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    What is the average Gen 1 and 2 oil consumption ?

    I was just curios as to what Gen 1&2 viper owners are seeing as far as average oil consumption between oil changes and if it varies from standard oil to synthetic. I have yet to hit the oil change mileage since I purchased amd changed and just want to know what I should expect when I do my oil..

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    Uh, update here slick. Your car isn't supposed to consume oil. The correct amount is zero

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    Uhhh update slick, every modern combustion engine ever built since the day they were invented, consumes a certain amount of oil. You will never put in 5 qts and get EXACTLY 5 qts out...But I'm sure you already knew that..

    If someone without the "know it all chip on their shoulder" wants to respond, feel free...

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    I've only owned my 2001 since September but I've driven it over 2,000 miles. I bought it with 16,000 miles on it and it's a little over 18,000 now. The oil is still on the full line on the dipstick. From what I've read these motors don't use alot of oil unless you have ring/valve issues. There are alot of people here who've driven alot more miles in Vipers than me that can answer this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dajerseyviper View Post
    Uhhh update slick, every modern combustion engine ever built since the day they were invented, consumes a certain amount of oil. You will never put in 5 qts and get EXACTLY 5 qts out...But I'm sure you already knew that..

    If someone without the "know it all chip on their shoulder" wants to respond, feel free...
    Uhhh, update slick, unless there's a problem with your modern car, they don't use oil............

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    The Viper motors are not suppose to consume any oil. Yes the new GEN V ones have an issue which they we correcting with some recalls but the older ones really don't use any. I put 9,000 miles on the 06' I had from new and it never used anything of note. My ole 96' RT/10, I bought used and put on about 4,000 miles and again no noticeable drop. If yours is NA, stock and using oil, then you likely have an issue somewhere. If you are running a power adder then it can use a little. Hell my 06' Cayenne Turbo S which I put on 123,000 miles, it eats about a quart every 1,500 miles. Those Turbos and little leaks on a lot of the million faset points just seem to use a little. Nothing ever hits the ground but you see weep points in spots. My wife's 04' Cayenne Turbo uses about 1 quart every 3,500 miles. Again those Turbos consume some.

    If I was you, I would not worry too much. If you are not seeing the usual signs of rings, blow by or smoke out the exhaust, or leaks under the car, it should be minimal. Don't be quick to diagnose a quadruple bypass when all you have is indigestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNKEBIT View Post
    Uhhh, update slick, unless there's a problem with your modern car, they don't use oil............
    Ok slick, let have a typical Internet know it all debate then.
    https://www.cars.com/articles/how-mu...1420682864535/
    http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/233

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    My observation.
    I change my oil once a year before it goes in storage for 5 to 6 months. Average use a year is 4,000 +/- km ( 2,500 miles) I do at least 1 track day, hopefully 2.
    I use Mobil 1 5w40 and I'm usually down quarter to half liter. A cupful at most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloviper View Post
    The Viper motors are not suppose to consume any oil. Yes the new GEN V ones have an issue which they we correcting with some recalls but the older ones really don't use any. I put 9,000 miles on the 06' I had from new and it never used anything of note. My ole 96' RT/10, I bought used and put on about 4,000 miles and again no noticeable drop. If yours is NA, stock and using oil, then you likely have an issue somewhere. If you are running a power adder then it can use a little. Hell my 06' Cayenne Turbo S which I put on 123,000 miles, it eats about a quart every 1,500 miles. Those Turbos and little leaks on a lot of the million faset points just seem to use a little. Nothing ever hits the ground but you see weep points in spots. My wife's 04' Cayenne Turbo uses about 1 quart every 3,500 miles. Again those Turbos consume some.

    If I was you, I would not worry too much. If you are not seeing the usual signs of rings, blow by or smoke out the exhaust, or leaks under the car, it should be minimal. Don't be quick to diagnose a quadruple bypass when all you have is indigestion.
    I was just wondering what the average is. I have has to add about 3/4 to 1 quart over the past 2 years(4000 miles) . I have had some performance motors that ate 3 to 4 quarts between oil changes with no blow by or smoke, but they were loose built motors.

    I have no visible leaks ony car amd figured I'm within the normal range for a V10 performance motor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave6666 View Post
    Uh, update here slick. Your car isn't supposed to consume oil. The correct amount is zero
    Agreed, I maybe have put in one quart, more like 1/2 quart between each oil change.
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    I put about 6k miles on my viper every few months. May lose, 1/4 of a quart. Never enough to bother toping off

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    Zero oil consumption on mine.

