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  1. #26
    just strip it and make it a x car

  2. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by bluesrt View Post
    just strip it and make it a x car
    Noticed we are both in STL - anyway if I wanted an X (race) car there are far less expensive options.

    Goal is to be safe street legal comfortable and drive it to the track where it belongs.

    Again the engine suspension can all be modified at VE just looking for some wider more aggressive aero panels.

    My guess if I find someone reasonable and it all works many others will want the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy 18 View Post
    Can't wait to see how your car turns out, I remember when they unveiled the GT3-R at Le mans, I said to Ralph then, that should be the road car. He said they could not do it because of the width ect, but when you consider what Lamborghini do I think they would have had much better sales from the outset. There was a road going Gen V outside the tent, but it looked nothing compared to the GT3-R

    Love that GT3 - R and agree the more track focussed package are far more appealing. The ACR - E just needs a few tweaks the engine upgrades are perfect.

    I am simply doing the research and talking to a few people.

    Lamborghini / Ferrari - it's a whole different world they have factory race cars introduced every model so the old ones are all over the place for sale at 1/2 the cost of original.
    Yes I get that, but I was referring more to outrageous bodywork designs and width of some of the Lamborghinis
    Best of luck with your quest

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    Thanks - Lamborghini teams up with Callaway and others and they have their stuff down to a science and can produce panels cheap and fast. On the Aventador SV there was an option for a BIG price to cut out the rear panel and install CF with SV written vs vinyl or hand painted while the rest of the panel would be painted.

    It's amazing how easily panels can be made now and the workmanship is perfect. The rear vents on my SV arrived in plastic I misunderstood and assumed they were CF. Anyway it was a 5500.00 option from Lambo and will now be made for 1300.00 the factory mark up on CF is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Extreme View Post
    Thanks - Lamborghini teams up with Callaway and others and they have their stuff down to a science and can produce panels cheap and fast. On the Aventador SV there was an option for a BIG price to cut out the rear panel and install CF with SV written vs vinyl or hand painted while the rest of the panel would be painted.

    It's amazing how easily panels can be made now and the workmanship is perfect. The rear vents on my SV arrived in plastic I misunderstood and assumed they were CF. Anyway it was a 5500.00 option from Lambo and will now be made for 1300.00 the factory mark up on CF is ridiculous.
    I believe it's Boeing who Lamborghini collaborates with on their carbon research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Extreme View Post
    Noticed we are both in STL - anyway if I wanted an X (race) car there are far less expensive options.

    Goal is to be safe street legal comfortable and drive it to the track where it belongs.

    Again the engine suspension can all be modified at VE just looking for some wider more aggressive aero panels.

    My guess if I find someone reasonable and it all works many others will want the same.
    remember about if you do a roll bar/ cage its safe for street use with out a helmet, banging your head on the bars on the street with no helmet, cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesrt View Post
    remember about if you do a roll bar/ cage its safe for street use with out a helmet, banging your head on the bars on the street with no helmet, cheers
    I have no desire to bust my melon on a roll bar in a fender bender.

    As far as Lambo Callaway Boeing - it's all the same.

    http://www.compositesworld.com/artic...celerates-cfrp

    My SV is filled with CFRP CF tub etc had many conversations with Lamborghini to make ones head spin.

  10. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Extreme View Post
    I have no desire to bust my melon on a roll bar in a fender bender.

    As far as Lambo Callaway Boeing - it's all the same.

    http://www.compositesworld.com/artic...celerates-cfrp

    My SV is filled with CFRP CF tub etc had many conversations with Lamborghini to make ones head spin.
    What were these conversations about if you don't mind me asking.

  11. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by NT-ACR View Post
    What were these conversations about if you don't mind me asking.
    Mostly the tub - Lambo said at one point their mold could produce X and they exceeded that number.

    Also SV logo being laid into the body panel in high gloss cf and how those two different processes would adhere long term.

    A video was posted on a Lamborghini Aventador split apart in an accident - assumed it was a major flaw.

    Spoke to the dealer which lead to many conversations and ultimately bought the SV so a big fan of their process.

    They came up with a new type of cf looks like plywood but interesting - turned out to be extremely expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Extreme View Post
    Mostly the tub - Lambo said at one point their mold could produce X and they exceeded that number.

    Also SV logo being laid into the body panel in high gloss cf and how those two different processes would adhere long term.

    A video was posted on a Lamborghini Aventador split apart in an accident - assumed it was a major flaw.

    Spoke to the dealer which lead to many conversations and ultimately bought the SV so a big fan of their process.

