Viper Raffles?

[Vprbite]

Thanks Alex, it helps. But I still want a free new GEN V.

It won't be "free" when the tax man comes calling. Smoking deal on a Gen V...yes. But about 40k away from "free" .

[plumcrazy]

i identify as a viper raffle winner. where is my winnings ?

[Coloviper]

Well of course I am going to NVE3 in Vegas but I never win anything.

[ViperTony]

Well of course I am going to NVE3 in Vegas but I never win anything.

I used to say that exact same thing....but stopped saying it after NVE1.

[Vprbite]

Better odds at NVE than a raffle, right Tony?

[BrassMonkey ACR E]

Maybe some of the higher up of the VOA can help.....
I attended the NVE1 in Detroit MICHIGAN, why wasn't the "DOOR PRIZE" drawing held at the dinner instead of in OHIO ???
The tickets were transported from the event to London(I think) OHIO
I watched the drawing on the monitor in the dinning room, seen a bunch of tickets on a table but I didn't see my ticket there
How can I be assured my ticket was actually in the SQUIRRL CAGE?
I didn't like the SQUIRRLE CAGE the tickets were put into, there was no mixing of the tickets just tumbling.
NO I didn't attend NVE2
Thank you, .........

[BrassMonkey ACR E]

Where did my post go????????????????????????
I just had a few questions

[BrassMonkey ACR E]

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[Vprbite]

I see three posts by you, if that helps.

Per your other question, one of the guys in charge will answer it. FWIW I know they are very careful about that stuff. I think they put them all in and if the one they draw isn't in attendance (even stepped out of the room) they re-draw. But someone will know for sure.

[XSnake]

Maybe some of the higher up of the VOA can help.....
I attended the NVE1 in Detroit MICHIGAN, why wasn't the "DOOR PRIZE" drawing held at the dinner instead of in OHIO ???
The tickets were transported from the event to London(I think) OHIO
I watched the drawing on the monitor in the dinning room, seen a bunch of tickets on a table but I didn't see my ticket there
How can I be assured my ticket was actually in the SQUIRRL CAGE?
I didn't like the SQUIRRLE CAGE the tickets were put into, there was no mixing of the tickets just tumbling.
NO I didn't attend NVE2
Thank you, .........

I believe they video taped all the tickets being present and recorded them all being put into the tumbler. It was all shown live on the video at NVE1, not sure how you missed it. Also, you're a couple YEARS late asking questions on NVE1. Where ya been?

[plumcrazy]

Where did my post go????????????????????????
I just had a few questions

all 3 are there. there are no other posts made by you.

[Fatboy 18]

Thanks Alex, it helps. But I still want a free new GEN V.

Its not free, your American raffle system still involves paying all taxes on the value of the prize, (which is a lot)!

[Vprbite]

Look at the top of the page, I think someone already pointed that out. ; )

It's a great price on a gen V, but not "free." Unfortunately. I know some creative accountants that could make it so you don't pay taxes on it. For about 3 years untill you end up in federal "pound me in the ass" prison. But this would be a tough one to slip underneath the radar.

[SmoknTires]

Heh, Fatboy - it's not the raffle system but the IRS - and we're not fond of them either but it's the country we live in - they want their cut!

Only thing certain in life is death and taxes. But this is still certainly better than the alternative Vprbite so eloquently mentions. : )

[AZTVR]

"... And you are working for no one but me,
Taxman! "

[Fatboy 18]

Heh, Fatboy - it's not the raffle system but the IRS - and we're not fond of them either but it's the country we live in - they want their cut!

Only thing certain in life is death and taxes. But this is still certainly better than the alternative Vprbite so eloquently mentions. : )

Yea, not sure I like the sound of Viprbite's reasoning
Need to change the IRS laws

[daytonprowler]

Maybe some of the higher up of the VOA can help.....
I attended the NVE1 in Detroit MICHIGAN, why wasn't the "DOOR PRIZE" drawing held at the dinner instead of in OHIO ???
The tickets were transported from the event to London(I think) OHIO
I watched the drawing on the monitor in the dinning room, seen a bunch of tickets on a table but I didn't see my ticket there
How can I be assured my ticket was actually in the SQUIRRL CAGE?
I didn't like the SQUIRRLE CAGE the tickets were put into, there was no mixing of the tickets just tumbling.
NO I didn't attend NVE2
Thank you, .........

Joe,

I can answer your question my dear. Not sure why you brought this up
(again) but it's been answered before for you. It's also been over two
years. Stop trying to create drama and add doubt where it's not needed.
Everything that is done with the VOA is above and beyond. Again, here's the
over 2 year old link to help you. There are pictures too!

