CEL code p0519 idle speed performance

[timberwolf]

Any clues guys? Only 2k miles.. Between this, the melting pai t and the whiney diff and no decent srt sevice department i dont foresee keeping this car very long

[swexlin]

What's the temp outside? Perhaps a wonky sensor for idle? Dunno. I've not had any paint issues. My diff sings a little at 60+ in a high gear, but I have to turn down the music to really hear it.

Perhaps some who's had this code can chime in.

[timberwolf]

What's the temp outside? Perhaps a wonky sensor for idle? Dunno. I've not had any paint issues. My diff sings a little at 60+ in a high gear, but I have to turn down the music to really hear it.

Perhaps some who's had this code can chime in.

Its 46 degrees out... I wonder if the arrow pcm is doing it

[ViperSmith]

Where are you having the paint issues?

[Policy Limits]

I have a love hate relationship with mine. Understand the frustration.

[swexlin]

I have a love hate relationship with mine. Understand the frustration.

For good or bad, this has always been part of the Viper (and Mopar) experience.

Back on point - can anyone help Timberwolf with his code?

[Jack B]

You have an arrow pcm, just a guess, but, SRT might not have any obligation for the repair.

Here are some insights

1. The IAC is the most obvious.culprit.

2 a vacuum leak is also possible.

I would use a scan to see if any other codes are present.

[Ninjakris]

I would definitely swap in our OEM PCM and see if the code persists. I've not had to swap back and forth, but from what I read, it only takes a few minutes. If the code persists, you know its not a PCM issue.

[timberwolf]

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Where are you having the paint issues?

Side sill where the door meets the inner duct of the side scoops

I have a love hate relationship with mine. Understand the frustration.

Yup nothing but gremlins

For good or bad, this has always been part of the Viper (and Mopar) experience.

Back on point - can anyone help Timberwolf with his code?

You have an arrow pcm, just a guess, but, SRT might not have any obligation for the repair.

Here are some insights

1. The IAC is the most obvious.culprit.
Iac??

2 a vacuum leak is also possible.
We checked

I would use a scan to see if any other codes are present.

Same thing comes up.. Power is not cut however

I would definitely swap in our OEM PCM and see if the code persists. I've not had to swap back and forth, but from what I read, it only takes a few minutes. If the code persists, you know its not a PCM issue.

Yeah i need to do this.. But i need to have the dealer recode after when putting pcm back in right?

[Dman]

I'd be surprised if it's the PCM, I've swapped my Arrow and stocker multiple times, I've never gotten a code with either other than a O2 code when the exhaust was swapped during the first 50 miles, which cleared on its own.

No dealer for swapping. Takes 7 mins if you're slow. Disconnect your ground in the trunk. Take out the 3 bolts holding the PCM on, flip the snaps and pull the 4 connectors and then reverse it. It's cake. But you'd need to swap,anyway if you end up having to take her in for this. What year is your car?

[ViperSmith]

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Side sill where the door meets the inner duct of the side scoops

Shoot 7TH_SIGN a PM, he had this issue and I think it is resolved now.

[darbgnik]

Shoot 7TH_SIGN a PM, he had this issue and I think it is resolved now.

Care to share? Seems like there's a few cars who have paint issues next to the side sill.

[ViperSmith]

Care to share? Seems like there's a few cars who have paint issues next to the side sill.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...bling-in-Paint

[BJG32]

Shoot 7TH_SIGN a PM, he had this issue and I think it is resolved now.

Hiflow cats.

[zzmike]

Your car does not have IACs (Idle Air Control) motors or solenoids. Idle is completely controlled by a combination of throttle plate manipulation and ignition timing.

This code sets when the min/max delta for commanded RPM is not achieved for a predetermined amount of time, the vehicle is at operating temperature and there are no other codes set for throttle and fuel related faults. It take two bad trips to set the fault, and three good tips to clear it.

The most common causes of this fault are loose connections where the intake tubes mount to the throttle bodies, leaking PCV system, other vacuum leak.

Other causes include a poor electrical connection at one of the throttle bodies, faulty throttle body, and ultimately a bad PCM. These instances are much more rare, I would start by looking for loose air plumbing and ensure there are no vacuum leaks.

If you would like the rundown of the factory procedure, send me a PM, I will try to get the information to you over the weekend.

Mike

[Jack B]

That is the hot spot

Care to share? Seems like there's a few cars who have paint issues next to the side sill.

[7TH_SIGN]

Shoot 7TH_SIGN a PM, he had this issue and I think it is resolved now.

Care to share? Seems like there's a few cars who have paint issues next to the side sill.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...bling-in-Paint

Hiflow cats.

Hi,

Yeah that was me. Not all GEN Vs are seeing this issue but there are some and a couple of people have PM'ed me about theirs seeing the same thing. It took a good amount of leg work on my end, contacting Prefix and Chrysler and getting them in communication but I was able to have Chrysler cover under warranty two new panels painted and shipped from Prefix. They allowed me to do the install since I didn't want the dealership touching the car. The first set of replacement panels bubbled and blistered up immediately after installing them and driving the car. So we then knew this was being caused by excessive heat from the second catalytic converter.

They sent me two more replacement panels however I made the decision in completely removing all four catalytic converters. I purchased an Agency Power catless exhaust system and installed it. Not only did it resolve the paint issue, but it also dropped temperatures in the side sills and cabin drastically.

I was in close correspondence with both Chrysler and Prefix on the matter and was their "guinea pig" in order to resolve the problem. I had a couple conference calls with Viper engineers and Prefix. I believe the issue has now been addressed last I spoke with Marvin at Chrysler America. They used my old panels as references which I sent back to them.

Don't give up on the car. I know it can be frustrating as I also had some issues with mine but now that I got them all sorted out I am enjoying the GEN V very much! Also I know our dealerships are nightmares to deal with but rest assure that Chrysler American will do everything they can to make you happy and resolve any issues they are at fault for.

[timberwolf]

Well quick update. I was getting my car ready to hit the service department, so I swapped the stock PCM in and noticed the CEL was gone. I will need to drive it for a bit to confirm this. More to come.

[roadrunner]

You may want to contact Arrow and make sure you have the latest cal... I believe there have been updates since the first versions. It may address your concern... or not... but it won't hurt to check.

[timberwolf]

You may want to contact Arrow and make sure you have the latest cal... I believe there have been updates since the first versions. It may address your concern... or not... but it won't hurt to check.

Yeah I need to do that. Still strange to me since I had this done by the dealer who sold me the car.

[16vipersrt10]

i have the same code appear twice and cleared it the 1st time, p 0519. i have 16 viper with smooth tubes, headers, high flow cats, exhaust, and arrow pcm. Did you ever figure out what causes code?
thank you