    They came up with a new type of cf looks like plywood but interesting - turned out to be extremely expensive.
    That looks like a short fiber reinforced thermoplastic - what did they say was new about it?

  13. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Extreme View Post
    Mostly the tub - Lambo said at one point their mold could produce X and they exceeded that number.

    Also SV logo being laid into the body panel in high gloss cf and how those two different processes would adhere long term.

    A video was posted on a Lamborghini Aventador split apart in an accident - assumed it was a major flaw.

    Spoke to the dealer which lead to many conversations and ultimately bought the SV so a big fan of their process.

    They came up with a new type of cf looks like plywood but interesting - turned out to be extremely expensive.
    Interesting about the logo. What was their response to bonding a gloss carbon piece to one that was, I'm assuming, of lesser quality (aesthetically, not structurally) due to the fact that it was a body panel and would be painted?

    I've heard of their new process. It's referred to as "forged-composite." Very interesting technology and quite a unique look. I actually quite like it but, yes, it is quite expensive. When I was looking at a Huracán, I believe the transparent engine bonnet with the carbon engine bay trim was around $7k.

    If you think this is getting the thread off topic, feel free to PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 351carlo View Post
    That looks like a short fiber reinforced thermoplastic - what did they say was new about it?

    The process of how it's made.

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    I don't see anyway that the conversion could be done for reasonable cost, just because of the hood being so massive. It would be super cool if you found a way to get it done. Personally I would be happy to just have a GT3-R style front bumper without the added width. Would look way better than the stock bumper. I have been asking for that since before I even purchased my GenV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NT-ACR View Post
    Interesting about the logo. What was their response to bonding a gloss carbon piece to one that was, I'm assuming, of lesser quality (aesthetically, not structurally) due to the fact that it was a body panel and would be painted?

    I've heard of their new process. It's referred to as "forged-composite." Very interesting technology and quite a unique look. I actually quite like it but, yes, it is quite expensive. When I was looking at a Huracán, I believe the transparent engine bonnet with the carbon engine bay trim was around $7k.

    If you think this is getting the thread off topic, feel free to PM me.

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    The process of how it's made.
    You are 100% correct. The skills and new tech is incredible - factories look to make things fast and inexpensive which equates to unskilled mass production. So when a factory says they can do something the price is insane which is simply a nice way of saying we can but we prefer not to.

    Spoke with Tom Francis - he expects costs would be around 150k but will keep his ears open for some GT3 options.

    Viktimize - GT3 style front but would also like an updated rear and stronger wing - that's where I am headed it can't be that difficult.
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    Could just wait till the IMSA season is over and buy an actual GT3-R. Ben already sold one of the chassis to a private individual. You're 150k into the car and another 150 for the mods..... New gt3-r is $450k IIRC. No idea what the used one went for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSnake View Post
    Could just wait till the IMSA season is over and buy an actual GT3-R. Ben already sold one of the chassis to a private individual. You're 150k into the car and another 150 for the mods..... New gt3-r is $450k IIRC. No idea what the used one went for.
    GT3 - R would be a nightmare to maintain.

    ACR - E engine and suspension mods from VE or other shops offers an owner a street / track car that's reliable and fast.

    As others have said - a little bit more width would be ideal then add some air ducts in the door panels

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    Maybe J.Lemke of Street Serpent/Falcon fame can help if he still does it? I don't remember the cost though. I remember the widebody G3 Vipers panels he made. Cars looked great with the width. I think the G5 would look even be with GT3R-ish body on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebit10 View Post
    Maybe J.Lemke of Street Serpent/Falcon fame can help if he still does it? I don't remember the cost though. I remember the widebody G3 Vipers panels he made. Cars looked great with the width. I think the G5 would look even be with GT3R-ish body on it.
    Will give them a try if you have their contact info would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACR Extreme View Post
    Viktimize - GT3 style front but would also like an updated rear and stronger wing - that's where I am headed it can't be that difficult.
    Cool. Well I will be keeping my ears open for what comes of it.

  21. #46
    Just came across this thread. Any updates? Would do this to my ACR in a heartbeat.

  22. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by vipervu View Post
    Just came across this thread. Any updates? Would do this to my ACR in a heartbeat.
    Last i heard, he couldn't find anyone to make the panels and dropped the project.

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    I say get a custom dyno tune...

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    I say the gt3-r , dam that car is awsome

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    Talk to Danny Fiffick at McCann Racing. They are the ones who designed and built the G5R.

    Unlike the GT3 Car, the G5R is built on a stock G5 chassis that has been seam welded and a cage added. The G5R body is 3 inches wider than the stock body. That body work could be attached to a street chassis with some work.


 
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