    Edit: synthetic, though it doesn't matter.

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    My car uses a Lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy 18 View Post
    My car uses a Lot!
    You forgot to put the cap on again?

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    A lot of 'slicks' in here...

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    Can we please start using Slick's first name and their last initial so we can keep them straight?

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    I'm gonna call everyone "slick"from now on..

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    98 GTS here. No detectable usage here at just under 40K. Even after a track day. 0W-40 Mobil 1. 5 to 6K miles a year the past 3 years.

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    Both Gen 1 and 2 have had zero oil consumption between oil changes with Mobil1 10w-30 .

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    I found alot of people on forums talk out of there ass without even know facts, . Oil consuption will happen to anymotor wheather u know it or not. I had a gen 2 and i would say 1 qrt to 3000 miles. Most "slicks" here dont even change their own oil to relize how much is missing. Once again it al depends how many miles and how hard u drive it. But u do get oil consuption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagopd50 View Post
    I found alot of people on forums talk out of there ass without even know facts, . Oil consuption will happen to anymotor wheather u know it or not. I had a gen 2 and i would say 1 qrt to 3000 miles. Most "slicks" here dont even change their own oil to relize how much is missing. Once again it al depends how many miles and how hard u drive it. But u do get oil consuption.
    I have to agree with this. In fact I'll go one step further and say that any Gen Viper, especially Gen I and II will consume copious amounts of oil if driven hard or driven like a Ricer. The definition of Driving like a Ricer is simple............ most of the Gen II video's I've seen here and elsewhere, display it perfectly. It's when you drive and hold gears unnecessarily long and then let off the gas at speed without engaging the clutch and finding an appropriate gear. This driving style as well as heavy track use will create high engine vacuum conditions under deccel. The OEM crankcase PCV system will suck up oil like crazy under these conditions. I can assure you that even Vipers driven like little old ladys will have their intake manifold full of oil with the stock system. Pull any early cars heads, even with low mileage and they will show heavy carbon loading on the pistons. I hope this answers your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagopd50 View Post
    I found alot of people on forums talk out of there ass without even know facts, . Oil consuption will happen to anymotor wheather u know it or not. I had a gen 2 and i would say 1 qrt to 3000 miles. Most "slicks" here dont even change their own oil to relize how much is missing. Once again it al depends how many miles and how hard u drive it. But u do get oil consuption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camfab View Post
    I have to agree with this. In fact I'll go one step further and say that any Gen Viper, especially Gen I and II will consume copious amounts of oil if driven hard or driven like a Ricer. The definition of Driving like a Ricer is simple............ most of the Gen II video's I've seen here and elsewhere, display it perfectly. It's when you drive and hold gears unnecessarily long and then let off the gas at speed without engaging the clutch and finding an appropriate gear. This driving style as well as heavy track use will create high engine vacuum conditions under deccel. The OEM crankcase PCV system will suck up oil like crazy under these conditions. I can assure you that even Vipers driven like little old ladys will have their intake manifold full of oil with the stock system. Pull any early cars heads, even with low mileage and they will show heavy carbon loading on the pistons. I hope this answers your question.
    This is what I thought, but certain guys named "slick" are know it alls and have to take jabs whenever they can..But they really do not know as much as they THINK they know.. ;-) FYI I kinda drive my car like a ricer I guess. I do a lot of rev matching and engine braking or down shifting when slowing or going into turns... :-)

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    I can use at least 2 to 3 ltrs between oil changes, I drive the car hard, regularly fill up a puke tank. No exterior engine leaks. do not notice any excessive blue smoke from the rear but I love letting the engine do the braking and listening to the exhaust over run. popping and cracking. Valve guide oil seals may be suspect? The throttle body on the left hand side of the engine always used to have a black dirty film of oil on it (prior to fitting a catch can). Car still pulls like a train and I have not noticed any performance drop? Car is not a garage queen and I do look after it more than most but it does use oil? Spark plugs do not seem fouled either? Rings may be suspect? Hell I don't know, I just keep driving it
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    Sorry guys, I am a mechanic for a living, the only cars that use oil around here are the ones with 150K + on them. The local Vipers here don't use any.


 
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