Roll Bar Works Better When Not Bolted Down...

[2Luke2]

Replaced the clutch master/slave cylinder on our Heffner TT car. Took the drivers seat out to make it easier to get the master out. Long story short found the rollbar that was spray painted in the car(obvious overspray) isn't bolted down. Also looked like the clutch fluid had never been changed.

Here is the rollbar not bolted down.
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Here's what the old master cylinder looked like on the inside.
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Another of the master cylinder.
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Here's what the clutch reservoir looked like.
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Here's the clutch reservoir after my wife cleaned it.
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[2Luke2]

Added bonus, someone who thinks is a great idea to half ass changing caliper colors. Words of wisdom, if you're going to half ass something don't waste your time please. You only cause more work for others.

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Edit: And yes I know the rotors are cracked, new brembo GT calipers/rotors are on the way.

[Fatboy 18]

Re the BAER Eraddispeed 2 piece rotors on your car, those small cracks are nothing to worry about and it looks like you have a lot of meat left on those rotors. The cracks are only a problem if they join up and go right across the disc. Bare Rotors are supplied for Corvettes and the cracking is mentioned in the GM Handbook.

Bolts can be used again, all you need is replacement Rotors if you are worried about the cracking. If you want to avoid the cracking issue you can get Slotted only rotors from BAER but the revised rotors have a slightly different hole pattern and you will also need their revised hats OR if you are a good engineer with a bench drill you could rotate your existing hats and drill new holes to match the replacement rotors.
See pics here https://www.flickr.com/photos/905823...57648752133313

[MalingatorGTS]

WOW, I'd say I'm surprised but sad to say, some people think that is normal quality work. Some have zero pride in what they do. At least you found it all now before something failed and you or others got hurt.

[Fatboy 18]

I have seen another roll bar not bolted down at floor level, reason was that not all mounting points fit exactly right, With my own roll bar I had to put a solid bar spacer between the bottom of one of the brackets, You must also use a flat plate on the outside of the chassis after the holes have been drilled, some people just put a round washer in place but that will not pass safety inspection.

[2Luke2]

Re the BAER Eraddispeed 2 piece rotors on your car, those small cracks are nothing to worry about and it looks like you have a lot of meat left on those rotors. The cracks are only a problem if they join up and go right across the disc. Bare Rotors are supplied for Corvettes and the cracking is mentioned in the GM Handbook.

Bolts can be used again, all you need is replacement Rotors if you are worried about the cracking. If you want to avoid the cracking issue you can get Slotted only rotors from BAER but the revised rotors have a slightly different hole pattern and you will also need their revised hats OR if you are a good engineer with a bench drill you could rotate your existing hats and drill new holes to match the replacement rotors.
See pics here https://www.flickr.com/photos/905823...57648752133313

That's great to know! Thanks Fatboy, we already ordered a new set of 4 pot Brembo GTs. So the rotors and calipers will be replaced on all four corners, however maybe they can find a new home for someone else. I'll be sure to give them a great deal

WOW, I'd say I'm surprised but sad to say, some people think that is normal quality work. Some have zero pride in what they do. At least you found it all now before something failed and you or others got hurt.

Yep, definitely not the only shortcuts we found on the car. Another good one were a few injector harness plugs that were only using black tape to hold the pig tail for aftermarket injectors. And these are what our turbo headers looked like after we unwrapped them.

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I have seen another roll bar not bolted down at floor level, reason was that not all mounting points fit exactly right, With my own roll bar I had to put a solid bar spacer between the bottom of one of the brackets, You must also use a flat plate on the outside of the chassis after the holes have been drilled, some people just put a round washer in place but that will not pass safety inspection.

It looks like it fits really well on the driver side honestly. Today we are going to take the passenger seat out and remove the whole bar. Since they spray painted it in the car it's chipping everywhere. Going to have it powder coated with the rest of the items we would like to get powder coated.

[2Luke2]

And just because I have the pictures out.

This is what we found when we pulled a spark plug wire off the coilpack.
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Crap on the back of the engine.
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It's caked on there pretty good!
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Here's the passenger side of the engine. Oil baked on from the front to the back.
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Driver side, same oil issue. The starter was dripping with oil. Not sure where it was coming from since it goes above the turbo oil line on the block.
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[2Luke2]

Wife starting the cleaning/bagging of the engine bay lines, you can see the solid motor mounts here. One she has cleaned, one she has not haha, huge difference.
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And a good beginning to a good end, the block all cleaned up/inspected for major damage and ready to be crated and shipped off to Exotic Engines for machine work.
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[AZTVR]

Long story short found the rollbar that was spray painted in the car(obvious overspray) isn't bolted down.
Here is the rollbar not bolted down.

