I actually like my ACR-E

[kverges]

With all the negativity that seems to prevail of late, I thought I would remark that I actually like my car. I've had no significant issues with it and it performs brilliantly on track, its intended environment. I am not overly concerned about the warranty being honored, in part because I have not and do not intend to make any modifications to it.

And with all the negative posts, I have tried to keep up and learn facts, but I've seen none. It appears to all be opinion and pretty negative at that.

Not that it will make any difference, but those of you who complain, complain, complain, you do know that you are hurting the value of your car on resale?

If there are genuinely negative facts, then I can certainly understand publicizing the facts. But there sure is a lot of noise and not much signal on what may or may not be wrong with some of the cars.

The few folks I personally know with Gen V cars have not had any problems, either.

I would sure love to see more posts with technical information on set up, handling improvements, and things like that but those seem to get lost pretty quickly with the proliferation of the speculative complaints about "spun bearings" and differential failures.

Anecdotally, my car is subject to the differential recall but I broke it in carefully and have no diff noise at present, so I am considering that a spare sitting on the shelf and waiting for me. I found it pretty proactive on SRT's part and consider it a positive, personally.

The car is sublime to drive, gorgeous to look at and a reason why my 991 GT3 is for sale.

I frequent Rennlist and the GT3 has clearly had its share of problems, and yet the owners there are very positive on the car and the brand. The Z06 has huge overheating problems on track, and yet the owners there seem to be as a rule far more positive, too.

[ssjcreeper]

Absolutely thrilled with mine. As much as I enjoyed my modded Gen III... I'm obsessed with my Gen V. Only regret was that I waited this long to upgrade.

[Martin]

Thanks for posting this. All the complaints and gripes I've been reading really don't have much of a positive effect, and to be honest, there are a lot more things in life that are screwed up that the antics of FCA really fall into the "first world problems" category. I mean, there are some things in life that deserve negative attention, but spending time bitching and moaning about a car?

Really bums me out personally because my major battle in life right now is a fight against cancer. I promised myself that when the doctors tell me I'm 100% out of the woods I'm going to spring for a new ACR-E - and hearing all the bitching and moaning about the Gen V and FCA is seriously taking the wind out of my sails.

[1of1TA1.0]

Agreed and good post Keith. I wish could get some rear knuckles so I could do a full write up on Installing ACR brakes onto a Gen V non ACR

Thanks for posting this. All the complaints and gripes I've been reading really don't have much of a positive effect, and to be honest, there are a lot more things in life that are screwed up that the antics of FCA really fall into the "first world problems" category. I mean, there are some things in life that deserve negative attention, but spending time bitching and moaning about a car?

Really bums me out personally because my major battle in life right now is a fight against cancer. I promised myself that when the doctors tell me I'm 100% out of the woods I'm going to spring for a new ACR-E - and hearing all the bitching and moaning about the Gen V and FCA is seriously taking the wind out of my sails.

[Bruce H.]

Great to hear you're enjoying your car. I've got about 25,000 miles on my '14 TA and just love it more every day. I have a very capable Viper Tech looking after my car, Garron on these forums, and he's kept it in tip top condition with fluid changes and minor warranty work. I thought my high mileage Supra TT and MR2T were the most durable track day cars imaginable, with over 100 track days between them without anything beyond normal maintenance, and the TA is on track to do the same...at a much higher performance level.

I drive mine as often and as far as I can come up with good reasons for, with a distant road course usually a part of that, and I hope you enjoy yours as relentlessly as I do.

[Rapidrezults]

As much as I don't like the way some things are being handled at the corporate level, I absolutely love my ACR-E and wouldn't trade anything for it. If my motor blows, I'll rebuild it better and stronger and continue to track the smack out of it. It is everything one could ever want in a street/track toy, and it also just happens to be made in America.

[Augdog1964]

Amen! Me too! I have nothing but good things to say about FCA... just went through a buyback on my wife's Grand Cherokee Summit with the EcoDiesel... they know they had sensor issues, they bought it back and we bought a new 5.7 Hemi Grand Cherokee... and looking to buy another ACR-E just for fun and history...

My sons drive a Challenger, Charger, my wife's Grand Cherokee, my Hellcat, my Viper ACR-E, our lake house has a new Hard Rock Jeep Rubicon... they all sit next to my '68 426 Hemi Charger original red RT, and our 2003 Jeep TJ... so we are heavy MOPAR and they have always treated us right.

