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  1. #26
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    Yeah, ditto from me on the thank you. I know there is a lot of hard work going into something that is going to benefit a great number of us. Anxious to send you my money as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VENOM V View Post
    Guys,

    . Although I appreciate Viper Alley giving us a spot in their forum, there are some angry a-holes there and that place is hard to bear for long.


    Looking forward to becoming a Charter Member.

    Todd
    That's absurd.

  3. #28
    Great work by those individuals willing to spend the time and energy to get the VOA up and running....... but part of why I stopped renewing the VCA was spending $115 per year for dues and no real benefits other than a magazine that sometimes came out kind of when it was supposed to.. Now I'll grant you that here in North Florida there is no active Chapter....all the events seemed to me to be in and around Orlando.... What is the value proposition that should compel me to spend $100+ per year for VOA? I know there is a much larger fan base, but the Mustang Club of America is $50 per year and you get 12 magazines per year...... OK.....flame suit on...fire away!!!!

  4. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcoll View Post
    Great work by those individuals willing to spend the time and energy to get the VOA up and running....... but part of why I stopped renewing the VCA was spending $115 per year for dues and no real benefits other than a magazine that sometimes came out kind of when it was supposed to.. Now I'll grant you that here in North Florida there is no active Chapter....all the events seemed to me to be in and around Orlando.... What is the value proposition that should compel me to spend $100+ per year for VOA? I know there is a much larger fan base, but the Mustang Club of America is $50 per year and you get 12 magazines per year...... OK.....flame suit on...fire away!!!!
    The big advantage is.............I get to drive a Viper instead of a Mustang! Well worth another $50 a year.

  5. #30
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    It's a valid question, has a simple answer... economics. The prices aren't arbitrary, they are based on the cost of operations. There are a lot more mustangs out there, not as many vipers. Cost of membership isn't really intended just to reflect the benefit of the regions, but also national events, insurance, vendor perks, etc.... and yes of course the magazine (not cheap). If you get 2000 people to give up the mag, we'd be all for it. ;.)

    All kidding aside, no structure will work perfect for everyone. Even in my region people drive for hours just to come to an event.

    I totally agree with you, but don't have a solution to achieve a higher expectation. We'd have to have a cheaper mag, cheaper website, cheaper badges, no insurance, etc.... but I don't believe that's what viper owners want. They expect a higher level.

    This is a good topic. Ideas are of course welcome. We have fundraisers planned, but ultimately the cost of operations is most key. And luckily, by having all volunteers, and still having a high level of quality, we can actually cover it with members dues and no debt.

  6. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcoll View Post
    Great work by those individuals willing to spend the time and energy to get the VOA up and running....... but part of why I stopped renewing the VCA was spending $115 per year for dues and no real benefits other than a magazine that sometimes came out kind of when it was supposed to.. Now I'll grant you that here in North Florida there is no active Chapter....all the events seemed to me to be in and around Orlando.... What is the value proposition that should compel me to spend $100+ per year for VOA? I know there is a much larger fan base, but the Mustang Club of America is $50 per year and you get 12 magazines per year...... OK.....flame suit on...fire away!!!!
    Where are you located? I will 100% admit that the VCA FL chapter didn't have anything in the North, it was one of my complaints as well and I live on the north side of Orlando!

    The Central/North FL region of the VOA will have more events up north, but we need members from that area to justify it, I have already been up to Jacksonville myself for a car show, posted about it no one except other orlando people came out. I understand everyone can't make it to everything, but I'm just saying we are willing to go up there for an event. The more people sign up in our region the more money there is to put on events.

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    I'll probably give it a try.... and we'll see what happens in the first year. Will be interesting to see the financials.... I don't think I ever actually saw the financials at VCA.......maybe they came out after I stopped renewing, but I got really suspicious when they would not share them immediately when asked!!

  8. #33
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    Not long now

  9. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcoll View Post
    I'll probably give it a try.... and we'll see what happens in the first year. Will be interesting to see the financials.... I don't think I ever actually saw the financials at VCA.......maybe they came out after I stopped renewing, but I got really suspicious when they would not share them immediately when asked!!
    That's OK, most of the board didn't see the financials either. At best, we were shown an Etch-a-Sketch drawing of what appeared to financials which consisted of a bunch of numbers that made no sense. True story. That's the best that the last president was able to do.

  10. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperTony View Post
    That's OK, most of the board didn't see the financials either. At best, we were shown an Etch-a-Sketch drawing of what appeared to financials which consisted of a bunch of numbers that made no sense. True story. That's the best that the last president was able to do.
    Sad but true.


    This site and club are a breath of fresh air though. And I bet the manufacturer thinks so too.

  11. #36
    hopefully no cheasy stickers or "quality" pen for membership, and details on a viper owner association invitational(voai1) event,


 
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