if we will see an increase in the # of TA2.0 packages, as the next closest step-brother?
    I was led to believe that TA packages would not be available in 2017, only TA group on a GTC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR08 View Post
    If that is the case can you still get an ACR (just not the ACR-E) since it shares the same hood as the SRT and TA models?
    good question.. anyone confirm?

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    I was going to order an Orange TA , worked out the configurator just last week and was planning on ordering it in the coming weeks , I just checked now and that option is gone .
    I won't lose any sleep over it but it boggles my mind that they have chosen to limit themselves instead of trying to sell as many as possible and recoup some of their money especially on a package .
    Last edited by MK2_Viper; 10-01-2016 at 08:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Track Pack View Post
    With no more ACRs to be ordered, I wonder if we will see an increase in the # of TA2.0 packages, as the next closest step-brother?
    The option is no longer on configurator , it was there a few days ago but not today .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR08 View Post
    If that is the case can you still get an ACR (just not the ACR-E) since it shares the same hood as the SRT and TA models?
    That might be the reason they quite selling the SRT...used those hoods for the 300 plus ACRs they planned on building.

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    Well that sucks if this is all true. I was in the middle of choosing colors for mine. If they sold out of ACR's because a dealer decided to stockpile them at the last minute, that's seriously ridiculous and extremely disappointing. Hopefully we hear that they are going to re-open the order books, otherwise I'll just wait. Lots of cool cars new and used at the $150k price point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaViper View Post
    That might be the reason they quite selling the SRT...used those hoods for the 300 plus ACRs they planned on building.
    my understanding is the have (had) only three molds for the hoods. 1 SRT style and 2 GTS style. take rates ended up the opposite of what they expected. i thi k they ended up making another SRT style mould with the into of the ACR but cant confirm

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    The SRT hoods seem to have the ACR cutout lined out in the hood.

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    Can anyone comment on how dealer allocations work? Can a single dealer really order 100+ ACRs like is being said? I know Bill P even stated here that Woodhouse didn't participate in the Dealer Edition because of not wanting to burn their allocation on a fixed model.

    Darren

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    For what it's worth. I had an order. Three colour samples from concierge and made a final selection then it was cancelled along with 79 other Canadian orders. So there you go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpMan View Post
    For what it's worth. I had an order. Three colour samples from concierge and made a final selection then it was cancelled along with 79 other Canadian orders. So there you go...
    That is a lot of cancelled orders. I wonder why they didn't give a heads up.

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    I sure as hell hope not. Was going to order Monday.

    Something seems odd.

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    Well, we have two major dealers here on the forums. I'm certain they can clarify the rumor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACRucrazy View Post
    Is that like settling for the not as sexy, older sister?




















    Hey, don't count out the older sister. You can usually do filthy, dirty stuff with her cause she is so happy for the attention. Especially with the younger sister getting all the attention. I'll take that older sister any day ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpMan View Post
    For what it's worth. I had an order. Three colour samples from concierge and made a final selection then it was cancelled along with 79 other Canadian orders. So there you go...
    Hey, any idea what was cancelled? I ordered a special edition model and even got my VIN assigned, I'm from Toronto. Do you know what got cancelled exactly? Are any 2017 coming to Canada? wtf is up with this?

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    Stopped by my Montreal dealer in August an 2017 Viper ordering was not open yet, went back on Friday and still Viper ordering does not show up on their screen.
    He called the zone and they said Viper orders for 2017 was still not open in Canada, at this time.

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    Canada orders were cancelled as previously mentioned. Call Dave Pozzobon at Ontario Chrysler for more details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludington1 View Post
    Can anyone comment on how dealer allocations work? Can a single dealer really order 100+ ACRs like is being said? I know Bill P even stated here that Woodhouse didn't participate in the Dealer Edition because of not wanting to burn their allocation on a fixed model.

    Darren
    I remember in 2010 ViperExchange loaded up on inventory when the car was first discontinued. Perhaps they are at it again. Just sad to see these cars end production, they are so unique.


 
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