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...ll=1#post66816

And if you're still uncomfortable, the easy solution is simply not to go to
the event. We don't want you or your agenda to feel uneasy about such things. Do
us all a favor and keep it on the other website and don't bring this here,
we don't need threads high jacked by someone with 40 posts trying to stir
the pot and create a fight where there is none.

Thank you.....

[WhiteSnake]

Joe,

I can answer your question my dear. Not sure why you brought this up
(again) but it's been answered before for you. It's also been over two
years. Stop trying to create drama and add doubt where it's not needed.
Everything that is done with the VOA is above and beyond. Again, here's the
over 2 year old link to help you. There are pictures too!

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...ll=1#post66816

And if you're still uncomfortable, the easy solution is simply not to go to
the event. We don't want you or your agenda to feel uneasy about such things. Do
us all a favor and keep it on the other website and don't bring this here,
we don't need threads high jacked by someone with 40 posts trying to stir
the pot and create a fight where there is none.

Thank you.....

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Randall, you are much more diplomatic than I would have been. Thus I didn't reply to his "trolling" comments. Not worth it.

[Chorps]

Joe,

I can answer your question my dear. Not sure why you brought this up
(again) but it's been answered before for you. It's also been over two
years. Stop trying to create drama and add doubt where it's not needed.
Everything that is done with the VOA is above and beyond. Again, here's the
over 2 year old link to help you. There are pictures too!

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...ll=1#post66816

And if you're still uncomfortable, the easy solution is simply not to go to
the event. We don't want you or your agenda to feel uneasy about such things. Do
us all a favor and keep it on the other website and don't bring this here,
we don't need threads high jacked by someone with 40 posts trying to stir
the pot and create a fight where there is none.

Thank you.....

So what you're saying is that it's too late for a do-over? I protest!

[Coloviper]

Look at the top of the page, I think someone already pointed that out. ; )

It's a great price on a gen V, but not "free." Unfortunately. I know some creative accountants that could make it so you don't pay taxes on it. For about 3 years untill you end up in federal "pound me in the ass" prison. But this would be a tough one to slip underneath the radar.

I know it is not "Free" and you have to pay taxes on any winnings, geeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, that is common sense fellows. My point is I want a new GEN V. Ha! Ha! Kind of scared off a used one with the issues and other risks. People are so damn literal these days.

[Vprbite]

I think you would be surprised how many people think when you win something, it really is "free."

Google what happens to Price is Right winners. Many of them get waylaid when they find out they owe taxes they can't afford. I guess I should have assumed people on here knew better than that as we tend to be a bit smarter on this kind of stuff than the average prize winner. No offense meant, Colo. I meant it in general. I wasn't trying to point any fingers at you. I apologize if it seemed like I was talking down to you.

[BrianACR]

Well, up here in Canada, when you win something like a car or a lottery, it's all tax free
Yet one more reason to be happy to be Canadian.... Not that I've everwon anything though

[AZTVR]

Well, up here in Canada, when you win something like a car or a lottery, it's all tax free
Yet one more reason to be happy to be Canadian.... Not that I've everwon anything though

Yeah, but, if you were to win the Viper at the NVE, I believe that the USA taxman would still take his cut !!!
(Not sure though, since it is a material item.)

[Fatboy 18]

I remember way back when I was in Vegas, there was a Gen 1 Mc Viper on a raised podium in the casino, it was surrounded by one arm slot machines and the car was the winning prize. Would you have to pay tax on that too?

[Vprbite]

I remember way back when I was in Vegas, there was a Gen 1 Mc Viper on a raised podium in the casino, it was surrounded by one arm slot machines and the car was the winning prize. Would you have to pay tax on that too?

Yes. Though you can write off a certain amount of your gambling losses. Basically the way I think of it is that if you win a material prize, it is effectively a big bag if money for the amount of the prize is worth as far as the IRS is concerned. Being from another country may change thingsa bit. But parhaps not. You would owe on income if you worked over here and made 100k dollars so, perhaps it would be the same.

I wish it was like Canada. As rare as it is to win stuff like this, just call it a win. It's not like people are winning things instead of income. It honks me off too.

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I remember way back when I was in Vegas, there was a Gen 1 Mc Viper on a raised podium in the casino, it was surrounded by one arm slot machines and the car was the winning prize. Would you have to pay tax on that too?

Yes. Though you can write off a certain amount of your gambling losses. Basically the way I think of it is that if you win a material prize, it is effectively a big bag if money for the amount of the prize is worth as far as the IRS is concerned. Being from another country may change thingsa bit. But parhaps not. You would owe on income if you worked over here and made 100k dollars so, perhaps it would be the same.

I wish it was like Canada. As rare as it is to win stuff like this, just call it a win. It's not like people are winning things instead of income. It honks me off too.