How much do you think the new ACR will depreciate

**Boosted Motorsports** · 09-16-2016

Curious how much/fast you guys think the new Gen 5 ACR will depreciate?

Gen 4 ACRs seem to be in the $70k-$80k range

I'd like to keep my current ACR and add the Gen 5 in my garage in the next few years im hoping.

Wondering if it will be in the 90-100k range in two years? Thoughts?

**SnakeWatching** · 09-16-2016

I do not own one (yet) - I am assuming that "of all the Gen 5's" ACR's will depreciate the least.

Of course I would like a lower price to get an ACR, but I have a feeling, I will never see that "Lower Price"

**BJG32** · 09-16-2016

I think you will be able to find the regular ACR below $100k. ACR-E should hold it's value pretty well with Viper going away after next year. Of course that all depends on options/miles/accidents.

One ACR-E was just sold used with about 500 miles for $121k. $140k MSRP.

**13COBRA** · 09-16-2016

3-4 years they'll be around $100k with <5k miles for a standard ACR with the ACR-E's demanding a $15-20k premium.

**Dman** · 09-16-2016

Depends on base or E.

I already missed out on a base that went for $97k, it had less than 1k miles on it, was one day late on getting my cash together. Tried for an E that went for $118k, but it had stripes. There have been a couple other E's with $130-135k MSRPs asking in the $121k range, so I'd say we've already seen below $100k for a barely used base, but Es I think will go a solid $10-20k more depending on stripes and GTC possible options, thru this year any way. If the past is any evidence, the values will continue to slide nicely for buyers. I know,some will argue with discontinuation prices will rise, i'all believe that when it happens, IMO SRTs reputation is slipping, engine assembly errors, not honoring warranties for known defects, and the vipers inexplicable and constant under-valuation for what it is, all should keep status quo of marked depreciation as always.

The resale market just has to wait for the guys buying ACRs who didn't know what they were really getting and immediately want out because they burned their taint on a side sill, or can't hear their white snake songs clearly enough on the 3 speakers.

**swexlin** · 09-16-2016

Originally Posted by Dman

The resale market just has to wait for the guys buying ACRs who didn't know what they were really getting and immediately want out because they burned their taint on a side sill, or can't hear their white snake songs clearly enough on the 3 speakers.

That's funny as shit! You just made my day!

**skydeals** · 09-16-2016

I would agree with BJG32 and 13COBRA... I have been a high end used car dealer for the last 25 years.. I have no crystal ball, but I would say in 2 to 4 years the 2016-17 ACR would be around $ 95 k to $ 105 K ,, with ACR-E bringing $ 115 K to $ 125 K depending on the options, and miles ,,,, but with this beeing the final year and the ACR having such great reviews you never know what will happen in the long term future.... If its any help.. I am a used car Dealer and I still bought a brand new ACR-E this year..Just love it and love the 1 of 1 program...To me its worth paying a little bit more to design the car just the way you want it and having the thrill and privilege of picking it up at the Conner factory and meeting the guys that built your car... ( priceless)..... ... Skydeals

**13COBRA** · 09-16-2016

^^

I wish I would've been in the position to order a new one (coming from a Ford dealer).

**ViperJon** · 09-16-2016

Originally Posted by BJG32

I think you will be able to find the regular ACR below $100k. ACR-E should hold it's value pretty well with Viper going away after next year. Of course that all depends on options/miles/accidents.

One ACR-E was just sold used with about 500 miles for $121k. $140k MSRP.

That car was purchased at a good price and the buyer used a 15K coupon, don't hold your breathe waiting for another at that fire sale price. He wasn't into it nearly as much as most.

**Martin** · 09-16-2016

My (possibly irrational) guess is that SRT will want this upcoming summer to be the "summer of Viper" and send it off with a huge bang. They still haven't done another pass at the 'Ring, and I'll wager they have other things up their sleeves. Then, when people realize they can't get one anymore, that will support the prices for some time to come.

I'm not planning on ever selling mine, but you never know - unexpected things happen, and it's entirely possible to be forced to sell.

Another thing to keep in mind is the "half life of Vipers". These cars tend to get wrecked, and the fewer there are on the marketplace, the more the prices are supported.

**BJG32** · 09-16-2016

Originally Posted by ViperJon

That car was purchased at a good price and the buyer used a 15K coupon, don't hold your breathe waiting for another at that fire sale price. He wasn't into it nearly as much as most.

That makes more sense!

**uberpube** · 09-16-2016

I haven't even gotten my car yet and I had an offer for more than I paid for it, which was MSRP.

**Martin** · 09-16-2016

Originally Posted by uberpube

I haven't even gotten my car yet and I had an offer for more than I paid for it, which was MSRP.

Well, that's super encouraging! I have a gut feel that these cars will do just fine (as long as we don't crash them...).

**ACR Extreme** · 09-16-2016

The ACR - E should do well.

