Fast shifting!

[13COBRA]

I upgraded to the short throw barrel shifter and its amazing.

My only gripe is that it is so short I have smashed my pinky finger between the barrel and the shifter bezel. I wish they made a taller barrel shifter, maybe just another inch so I dont smash when im going WOT and shift fast.

I have the cure for you.

I installed the MGW short throw, plus the barrel shifter, loved them, but hated how physically short it was.

I ordered IPSCO 2" shifter knob adapter, BINGO! Works perfect, great height and feels firm. I couldn't be happier.

[serpent]

I have the cure for you.

I installed the MGW short throw, plus the barrel shifter, loved them, but hated how physically short it was.

I ordered IPSCO 2" shifter knob adapter, BINGO! Works perfect, great height and feels firm. I couldn't be happier.

+1

Gonna have to sit in the car and decide between 1 1/4" or 2".

[13COBRA]

+1

Gonna have to sit in the car and decide between 1 1/4" or 2".

I have big hands, and decided I'd rather it be a little tall, than a little short.

It worked out great. I'll go snap a picture in a few for you.


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[texasram]

I have big hands, and decided I'd rather it be a little tall, than a little short.

It worked out great. I'll go snap a picture in a few for you.


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Nice steering wheel

[MellowYellow_GTS]

Wait so you can no lift shift these cars just by tapping the clutch?
Is this a factory feature like they have on some GM cars?

[Viper.954]

I can see this is a old thread that has been revived. My nemesis has always been 3rd gear in the Viper. It's 50/50. It's terrifying when I hit the gate instead of 3rd gear. I had the same issue in my Gen 2 and an 03 Terminator with the same transmission. I ever missed with a small block and a T5 or a Top Loader.

[13COBRA]

Nice steering wheel

Thanks! DCT Motorsports made it for me. You can see more of it in the video below.

I can see this is a old thread that has been revived. My nemesis has always been 3rd gear in the Viper. It's 50/50. It's terrifying when I hit the gate instead of 3rd gear. I had the same issue in my Gen 2 and an 03 Terminator with the same transmission. I ever missed with a small block and a T5 or a Top Loader.

Best thing I can say is to shift like this. Go forward to 3:55 (but disregard anything after the 9:00 mark haha)

[pdv25]

My no lift shifts. Just takes some practice.

[MellowYellow_GTS]

But you guys are literally keeping the throttle pinned the whole time?

[SRT_BluByU]

Pete - How have your transmission and differential held up?

[Anton28]

I just tried this no lift shit and almost killed myself lol car kicked out so hard 1st to 2nd with full traction on. Then after finding my balls i tried 2nd to 3rd and that wasn’t very “safe” feeling either. Maybe it’s my tires? I’m running a 21” with a 355.

[Steve M]

I just tried this no lift shit and almost killed myself lol car kicked out so hard 1st to 2nd with full traction on. Then after finding my balls i tried 2nd to 3rd and that wasn’t very “safe” feeling either. Maybe it’s my tires? I’m running a 21” with a 355.

I'll never attempt a hard 1-2 shift on the street on anything less than a drag radial, and even then it's questionable.

[MellowYellow_GTS]

I just tried this no lift shit and almost killed myself lol car kicked out so hard 1st to 2nd with full traction on. Then after finding my balls i tried 2nd to 3rd and that wasn’t very “safe” feeling either. Maybe it’s my tires? I’m running a 21” with a 355.

Haha!! Other than the tire blow out, did the car seem to be okay with it? I'm not trying to blow out my clutch or something.

Btw I think you recently liked a picture of mine on Instagram haha, it's OFF2theGYM

[Steve M]

Haha!! Other than the tire blow out, did the car seem to be okay with it? I'm not trying to blow out my clutch or something.

Btw I think you recently liked a picture of mine on Instagram haha, it's OFF2theGYM

You won't blow your clutch unless you try launching hard at the drag strip, kinda like this:



The RPM hang off the line was not tire spin, it was the clutch slipping. That was my 4th pass on drag radials, and the clutch was toast.

As long as you aren't doing that, you'll be fine.

[MellowYellow_GTS]

You won't blow your clutch unless you try launching hard at the drag strip, kinda like this:



The RPM hang off the line was not tire spin, it was the clutch slipping. That was my 4th pass on drag radials, and the clutch was toast.

As long as you aren't doing that, you'll be fine.

Dang! Thanks for sharing lol

[nwa_viper]

Dang! Thanks for sharing lol

Darin, get out there and bang some gears!

[sadil]

I just tried this no lift shit and almost killed myself lol car kicked out so hard 1st to 2nd with full traction on. Then after finding my balls i tried 2nd to 3rd and that wasn’t very “safe” feeling either. Maybe it’s my tires? I’m running a 21” with a 355.

I haven’t tried the no lift shift from 1-2 or 2-3, I was doing 3-4 on the main straight away during a track day and it worked like a charm. I have no doubts that it would work for other gears but you have to be full throttle commited. Not really something you should be trying on the street unless it’s totally empty. Were you full pedal down commited? How did you clutch? Anything short of a lightning fast tap’n’go is too slow. Try 2-3 before you try 1-2.

[MellowYellow_GTS]

Darin, get out there and bang some gears!

Hahaha have you tried the no lift yet Richard?!

[nwa_viper]

Hahaha have you tried the no lift yet Richard?!

I’ve thought about it several times but never done it. I’ll have to do it now that it sounds like the cars like it so much.

[Steve M]

I’ve thought about it several times but never done it. I’ll have to do it now that it sounds like the cars like it so much.

I wouldn't say "like it"...they tolerate it, but don't kid yourself into thinking it doesn't wear parts out faster.

[Anton28]

Haha!! Other than the tire blow out, did the car seem to be okay with it? I'm not trying to blow out my clutch or something.

Btw I think you recently liked a picture of mine on Instagram haha, it's OFF2theGYM

Everything else seemed fine. It shifted smooth and proper. Cool!

[Anton28]

I haven’t tried the no lift shift from 1-2 or 2-3, I was doing 3-4 on the main straight away during a track day and it worked like a charm. I have no doubts that it would work for other gears but you have to be full throttle commited. Not really something you should be trying on the street unless it’s totally empty. Were you full pedal down commited? How did you clutch? Anything short of a lightning fast tap’n’go is too slow. Try 2-3 before you try 1-2.

I was definitely full pedal down lol Im going to keep playing around with it. I can see how 3-4 and 4-5 shifts would be safer and better utilize this strategy.

[kriskyk]

No lift shifting doesn't necessarily mean having the pedal pinned to the floor, just means you not backing off it...

[John Baird]

Great way to shorten the life of your clutch and transmission.

[ViperPete]

Pete - How have your transmission and differential held up?

Tranny is perfect. Diff developed a slight whine before I ever learned how to shift like this. Diff replaced under warranty. I doubt that the diff whine was related to the shifting Speed shifting like this is completely smooth and there is zero jarring feeling. The drive train is under almost constant load.

Gas pedal is flat to the floor. I am basically "tapping" the clutch pedal between shifts for a slight moment. It's hard to describe - but the sound and the acceleration is incredible.

The drivetrain being under almost constant load is what makes it feel more stable honestly. No head bopping off the headrest between shifts. I can't imagine how shifting like this damages anything or adds increased wear.
You can hear in my video that the RPM's are fairly constant so the clutch isn't slipping anyway.

My Viper has 17,000 miles on it now by the way. Clutch engagement is perfect. Car drives perfect. Been to three 1/2 mile events and easily 40 runs down the track.