ACR donut

[The_Ruski_Driver]

http://www.amazon.com/Slime-1034-A-T...omotive&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Slime-COMP02-1...+tire+inflator

Don't we have a patch kit in every genv car?

[Dman]

He's really looking for a worst case scenario solution for a super long trip, like a sidewall or slicing flat that can't be plugged, I've had one on the gen4 and on my GT500 before, the interstate is more about pieces of metal and debris type flats than a nail, etc. A prudent effort really if it can be done, I just don't see how, our 6 lug deal is a real PITA in that regard. Without going custom, which is $$$, you'd have to use an adapter and ..... I dunno what else. I rely on AAA, but he's trying to get a solution he can have in the car with it being an ACR .. tough one to solve.

[ViperTony]

Don't we have a patch kit in every genv car?

Yes, the ACR comes with the compressor/sealant kit in the trunk. Should be good for flats but may not do much for sidewall damage on these thin ACR Kumho tires.

[swexlin]

Don't we have a patch kit in every genv car?

We do, and I also bought another emergency plug kit, and I think I bought a can of slime as well. I should really check to see what I did indeed out in the emergency bag in my trunk....!

[Vprbite]

Unfortunately it's the overall rolling circumference of the tires that matter, not the wheel diameter. I think the front and rear circumferences are quite different.

Bingo. Think of the tire and wheel as wagon wheels and your mind gets a clearer picture. Bigger wheel, smaller sidewall and you get the same thing as a smaller wheel and bigger sidewall. But in the rear, they better be the same height or it's like turning for several miles. I think this when I see a lifted truck on 35s and see that they have the stock little 265 spare and think to myself, if they get a flat rear they better swap tires and run that thing on the front or that diff will catch on fire. I still don't think it's a great idea on the front, but if you need to limp somewhere to get cell service or whatever I guess it's better than nothing.

I'll admit I keep slime with me in the Viper but don't really know how to use a plug kit. I really should learn.

[ViperSmith]

Fix a flat + patch kit + pump is the way to go. You really won't beat it. (as long as you don't have a catastrophic failure)

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Bingo. Think of the tire and wheel as wagon wheels and your mind gets a clearer picture. Bigger wheel, smaller sidewall and you get the same thing as a smaller wheel and bigger sidewall. But in the rear, they better be the same height or it's like turning for several miles. I think this when I see a lifted truck on 35s and see that they have the stock little 265 spare and think to myself, if they get a flat rear they better swap tires and run that thing on the front or that diff will catch on fire. I still don't think it's a great idea on the front, but if you need to limp somewhere to get cell service or whatever I guess it's better than nothing.

I'll admit I keep slime with me in the Viper but don't really know how to use a plug kit. I really should learn.

Beauty of Youtube from your phone you can learn on demand

[TrackAire]

Fix a flat + patch kit + pump is the way to go. You really won't beat it. (as long as you don't have a catastrophic failure)

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Beauty of Youtube from your phone you can learn on demand

With tire repair on a specialty vehicle like a Viper, youtube won't answer all your questions. For example, if you pick up a nail on the rear tire and realize your tire is flat, you can easily plug it and inflate it with the compressor that comes with the Viper (assuming the bead is not broken). But, the reality is to be able to get enough force to ream/probe the wound and then plug the tire, you'll probably have to remove the tire/wheel from the car so you can stand over it to push the plug through. You only have like 6" in front and behind the tire if it is on the car....almost impossible to plug a tire laying on your belly in the dirt. Having the tire off the car makes it super easy and much safer. I carry a screw jack from Walmart that will easily lift the front or rear of the Viper and takes up very little room to store. Here is an example of the type I'm describing:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/14560046?w...750905&veh=sem

Again, get a junk tire/wheel and practice plugging it. It's like riding a bike, once you learn the technique it is pretty easy. Learning to do it on the side of the road on a rainy night with cars zinging by at 60 mph.....not so easy.

[ClayR]

Call roadside assistance if you have an issue.

[Dave1968]

I just have to say, I was REALLY looking forward to seeing the ACR doing donuts. lol.

I think you us a video, what do you guys think? dbl lol!

[ek1]

Unfortunately it's the overall rolling circumference of the tires that matter, not the wheel diameter. I think the front and rear circumferences are quite different.

Yes, unfortunately Mark and all the rest of you guys are correct. I did not pay attention to tire sizes and thought that just because both front and rear wheels are listed at 19", tires diameter would be the same. Not so! Looked at Tire Rack and of course fronts are P295/25ZR19 90Y LL and rears are P355/30ZR19 99Y LL. So rear tires are significantly wider (irrelevant as far as spare tire is concerned) and front tire sidewall is 73.75mm while the rear tire sidewall is 106.5mm. So if you get the spare to match the front, it will destroy the differential if mounted in the rear due to overall wheel diameter being different, but if you get the spare to match the rear, the wheel probably won't fit in the front.

Guess I'll be getting phone numbers of everyone living between Nebraska and New York .

