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  1. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by NT-ACR View Post
    Oh, geez. It's so wonderful when people spread outdated information. First of all, at least in the states, the R35 generation car (which is what crashed and caused the ban) is simply called the "GT-R", not "Skyline". Second, the speed limit, which was put in place in March of last year, has been lifted since April 2nd of this year.
    That's like saying that the SRT Viper is not a Dodge Viper... It's the same damn thing! Second, if you want to be politically correct; the Nurburgring Ring isn't in the United States so why would it abide by the nameplate in US? Quit trying to be a keyboard warrior!

    Thanks for the updated info on the Nurburgring ring good to hear!
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    Back on topic there seems to be several ACRs on ebay currently for sub MSRP prices...

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    I think it is normal for most any car to be sold +/- MSRP, you'll have some that were sold marked up and some at a discount to MSRP. I'm not really sure that's an indicator of anything other than the ACR has been out for a year now and you can still order your own spec at or under MSRP if you desire. If ordering closes you might see that change. Right now there is still an "unlimited" supply.

    I'm sure the ACRs will depreciate to a point and eventually the prices will start to hold or rise again. What that time frame is and how much the deprecation will be I'm not going to guess. If more people start to catch on and ordering closes you might see the supply dry up and prices solidify. In addition, I would think if you have a unique and desirable 1 of 1 combo, find the right buyer, and aren't in a hurry to sell you could demand a premium over the average market price just due to the fact that there's only 1 (or only a few, but probably not on the market at the same time) of any given unique paint combo. Will there be a new Viper, what is it, etc. etc. Also if we have another recession I wouldn't expect prices to rise on any car so there are a lot of variables to consider, I'm there will be some good deals out there eventually.

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    Help me understand why the extreme will be worth 15K more than a base when the extreme option is 6900?

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    I do not think the used market will be kind to the non extreme ACR, but that's because I personally don't understand the point of it. Worse visibility out the rear window, no cool vents over the front tires, and no cool rear diffuser. That car doesn't check a single box for me.

    I expect ACR Es to depreciate quickly over the next 3 years, at which point I will buy a gently never raced specimen, and then values will skyrocket! That's my forecast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    I do not think the used market will be kind to the non extreme ACR, but that's because I personally don't understand the point of it. Worse visibility out the rear window, no cool vents over the front tires, and no cool rear diffuser. That car doesn't check a single box for me.

    I expect ACR Es to depreciate quickly over the next 3 years, at which point I will buy a gently never raced specimen, and then values will skyrocket! That's my forecast.
    What is the difference that makes a non extreme have worse visibility?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omalley_808 View Post
    What is the difference that makes a non extreme have worse visibility?
    This is just one man's recollection of the specs - but I think the regular ACR has a smaller rear wing and it is a bit lower. The lower wing would probably obstruct the view out the rear. But, I may be wrong about that - I know for sure that the TA 2.0 wing is much lower, but I'm only vaguely sure the regular ACR has the lower stanchions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    This is just one man's recollection of the specs - but I think the regular ACR has a smaller rear wing and it is a bit lower. The lower wing would probably obstruct the view out the rear. But, I may be wrong about that - I know for sure that the TA 2.0 wing is much lower, but I'm only vaguely sure the regular ACR has the lower stanchions.
    The most obstruction comes from the short TA wing. It eats up about 1/3 of the bottom view of the rear window. The ACR-E has the least obstruction, you can't even see the wing out of the back window. I haven't sat in a TA2.0 or ACR base yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmann View Post
    Help me understand why the extreme will be worth 15K more than a base when the extreme option is 6900?
    Look at the difference between Gen IV ACR and the standard Coupe or convertible. The ACR is the big dog and it is simply more desirable. Plus significantly less of them tend to get made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
    The most obstruction comes from the short TA wing. It eats up about 1/3 of the bottom view of the rear window. The ACR-E has the least obstruction, you can't even see the wing out of the back window. I haven't sat in a TA2.0 or ACR base yet.
    Whatsa behind you, doesn't matter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by v10viperbox View Post
    Look at the difference between Gen IV ACR and the standard Coupe or convertible. The ACR is the big dog and it is simply more desirable. Plus significantly less of them tend to get made.
    Both the base and Extreme are ACRs. The extreme just has a diff hood, front splitter, another canard, and the rear diffuser, and bigger rear wing.

  12. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by dmann View Post
    Both the base and Extreme are ACRs. The extreme just has a diff hood, front splitter, another canard, and the rear diffuser, and bigger rear wing.
    Oh that's all?