In case you are all ready... Thanks FCA!

Dave Bane
Richmond IN
Augdog1964

[zee]

My TA is a dream to drive. The motor issues are by far in the minority. Sucks about some of the stories we hear about mods and warranty, but again, way more positive than negative. I may need to let mine go due to my first born coming soon, but will try my hardest to keep it even if I can't drive it as much.

[ViperPete]

Thanks for posting this.

When you shine a light on what's wrong, what's wrong has a tendency to persist with greater power.

I love my car. Its magic to drive. Magic on peoples faces when they see it, and i just love the ownership (that includes all the stuff that has gone wrong with it) still no sour taste in my mouth.

[swexlin]

I too love my car. It's my second Viper, and as fun as m 03 was, this is a whole other lever. I'll have it 2 years October, bought with 7200 miles, now have 11,300. Car has been reliable so far, only warranty issue was my diff which whined at high speed, was replaced under warranty now hassle. (Interestingly the new diff makes a little noise too, but not like the old one).

My 03 never left me stranded in the 4 years I owned it, hope this one will be the same (knock wood!). Had an 07 SRT8 Superbee (miss it!) and I'm on my 4th Ram truck, and this one has been perfect so far. Its a Charger with a bed.

That being said - I hope I don't have any major issue, but if I do, I do, and we'll let the warranty handle it.

[mikesax]

With all the negativity that seems to prevail of late, I thought I would remark that I actually like my car. I've had no significant issues with it and it performs brilliantly on track, its intended environment. I am not overly concerned about the warranty being honored, in part because I have not and do not intend to make any modifications to it.

And with all the negative posts, I have tried to keep up and learn facts, but I've seen none. It appears to all be opinion and pretty negative at that.

Not that it will make any difference, but those of you who complain, complain, complain, you do know that you are hurting the value of your car on resale?

If there are genuinely negative facts, then I can certainly understand publicizing the facts. But there sure is a lot of noise and not much signal on what may or may not be wrong with some of the cars.

The few folks I personally know with Gen V cars have not had any problems, either.

I would sure love to see more posts with technical information on set up, handling improvements, and things like that but those seem to get lost pretty quickly with the proliferation of the speculative complaints about "spun bearings" and differential failures.

Anecdotally, my car is subject to the differential recall but I broke it in carefully and have no diff noise at present, so I am considering that a spare sitting on the shelf and waiting for me. I found it pretty proactive on SRT's part and consider it a positive, personally.

The car is sublime to drive, gorgeous to look at and a reason why my 991 GT3 is for sale.

I frequent Rennlist and the GT3 has clearly had its share of problems, and yet the owners there are very positive on the car and the brand. The Z06 has huge overheating problems on track, and yet the owners there seem to be as a rule far more positive, too.

THANK YOU for the post KVERGES!! It's hard to listen to "grown men WHINE"!!! I've put 20,000 miles on my 13-20,000 on my 14 an 10,000 on my 15- and so far an O2 sensor on my 13 was it!! I'm aware there have been issues-SUCKS for those guys- but we seem to have a WHINEY DOZEN of members who love to post their WHINEY OPINIONS-at the drop of EVERY problem!! I look at the other forums too-MANY more members-and even with their problems their WHINING is minimal to our site!! Very good observation on the members of all 3 sites- I'm off to put some MORE miles on a Viper before night falls- PEACE OUT!!

[Terminator02]

THANK YOU for the post KVERGES!! It's hard to listen to "grown men WHINE"!!! I've put 20,000 miles on my 13-20,000 on my 14 an 10,000 on my 15- and so far an O2 sensor on my 13 was it!! I'm aware there have been issues-SUCKS for those guys- but we seem to have a WHINEY DOZEN of members who love to post their WHINEY OPINIONS-at the drop of EVERY problem!! I look at the other forums too-MANY more members-and even with their problems their WHINING is minimal to our site!! Very good observation on the members of all 3 sites- I'm off to put some MORE miles on a Viper before night falls- PEACE OUT!!

I hope you see the irony of your post

[mikesax]

I hope you see the irony of your post

Yup-knew that was coming!!

[Lizzardking308]

Another positive thread! Who would have thought!?!

