No more ACRs

**99RT10** · 09-30-2016

Heard a nasty rumor that the ACRs can not be order anymore. Anybody know if this is true? I sent Bill P a PM, anyone know for sure?

**SSGNRDZ_28** · 09-30-2016

Heard this was true as well.

**ACRucrazy** · 09-30-2016

Following...

**Martin2000GTS** · 09-30-2016

I tried to order mine today and could not get it. I want to die.

**Martin** · 09-30-2016

I got the call from my concierge, and he hinted that I ordered just in time. Not sure if he knew anything or not - but he said the sold orders, along with the special editions, are unprecedented. He couldn't even give me a "rough" estimate of when the car might be done except to say "it might be as far out as this time next year, I just can't say."

If the rumor is true, the units sitting in dealer showrooms will be gone pretty quick...

**donk_316** · 09-30-2016

There are like 600 of the damn things. Call one of the big 3 dealers and buy one off the lot

**EZ 2B Green** · 09-30-2016

Sorry to hear that Martin. I know you had a great custom ACR build in mind.

**Martin2000GTS** · 09-30-2016

Originally Posted by donk_316

There are like 600 of the damn things. Call one of the big 3 dealers and buy one off the lot

Wanted that 1 of 1 man....... So upset right now

**Martin2000GTS** · 09-30-2016

It took me along time to get financing cause I'm newly self employed, got approved last night, got bank check this morning for deposit, went to dealer around 4pm to finish up the order and the computer system wouldn't let us order the car. We figured it was a glitch in the system and made an appointment to finish up Monday morning. Clearly that's not gonna happen. Seriously what are the chances .......what a shitty feeling... Fuck

**Dman** · 09-30-2016

Originally Posted by donk_316

There are like 600 of the damn things. Call one of the big 3 dealers and buy one off the lot

LoL, for real.

**Martin** · 09-30-2016

Originally Posted by Martin2000GTS

It took me along time to get financing cause I'm newly self employed, got approved last night, got bank check this morning for deposit, went to dealer around 4pm to finish up the order and the computer system wouldn't let us order the car. We figured it was a glitch in the system and made an appointment to finish up Monday morning. Clearly that's not gonna happen. Seriously what are the chances .......what a shitty feeling... Fuck

It might just be a computer glitch - when I was ordering mine, the system was acting up like you wouldn't believe. Dealer had to use two different systems to order the car, and the process failed a number of times before it finally took - and it never really "took" quite right. My hope is that it's just their FUBAR ordering system that is all screwed up.

**Rapidrezults** · 09-30-2016

Yup, heard this as well. The question is, will it be temporary or permanent?

**Mbccenter** · 09-30-2016

Heard this as well. I think it might be all Vipers?

**darbgnik** · 09-30-2016

From can't sell enough, to can't make enough. No happy medium apparently.

Funny, I remember hearing experts saying the assembly line was capable of many times the number of cars it was producing, seems to not really be the case after all. Can't order an SRT already, surprising that you can't order an ACR, but not out of the realm of possibility I suppose?

**Martin** · 09-30-2016

Originally Posted by darbgnik

From can't sell enough, to can't make enough. No happy medium apparently.

Funny, I remember hearing experts saying the assembly line was capable of many times the number of cars it was producing, seems to not really be the case after all. Can't order an SRT already, surprising that you can't order an ACR, but not out of the realm of possibility I suppose?

If it is true, it may be a parts supplier issue. They probably have to contract for a certain number of items in order to know that they have enough to get through the production run, and also have enough spares for later. They might have gotten into a situation where they just didn't want to commit to the number of units that they'd have to in order to meet demand. If demand looks like it justifies contracting for the parts, they'll open ordering up again. Of course that's just speculation.

**Coloviper** · 09-30-2016

This FCA company is proving to be a complete cluster F$&K. I mean can they not get their stuff together already. It is End of September 2016 and they are not accepting orders for cars to be built by December 31st, 2017. Come on! This is their only way to recapture their loses. Unbelievable!

**BlueAdder** · 09-30-2016

If there are some 600 or so on order right now, considering that they can output 3 per day, I would assume that they don't want to keep on building a car that has been declared as EOL beyond late next year. Hopefully it was just a problem with the ordering system but if not, that's pretty sad for those who try to order a one of one.

There were two ACR-E at the dealership where I bought mine and the MSRP was $145K. Chances are that if indeed, one can't order a Viper anymore, those will be gone before long.

**donk_316** · 09-30-2016

I thought the deadline for the airbag / occupant ejection killing blow was Sept 2016?

I'm sure we discussed this before...

**Martin** · 09-30-2016

Originally Posted by BlueAdder

If there are some 600 or so on order right now, considering that they can output 3 per day, I would assume that they don't want to keep on building a car that has been declared as EOL beyond late next year. Hopefully it was just a problem with the ordering system but if not, that's pretty sad for those who try to order a one of one.

There were two ACR-E at the dealership where I bought mine and the MSRP was $145K. Chances are that if indeed, one can't order a Viper anymore, those will be gone before long.

I just sent Paul a note to see if the rumors are true or not. Those cars they have in the showroom are nice - I was actually tempted by the black one with the red stripe. If I didn't go the 1 of 1 route, I would have grabbed that thing for instant gratification.

**Coloviper** · 09-30-2016

2017 model year production ends on calendar year according to the regulators. Everyone has different model year starts and ends. Believe it has been this way for decades. If it is and they could have built it till the end of the year but chose not to.....well can't fix stupid then.

**John N** · 09-30-2016

Had a friend successfully order a one-of-one in GTS trim today from VE, so it appears may just be an ACR issue with parts inventory or suppliers. Hope they find some capacity and you all get another chance, I am thanking my lucky stars that I pulled the trigger in July.

**str5010** · 09-30-2016

It's been covered on here before by the big three dealers - FCA only purchased a certain number of ACR specific parts via supplier contract long before orders grew to the rate they are at now. Even though they can legally build out all the way until nearly a year from now the word was that supplier contributions were already locked in. Frustrating how everything has played out over the last few years.

**EZ 2B Green** · 09-30-2016

Originally Posted by str5010

It's been covered on here before by the big three dealers - FCA only purchased a certain number of ACR specific parts via supplier contract long before orders grew to the rate they are at now. Even though they can legally build out all the way until nearly a year from now the word was that supplier contributions were already locked in. Frustrating how everything has played out over the last few years.

This was discussed at Lime Rock with Ben Keating before the race. If only ACR's are suspended from the ordering system, then this is apparently the case.