Fastest thing out there end of an era raw purpose built track car.

17's will be worth more than the 16's last year always carries a higher value.

918 buyers were getting them at 650k got great deals same with the P1 both are now double Ford GT list goes on.

GT3RS is selling 50k over so is the GT350R etc.

Personally hope they tank and get driven vs feather dusted - my guess many Special Editions will be mothballed.

**Dman** · 09-16-2016

Originally Posted by ViperJon

That car was purchased at a good price and the buyer used a 15K coupon, don't hold your breathe waiting for another at that fire sale price. He wasn't into it nearly as much as most.

Oh I know, but that was just one. I was chasing 2 ACREs, same price point, similar MSRPs. Just saying. We'll see, maybe for the first time ever prices will reflect the real value of the car, I'm just not holding my breath.

**Dman** · 09-16-2016

Originally Posted by uberpube

I haven't even gotten my car yet and I had an offer for more than I paid for it, which was MSRP.

Canada economy on vipers is rough. New ones can be found here at invoice, there have been several of those sitting on lots, which IMO is awesome for the car. Imagine buying at invoice and a $15k coupon, deal of the century for the car you get.

**Darius** · 09-16-2016

Depending on if you want all the options, carbon int, exterior, stripes etc. Fully loaded one at 100k I doubt it.

**Eugene Lee** · 09-17-2016

I feel the ACR-E will hold value!

seem to be the only true track car out of the box, and no more Vipers after 2017

**Batmobile** · 09-17-2016

I think the 2016-2017 acr and the acr e will hold it value pretty good since it's the last you will prolly see a street car in this form, even if doge remade the viper it's not gonna have a stick it will be an auto and I would really surprised if a v10 was made again with turbos really starting to hit the market and electric cars being right around the corner, This viper is the last of the true muscle cars with a stick and a big engine. Also the 1of1 program cars will each hold their own values to each individual since when you find a car you like you won't find another one like it

**Boosted Motorsports** · 09-17-2016

I agree with everything said for sure. I just picked up my 2000 ACR about a month ago and will be a few years before I get even remotely bored with that! The new Gen V though are in a totally different league though and for once hearing magazines and reviews finally praise the viper is definitely even more incentive.

As for the Nurburgring I don't think you will see any more "lap record" attempts. Check out the Koenigsegg movie called "APEX" on Netflix. They tried to do a lap record with their new car and after a Skyline crashed and killed some people they put speed restrictions on the course now apparently...

**uberpube** · 09-17-2016

I look at the ACR as the Plymouth Superbird/Dodge Daytona of the modern day. The big question is, will the next generations appreciate cars like I do(gen x)and older generations have. Maybe I should be Mothballing X-boxes and I-phones instead.

**bigmacsmallfries** · 09-17-2016

Originally Posted by uberpube

I look at the ACR as the Plymouth Superbird/Dodge Daytona of the modern day. The big question is, will the next generations appreciate cars like I do(gen x)and older generations have. Maybe I should be Mothballing X-boxes and I-phones instead.

Funny you mention this, I used this car as my prime example as to the value of the ACR in the future which are going to be far more limited in production numbers.

Back to my post...

Even though you can look at data points from the past which suggest the car will depreciate, the ACR is the first Viper with significant hype, great reviews all around, the first car to look extremely similar to an actual racecar, possibly the last american v10, possibly last manual in a Viper, in addition to possibly being the last long hood design.

I think there's going to be minimal price depreciation, followed by appreciation after production ends next year.

**Mark1107** · 09-19-2016

Quote Originally Posted by BJG32 View Post
I think you will be able to find the regular ACR below $100k. ACR-E should hold it's value pretty well with Viper going away after next year. Of course that all depends on options/miles/accidents.

One ACR-E was just sold used with about 500 miles for $121k. $140k MSRP.
That car was purchased at a good price and the buyer used a 15K coupon, don't hold your breathe waiting for another at that fire sale price. He wasn't into it nearly as much as most.

Interesting. I bought that fire sale bad boy! 20k discount for 500 miles, no track use! Full stripes package.

**NT-ACR** · 09-19-2016

Originally Posted by omalley_808

I agree with everything said for sure. I just picked up my 2000 ACR about a month ago and will be a few years before I get even remotely bored with that! The new Gen V though are in a totally different league though and for once hearing magazines and reviews finally praise the viper is definitely even more incentive.

As for the Nurburgring I don't think you will see any more "lap record" attempts. Check out the Koenigsegg movie called "APEX" on Netflix. They tried to do a lap record with their new car and after a Skyline crashed and killed some people they put speed restrictions on the course now apparently...

Oh, geez. It's so wonderful when people spread outdated information. First of all, at least in the states, the R35 generation car (which is what crashed and caused the ban) is simply called the "GT-R", not "Skyline". Second, the speed limit, which was put in place in March of last year, has been lifted since April 2nd of this year.