Bad news for Ram Srt10 Truck owners

[ViperSmith]

The way I see it is, let the BOD decide for the first year then put it up for the members to vote on in year 1.

If the membership sees the truck owners as should be full members, then why not.

[slitherv10]

The way I see it is, let the BOD decide for the first year then put it up for the members to vote on in year 1.

If the membership sees the truck owners as should be full members, then why not.

That sounds like a good plan. Put it on a trial basis for a year and see how the members feel and take a vote then.

[viperfred]

As the owner of a 2005 SRT 10 Quad Cab Ram I understand limiting the membership to Viper Owners and agree. This is a Viper Owners club.

Happy Holidays!

[Black Pearl]

This has been a good debate and both sides have spoken. I feel the SRT10 Ram is a sibling, others view it as a truck. Anything that has had the motor added after it left the factory is just Viper by injection, this truck is a freak of nature but born a Viper in different clothing. I can see why people want to keep the club "pure", but I still think its a major mistake. I do agree that we need to draw a line somewhere, I just feel we drew it one place to early.

Seems by many of the previous comments the SRT10 Ram is not a sibling, just a Red Headed Step Child.

[hawk02]

Do some REAL research then and you will see it's a little more than both the "names" given above. Carry on.

[Leslie]

I brought that up once, received a tap dance answer. I completely agree with you and I'm actually a little disappointed in the Vote. I thought this club was supposed to be more open minded, but from some of responses I read in my poll, I know I was wrong. I am done arguing this.

I just received a pm asking me to not post facts about mods not owning Vipers.

[Leslie]

Are you saying I am stupid?

I brought up the fact only to suggest that there is a double standard.

I think there should be a level of membership for non-Viper owners to belong in some way....associate, whatever.

[Troublemaker]

Do some REAL research then and you will see it's a little more than both the "names" given above. Carry on.

I have done quite a bit of research. I was hunting for a B&W Ram before buying my B&W Viper,but its a pretty rare truck. Ironically it's what got me interested in Vipers, which is why I have been so adamant about them being part of the family/club. This car is doomed with its current business case, now telling potential buyers that have a similar obsession with high performance vehicles that they can't join until after they buy a Viper. Someone that thinks its a good idea to buy a truck with a motor for all practical purposes should never have had, is the same mindset as all the rest of us.

[Troublemaker]

I just received a pm asking me to not post facts about mods not owning Vipers.

I don't know what to even say about this, I have enough burning bridges on this site already.

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[venom505]

Murdered, the response rang loud and clear for me and I stopped worrying about it long before this thread was started. It was started by a Viper Owner just to rub it in our face. It worked, probably wouldn't become a member when I do pick up a Viper, which is not likely as I would opt for a RAM SRT-10 first due to comfort and usability. As I am currently neither a Viper Owner or a Viper Truck Owner as I have learned that I can bring no value to this organization simply because of what is sitting in my driveway. It makes no difference that my commitment to the Brand is probably greater than most here. I visit here a few times a day to see if there is something additional to learn, however, I generally don't open threads that are related to membership or events. The tech threads are the most fun for me to read as I like to see what people are doing. I'm sure it will take a year or so for that area of the site to grow to be a daily reader. I wish them all the best and that's about the best I can do. Other than that, I'll just be a reader like I am on the VCA and The Viper Garage. 2014 is going to be a Great year for the RAM SRT-10

Cheers
Vj

I'm the Viper owner who started the thread but also a viper truck owner. I started this thread because I have always thought the truck owners should be full members long before this club started. The day they produced the 50, 2004 VCA edition trucks,they should have been allowed to join. If they didn't want them to join they should have never built these trucks. There has never been another VCA labeled special edition other than a viper. I have posted this several times both when I belonged to the VCA and also now at our new club. No one has explained to me why they made these trucks and wouldn't let them join. They also have featured these trucks in at least 4 Viper Quarterly magazines.No other Dodge, Chrysler or Srt vehicle ever has been featured in these magazines. Thats my gripe. Maybe somebody can explain this to you and me. I was not trying to rub anything in your face just trying to help the truck guys out.

[XSnake]

I'm the Viper owner who started the thread but also a viper truck owner. I started this thread because I have always thought the truck owners should be full members long before this club started. The day they produced the 50, 2004 VCA edition trucks,they should have been allowed to join. If they didn't want them to join they should have never built these trucks. There has never been another VCA labeled special edition other than a viper. I have posted this several times both when I belonged to the VCA and also now at our new club. No one has explained to me why they made these trucks and wouldn't let them join. They also have featured these trucks in at least 4 Viper Quarterly magazines.No other Dodge, Chrysler or Srt vehicle ever has been featured in these magazines. Thats my gripe. Maybe somebody can explain this to you and me. I was not trying to rub anything in your face just trying to help the truck guys out.

This isn't the VCA.

[big-n-italian]

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whats there to explain?

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[GreenVenom]

These 50 VCA edition trucks that were built, were they for general public sale initially or only to VCA members?

[Uncle Paul]

Were Viper Trucks ever invited to the VOI's. I seem to remember group photo's with them in the back row.

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[Getnlwr]

I graduated from an 06 SRT10 RAM to a Gen4 Viper. They really are entirely different vehicles. The mentality of the owners (at least on the forums) are pretty different as well. Not to say that many aren't similar. However I have seen some things on the Viper truck forum that people have done to their trucks that would get a person flogged, hung, drawn, and quartered on here or the "other" forum. Not to say that there aren't a bunch of really great guys. Tony from JTSVP was ALWAYS a great guy to get help from. I'd go back to him in a moment if he had parts that I needed. But the truth is straight forward, these vehicles are drastically different as are the owners. Associate membership seems to be the best option possible and I applaud the clubs decision, and think it's very fair. Granted I am not a member of any of the viper clubs so my opinion isn't worth shit anyway.

Merry Christmas,
GETNLWR

[ViperSmith]

I am convinced some of you all love drama in your lives.

[Shooter]

Mr Goldfarb,
The Ohio club is lucky to have a such level headed member. Thank you for your post's on this subject. They make sense and are factual.

I personally do not understand why this is still a sore point. People that have Dodge Ram trucks with the Viper engine were invited to become Associate Members of the Viper Owner's Association. Sounds like a win/win.

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[Bugman Jeff]

If a guy sells his Viper, does he get booted or knocked down to Associate member because he's no longer an owner? Can he renew his membership if he's "between Vipers?"

[LifeIsGood]

I am convinced some of you all love drama in your lives.

This.

[hawk02]

There will soon be a Viper truck running high 6's-low 7's, at near 200mph with around 3,500HP, also driving on the street. Stepping up the game another notch!!!!!! Keep an eye out.... Can't say anymore as it is not my place to.

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!