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    Well I Got The Base ACR, And The Rear View Is Just Fine, You Can't Even See The Wing , Only Ducking Down You Can See The Bottom Of It, In My View The Base ACR Is A T/A On Steroids , The Base Will Be The Rare Dog , So Ha Ha , They Built A Small Handful Of Bases, To The Huge # Of Extremes , And Now That's All There Building, Buy The Time There Worth More , We Will All Be In Wheel Chairs Any Way, So Don't Bank On It , LOL..
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    I get the feeling all of these higher models TA, Base ACR, Extreme ACR; are going to drive the price of a regular GTS into the ground!

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    The models: Extremes & Special Editions
    The Value: King's Ransom
    When: 10-15 years after 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by omalley_808 View Post
    I get the feeling all of these higher models TA, Base ACR, Extreme ACR; are going to drive the price of a regular GTS into the ground!
    Maybe that means one day I'll be able to afford a G5!!!

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    I think appreciating TA values will help prop up ACR prices...and the other way around should be true as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by omalley_808 View Post
    That's like saying that the SRT Viper is not a Dodge Viper... It's the same damn thing! Second, if you want to be politically correct; the Nurburgring Ring isn't in the United States so why would it abide by the nameplate in US? Quit trying to be a keyboard warrior!

    Thanks for the updated info on the Nurburgring ring good to hear!
    Actually it is not the same thing. The GTR is completely different from the Skyline which was only sold in Japan and similar to our Infinity G series. Even in Japan they have separated into two different models. It is no longer the same as when the Skyline had different variants to include the GTR (GT-T, GTR, Vspec, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
    The most obstruction comes from the short TA wing. It eats up about 1/3 of the bottom view of the rear window. The ACR-E has the least obstruction, you can't even see the wing out of the back window. I haven't sat in a TA2.0 or ACR base yet.
    The TA 1 has a spoiler the TA 2 has a wing and it doesn't,t obstruct your view at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omalley_808 View Post
    That's like saying that the SRT Viper is not a Dodge Viper... It's the same damn thing! Second, if you want to be politically correct; the Nurburgring Ring isn't in the United States so why would it abide by the nameplate in US? Quit trying to be a keyboard warrior!

    Thanks for the updated info on the Nurburgring ring good to hear!
    Lol. Still not doing any research and yet acting like you know everything. Go look up the Skyline and you'll be enlightened. I can promise you it is most definitely not "the same damn thing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Koolasp 16ACR View Post
    Well I Got The Base ACR, And The Rear View Is Just Fine, You Can't Even See The Wing , Only Ducking Down You Can See The Bottom Of It, In My View The Base ACR Is A T/A On Steroids , The Base Will Be The Rare Dog , So Ha Ha , They Built A Small Handful Of Bases, To The Huge # Of Extremes , And Now That's All There Building, Buy The Time There Worth More , We Will All Be In Wheel Chairs Any Way, So Don't Bank On It , LOL..
    Thats the way I'm seeing it too
    Man does that look good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NT-ACR View Post
    Lol. Still not doing any research and yet acting like you know everything. Go look up the Skyline and you'll be enlightened. I can promise you it is most definitely not "the same damn thing".
    Yes you are so righteous. The Skyline has no relation or heritage to a GTR. The SRT Viper also has no association with a Dodge Viper. Completely different. Don't call a SRT a Dodge for fear NT-ACR will call you out!

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    Fact is no one knows. There will be depreciation, the question is to what extent and for how long. I see acre values holding quite well but the people who think they will be some appreciating asset aren't thinking realistically.

    The reason they are already showing up used is likely due to people realizing it's too hardcore for the owner. As a former gen ll ACR owner I wouldn't go into an ACRE. It's too much car for me. There are people like me that are going to want different versions. There are benefits to basically every model in my opinion.

    People are hyper focused on the track records set right now but the SRT TA held the record at Laguna prior. Maybe the mid engine corvette takes all the track records back in a year or two? Who knows.

    Buy what ya can afford and enjoy it. It's just a car. If you want appreciating assets you can enjoy then go buy 15 Rolex Daytonas. I promise you they will appreciate in value and you can wear them.

  24. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by omalley_808 View Post
    Gen 4 ACRs seem to be in the $70k-$80k range
    More like $60-70k

  25. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by ViperDC View Post
    More like $60-70k
    It's hard to compare depreciation of the Gen IV ACR to the Gen V. In 2012, when I crashed my Gen IV ACR, the values had skyrocketed because everyone thought it was the last ACR (and maybe the last of the Vipers). The minute the Gen V was announced, Gen IV ACR prices started dropping. Then, when the Gen V ACR was unveiled, the bottom kind of fell out of the market for Gen IV ACRs. I have a feeling that will turn around when production actually stops and no new Vipers are to be had - that will bolster the prices of all Vipers. The ACR, especially, will likely hang in there value wise - I'm pretty sure SRT will pull one more rabbit out of its hat right before the car is retired for good. They will send it off in a way that people remember. In my eyes, it's going to be an instant classic - I could be wrong, but it has a lot going for it in that direction.


 
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