VCA Forum Fairies Strike Again!

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments about VCA have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[MoparBoyy]

yeah they are back on the rampage.. i was put into moderated status the other day.

[BlknBlu]

Why are we even interested in what they are doing. Leave them alone.

Bruce

[XSnake]

Why are we even interested in what they are doing. Leave them alone.

Bruce

If they intend to sue that is something that does concern people on this site.

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments about VCA have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[Sybil TF]

Why are we even interested in what they are doing. Leave them alone.

Bruce

Yeah, who cares. Let it burn...

[100]

Why are we even interested in what they are doing. Leave them alone.

Bruce

Second that, The members of the VCA are viper owners -- I'll drink with the members anytime. Sam, be constructive and put a Roe Supercharger on your Viper and fix the chips on the front.

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments about VCA have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[Leslie]

Why are we even interested in what they are doing. Leave them alone.

Bruce

what he said, geez!

[commandomatt]

I think these endless 'battle updates' need to go to a different area of this forum.

This is the 'general' section pertaining to Vipers in general.

When I first got on this new site it was refreshing that the discussions were back to what it should be....our cars !

Lately it appears that several members keep bringing up the issues, old and new, between the clubs.

That may in fact interest some people, but should go to some other place on this site (membership news maybe) other than an area that is car related.

Matt

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments about VCA have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[commandomatt]

Sam,

'General' says right underneath it 'General discussion topics relating to Dodge/SRT Vipers'

I personally feel that this is very much Car related

'Membership information and news' may be a better place since this probably pertains to more of the political end of the club activities.

I certainly don't think that this isn't important, but when I check in on the site in the morning I am doing so to have a relaxing morning and read about something that I enjoy.......the Cars

Instead I get to read about stuff that is political and controversial and that definitely isn't a good way to start the day.

Sure.....I don't have to read it but same as a news paper...if I want to read about 'world news' I don't care about having all the football scores from last weekend in that section

Matt

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments about VCA have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[Sybil TF]

I agree with most of what you are saying,and I am not saying that Enthusiasts can't or shouldn't be here. BUT, if they are not VOA members then their opinions should be limited to things other than about club business.

Waiting to see if I get banned before I join

[ViperGTS]

Well, it's obvious, the old club (I was a member from 2001 to 2013) was&is all about money, past and present.
Sad.
Put them on IGNORE except you were an officer of a region that changed to the bright side, the VOA.

[Sundiego]

One solution for a club that is switching, is spend the money before the end of the year. Party for the members or a package of Viper stuff from Jon B, if bylaws allow.

[Newport Viper]

One solution for a club that is switching, is spend the money before the end of the year. Party for the members or a package of Viper stuff from Jon B, if bylaws allow.

Or refund a % members since we didn't get Mags

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments about VCA have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[100]

That part of the issue is National VCA, the regions didn't have anything to do with the "missing" magazines!

The avatar is a GORGEOUS family picture (all of them Viper Red?). Niiice.

[Sam Goldfarb]

The avatar is a GORGEOUS family picture (all of them Viper Red?). Niiice.

Thanks!
Actually only the Viper is Viper Red. The 1 ton 4x4 V-10 dually is Flame red(factory) and the 1/2 ton with a Gen I Viper engine is also Flame Red.

[City]

Unfortunately, I don't think the forum location of any "VOA/VCA comparative" posts is going to make much of a difference. IMO, it would be even worse to open a specific forum for this kind of discussion. That would likely invite even more discussion. Such threads and discussion are no doubt useful for some (i.e., as a means to vent years of frustration and outrage) and entertaining for others (the prior most suits me). But this forum is designed to be "lightly moderated" so if folks here want to post their thoughts and opinions (negative as they may be) about the "clubs", they are as welcome as those that would far prefer to read and discuss Viper specific topics.

I would presume (my personal opinion only) that the "clubs matter" will persist well into 2014 when hopefully there will be some shakeout and the interest and discussion will be more historical in nature?

[ViperSmith]

IMHO if people want to complain about the VCA, head over to the Alley.

This thread is no better than BobP complaining about the VOA endlessly. (No offense to you Sam)

VOA needs to move forward. I've made the same critique of the VCA - they need to stop complaining about the VOA.

Just tired of the sorority type of drama.

[Janni]

Unfortunately, when the leadership of the VCA posts a public threat of legal action to every region who is changing association in 2014, it's relevant to VOA members. Thus it gets talked about.

Having to deal with this at the local / regional level has the potential to take precious time away from planning events and creating a positive Viper experience. I know each region considered the ramifications of changing their association, understood their bylaws and the laws of their state regarding either name changes or fund disbursement upon dissolution, so I personally don't see this as an issue.

I hope the reality of the scope of following through on something truly actionable (both in time and money) and lack of legitimacy of this threat will drive this quickly into history.

As long as the discussion stays respectful and forward moving, I think it's (sadly) important. JMHO

[BlknBlu]

Any issues that have to do with legality or money should not be posted in a public place for all to see. We need to keep our house clean here and let the right folks handle legal problems, not splatter mis information and rumor here.

Let them do what they want. I do not even like mentioning any other clubs here unless they have something good to contribute.

Bruce

[ViperTony]

I concur with Bruce and Alex.