[ek1]

I just have to say, I was REALLY looking forward to seeing the ACR doing donuts. lol.

I think you us a video, what do you guys think? dbl lol!

Dave,

I'll try it once I get the car and get through the break-in period. I have to find someone to teach me though

[Malu59RT]

I just have to say, I was REALLY looking forward to seeing the ACR doing donuts. lol.

I think you us a video, what do you guys think? dbl lol!

Being a fat guy, I was really looking forward to seeing ACR shaped donuts

[Bill Pemberton]

There are definitely some good folks along the way ......Plumcrazy I guess, isn't ( damn good idea ).

[swexlin]

Ek1, I don't think I'm on your route, but PM me if you want my number anyway. I do have a truck.....

[parabs]

I don't think you will find a wheel to go over the brake calipers and small enough to go in the trunk. I would not worry about it. You have the tire inflator and sealant already in the trunk

do you have a pic/part number for the factory inflator? I have recently discovered this as an OEM part for the Gen 4's and I would like to add it to my gen 3.

[steve911]

Just call your local dealer and ask for the info later. The same inflator is used on many different FCA cars. It is a good idea to have one in your GEN 3. After I graduated from run flats, I added one of the inflators to my' 04.

[TrackAire]

do you have a pic/part number for the factory inflator? I have recently discovered this as an OEM part for the Gen 4's and I would like to add it to my gen 3.

For about $35.00 at your local Walmart you can also pick up a version made by Slime:

http://www.slime.com/us/products/aut...fety-spair.php

[gcrain]

If the wheel won't fit in the trunk, it will go into the front passenger seat. My post is about finding the tire (brand/part #, where to buy etc). I'll figure out how to get it inside the car one way or another.

As far as "not worrying about it"....yes, I need to worry about it. It's a 1,250 mile trip. Nobody will have these tires in stock except Tire Rack and a few online stores. Any tow truck, even a flatbed will cause thousands of dollars of damage to splitters and underbody. I will be stuck on the side of the road for many hours, possibly in a dangerous spot where other cars may hit mine. All because I did not worry about having a donut. Hell of a way to spice up a road trip.

Sealant only works for minor punctures (nails, etc). It does not work for damage caused by hitting a pothole or road debris. Don't ask me how I know that.

Been there, done that. Took 3 months to get my car back after the tow truck destroyed a control arm and Dodge couldn't provide the right part.

[Terminator02]

The viper truly isn't the vehicle for the one who thinks of every pitfall that could happen. It's not a practical car so using only practical Logic will lead to conundrums like this. You could potentially spin a bearing on your way home at a similar likelihood of getting irreparable flat imho. Both are extremely unlikely scenarios. You could always remove the extreme aero before putting the car on a flat bed. AAA will send the best clearance flatbed when they ask yo the vehicle. My gen 2 had no clearance issues. Stating the drivers damage half the cars is a bad over generalization of a group of people. Again, the viper is not a completely practical car so expecting a completely practical solution for a hypothesized low chance scenario is a disconnect with buying this car in the first place. This car needs to be enjoyed and you need to be the one to enjoy it. The long trip sounds like a blast so I do hope you have fun on your way. Congrats on a beautiful vehicle.

[speedtactics]

So true. If you worry about "What if" all the time you won't enjoy anything! "What if Spartacus had a piper cub!"

[texasram]

No, not that type

So I have this (wonderful/stupid, depending on who you ask) idea to drive my car from Woodhouse to NYC to cover most of the break-in period. Obviously there is no spare in the ACR, so with my luck I know I am going to be stuck in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night with 3 functional wheels.

Does anyone know what kind of a donut (space saver) tire would work on an ACR? I am talking about those wheels that come deflated (obviously you need a compressor) and can be used up to 50mph for like 100 miles or so?

My other car has 21" wheels and the donut I have on now is about 28" in diameter (rim with inflated tire) and about 5.5" wide. Since an ACR has 19" rims, I think the donut can be at least 2" smaller in diameter, which would make it possible to fit it either in the front seat or possibly in the trunk when fully deflated.

Any ideas?

I would love to ride behind that and see the tire width difference, ide be lmao

[ek1]

I am happy to report that 6 states, 2 countries and 1,540 miles later, both I and the car made it home in 1 piece, with 4 tires intact. And yes, I enjoyed it tremendously and would do it again in a heartbeat. Donuts be damned

viper trip.jpg

[Chorps]

The only donut in my ACR is unfortunately around my waist. :P

Congrats on the safe journey.

[Arizona Vipers]

I am happy to report that 6 states, 2 countries and 1,540 miles later, both I and the car made it home in 1 piece, with 4 tires intact. And yes, I enjoyed it tremendously and would do it again in a heartbeat. Donuts be damned

viper trip.jpg

Awesome!!!! I don't see the 2nd country in that screencap though? Did you go into Canada? I just did a similar trip with my family, Arizona to Memphis/Nashville/Mammoth Caves Kentucky/Niagara Falls/Toronto/NYC and back. 7000 miles. We were in a comfy SUV though hehe.