Got to put some miles on mine this weekend, still like Christmas morning every time I push that red button...

[Terminator02]

Yup-knew that was coming!!

Haha. All in good fun. I just like reading how many miles you put on your vipers. I'm daily driving mine and am loving every mile.

[VENOM V]

I don't get sucked into the negativity either.

I learned long ago that if you mod a car you're taking a risk that a warranty claim won't be honored so I leave my Vipers stock. Not judging anyone that mods, just saying it's not for me.

It is freakin track nirvana, the best track car ever made period. God bless America ��

[Viper Granny]

Whew! Glad I found this thread. I was beginning to worry even before my 2017's production begins, which should be soon since I got my vin July 7. Thank you all.

[TrackratViper]

I had a 2014 TA before getting the ACR. Both are awesome cars with no significant issues as far as I am concerned. I use the ACR as a track only car and just love its amazing handling and power.

[Policy Limits]

Even if you don't mod tracking voids warranty too apparently. Silly since the car was made for it especially variants like "time attack" and "American club racer" but a rebuild is chump change so suppose it's immaterial.

[Larryskillzs]

Can I love my 15' SRT as well in here, or is this thread limited to ACR-e's and T/A's only.

I love my Viper. It's amazing. I truly feel it will be the last true badass NA, manual only car created.

[CarolinaViper]

Great to see a post in the positive, was beginning to think this forum was like the all other types of media....bad new sells a lot more than good news. I am fortunate to be able to have purchased a 2015 SRT in May 2015, put over 11K miles, check the oil routinely, considered a Arrow PCM, thought that 20 more HP was not worth the risk of the warranty. Even with all the issues of the engines, (yes more problems than there should be with the low volume of cars), I am in the process of purchasing a new Gen V. Highly believe if I don't mod the Viper, I will not have any problems with warranty concerns.

[gcrain]

I love my ACR-E too, the feeling of connectedness with the car is unbelievable. Not to be crude but driving any other car feels like you are wearing the world's thickest condom.

The problem is I am afraid to drive it now. FCA's behavior is outrageous so I don't think it is unexpected that people are outraged.

I think people are already starting to calm down some and look at this from the perspective of how can we make FCA do the right thing. I want FCA to take care of the 2 people currently effected but more importantly they need to be more transparent about what the problem is. Whatever the problem is it is probably less scary than the unknown.

[BJG32]

Another "nothing wrong with my car (currently) so whats the problem?" post.

Keep your car stock and off tracks so you can increase your chances of feeling how you currently do.

Remember, we all felt the way you do at one point in time.

[kverges]

My car lives at the track. Literally. It is at MotorSport Ranch in track trim now and the next time I drive it will be on track.

[lmcgrew79]

Taking mine to autox tomorrow and to the track again in 2 weeks As for set up im pretty sure the car needs a bit more rake than what is stated as the factory setup. To me at the limit with either slicks or the factory tires with the 4 inch front and 5.5 inch rear rake there is still mid to corner exit under-steer, turn it is pretty good and the rear really seems hooked everywhere. I think ill go with a few extra turns and raise the rear to check the results, i have the rear wing on setting 1. I think the front camber max should be around 2.7 it still make be slightly to much as the car is stiff and dont roll much. 3.0 will destroy the inside edges of the tires in my experiance. Im planning on keeping mine stock, its as fast as 99 percent of the cars your gonna run with anyways. I may look into making a diff cooler setup as i think its a good idea and nobody else is making one that i know if. On a good note i just replaced my diff fluid after 3 track weekends and 3500 miles total and it seems to be in very good condition.

Minor issues to keep an eye one. Mine was one of the very early diff failures on my way home from pickup but they took care of it very quickly. It has burned a good bit of oil since day 1 but has really slacked off around 3000 miles. CHECK OIL OFTEN!!! Started throwing code P0430 and i swapped the rear 02 sensor which didnt clear it, then viper tech dave from roanoke suggested that i do the front sensor and it cleared it these are pretty cheap so i think its worth getting an extra front as i also heard a few sensors have went bad, The driver side exhaust side sill got toasted from end piece rolling down, just waiting on that from dealer, if you see your start moving you may wanna tack weld the end piece as a few have done it that i know of.

As Keith said the car is awesome, looks killer and is a terror on track!!