Jeez, You would have thought that they would have at least cut the heads off of some bolts and epoxied them in those empty mounting holes! What kind of amateurs did that ? LOL !

[99RT10]

WOW, I'd say I'm surprised but sad to say, some people think that is normal quality work. Some have zero pride in what they do. At least you found it all now before something failed and you or others got hurt.

Agreed, those rotors are questionable on the street, do not use them on the track.

[Fatboy 18]

From Baer's website:

"Although crossdrilling and/or slotting will provide a welcome path to expend any gasses when and if they develop, it is primarily a visual enhancement behind today’s often wide-open wheel designs."

and

"Baer" rotors are cast with cross drilling in mind, from the material specified, to curved vanes, behind which the holes are placed to minimize potential crack migration. Slotted surfaces are what Baer recommends for track only use."

http://www.baer.com/Support

Read more: http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...#ixzz3zZ13LVjt

[Camfab]

Yours is a shining example of why people stay away from modded cars, particularly the Hennesey variety. At least your doing the car right and cleaning up all the problems. Are you going to build a new set of headers? Not bolting a roll bar in should be a crime, that could have caused you serious injury in a wreck.

[EricMcClellan]

Holy crap that caliper paint is something else... No wonder you're going through the rest of the car, with crap like that!!

[thetalonguy]

And just because I have the pictures out.

Crap on the back of the engine.
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You're going to replace that rear crankshaft oil seal while you're in there, right?

I had trouble finding the seal itself last month and just ended up going for a whole new OEM plate cover/seal combo. Mine wasn't leaking, but replaced it while I was in there. Also, make sure to clean off the threads of those flywheel bolts.

[2Luke2]

You're going to replace that rear crankshaft oil seal while you're in there, right?

I had trouble finding the seal itself last month and just ended up going for a whole new OEM plate cover/seal combo. Mine wasn't leaking, but replaced it while I was in there. Also, make sure to clean off the threads of those flywheel bolts.

Yep, ever seal is being replaced. We are using this seal from VSP. It's a foam/metal seal instead of the "paper" seal. I think the only gaskets we are reusing are the valve covers. Even the pan gasket needed to be replaced. It was the old plastic one and was split/cracked all over the place.

[Fatboy 18]

I think he was talking about the ROUND CRANKSHAFT OIL SEALIn the centre of the cover

Tators Garage carry them, Give Chuck a call or JonB

[thetalonguy]

I think he was talking about the ROUND CRANKSHAFT OIL SEALIn the centre of the cover

Tators Garage carry them, Give Chuck a call or JonB

Yup :-) that one... Actually, I asked JonB first and he had trouble just finding the seal. I'm impatient, so I ordered OEM cover/seal combo from him.

[Vprbite]

Yes the rollbar works better when not bolted. It's like a floating barrel in a rifle. They mean the same thing, don't they?

Yea that should be a crime. Not bolting in a rollbar that you were supposed to install is manslaughter in my opinion if someone had died. That's like not filling up brake fluid. Complete dereliction of duty.

[2Luke2]

Had a local machine shop check out the heads. We have a couple of bent valves, couple of holes need helicoiled, all the beehive springs have different rates from 100lb to 150lb. The heads need to be milled as well to flatten them out.

Most all the bushings need to be replaced, including end links and tie rods. Our poly bushings came in yesterday. Going to be replacing everything under the wheel wells except the knuckles/wheel bearings. Only thing left to source is lower ball joints.

Found them here: https://www.howeracing.com/p-7942-howe-22408-viper.aspx though holy heck they are $83.70 each. If anyone has a source for the stock ones I would appreciate any info(not looking for used). If not going to be buying a set of those. We are replacing them in hopes that we don't have to tear the car apart again for a bit once we put it together.

[Camfab]

Well one things for certain, it should be awesome after you get it from Exotic. Where did you find a wife willing to clean car parts, that's a rare find!!!

[2Luke2]

Well one things for certain, it should be awesome after you get it from Exotic. Where did you find a wife willing to clean car parts, that's a rare find!!!

Agreed on both counts haha! You would think I was lying if I told you.

[RTTTTed]

I PM`d you my website link to cheap Ball Joint, tie rod ends and End links from my website. VG

[RTTTTed]

The plates for bolting the rollbar to the floor are 6`x 6`x .120` 4 3/8`Grade 5 (min.) bolts. Might be different since you`re bolting t the frame. Just search NHRA rules. should be online.

[2Luke2]

The plates for bolting the rollbar to the floor are 6`x 6`x .120` 4 3/8`Grade 5 (min.) bolts. Might be different since you`re bolting t the frame. Just search NHRA rules. should be online.

Thanks for the info RTTTTed! Looks like the local event here is requiring a 4 point cage. So we are debating if we want to go that far to compete there.