Bad news for Ram Srt10 Truck owners

[Space Truckin]

As I am on the fence about having Trucks included w full membership, I have perused this read for pros/ cons not political opinions. JM2C

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[Loud]

Are there some posting guidelines anywhere? I read the terms link at the bottom of the page and nothing I found seems to address what is proper and what would cause a thread to be closed. Does that mean it goes to VCA thread heaven? Or is it locked and can no longer be added to.

Certainly somebody has to have some type of rules somewhere. You know like the people in India that have a book that gives them the answers to give you depending on the question/problem you have when you need support on ANYTHING.

Rather than delete a thread or close it, just change the thread title. That could be fun! It would probably take a lot of us a couple pages before we remembered that we had already read this somewhere!

Maybe another poll to see how many want to close it or keep it going!

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Common sense doesn't need a guideline. Either bring it back on topic, or stop posting. You should open another thread about that book people in India use, I'd certainly like to know more.

[City]

Are there some posting guidelines anywhere? I read the terms link at the bottom of the page and nothing I found seems to address what is proper and what would cause a thread to be closed. Does that mean it goes to VCA thread heaven? Or is it locked and can no longer be added to.

Whitebeard was simply inquiring as to whether it would be wise to close/lock the thread. "Locking" would simply leave the thread to be viewed but would prohibit any further posts in the thread. For the record we have absolutely no connection, directions, knowledge nor interest in any VCA heaven.

[Coloviper]

Sorry, I tried to connect with another member on something he responded to which turned out to hijack the thread for a few brief posts. Guess I assumed it would go back on topic. Apologized it seemed to offend so many people that they felt the thread must be deleted, locked or whatever.

Fellows, as there was no foul language, dirty pictures or whatever taking place in some of the responses (there was not even malice or anger between Sam and I as we connected), I suggest you step back a bit look where this is heading the past few weeks. It appears that people don't want the lock-down dishonesty of the old place (VCA), nor the extreme openness and abrasiveness of the other place (Alley) and they want somewhere in between. Not sure the actions the past few weeks are in line with the later.

I just dropped off the previous deleted item thread from posting further and let it be after I expressed my peace, yet a discussion between two paying members at the trailing end of a thread that was pretty much finished anyway is suggested to be deleted and move on, like this is an assembly line of sorts, I guess I just don't get it. I mean I get it as forums have rules, etc. but to then have a Regional President make the remark and suggestion, that I don't get.

I guess it may be helpful to understand what the intention of the VOA forums is (in the eyes of the club and execs) and the guidelines. Just so you are aware, this kind of stuff as being discussed like this is not fun nor encouraging friendships within the club (which can only happen when you converse with people) and is not how I want to enjoy my free time when I have any. I have very high hopes for the VOA and am looking very, very forward to the events and real world get together/discussions in person this coming year. Saying that though, the forums, sorry, just not fun right now. What pressing issues are so relevant that we must just move on.

[Sybil TF]

J Maybe when the VOA 14th amendment is passed 60 years form now due to diminishing Viper Survivors, this thread can be revisited.

Have a Great Day
Vj

[plumcrazy]

jeez, you guys are quick to delete threads around here

J/k....poking fun at myself here

[Viper Girl]

[MurderedQC]

]Ok, I was not going to post but I just find it funny. I myself own an srt10 ram. There are plenty of vipers in our friends and family such as my brothers srt10 conv, vooodoo viper, acr-x, new gts etc. I got my truck to be different, and I am sure I could have afforded an rt10 for the price I got my truck. We share a common motor and drivetrain such as the t-56. I did not think that the Viper Guys were this (may I say) unsupportive of each other? You have a supercar and we have a supertruck. I use to think the Viper Guys were different, but maybe im wrong. I have been to a few VOA Events and actually was planning on attending the event in February in IL. I actually bought my truck 2 years ago on the VOA night in IL. To those that said its VOA (viper owners of america). Well I pop my hood and it sure says Viper. It is not VCOA aka Viper Cars of America. I was hoping for a better turn out on this voting and hoping to see Trucks included. I know that some events at tracks or auto-x couldnt include the trucks but then state where trucks would be allowed. The cruise to Road America would have been Awesome to include the trucks and show a great turnout for srt and viper. We share a common badge and common motor. Us truck guys may be a little fatter, but we still have the same heart beat as you car guys. FYI a lot of the car guys I have met have been great people and I have been happy to meet them, especially at AutoBahn when I got to ride along with an instructor. I was just hoping to be more included as a truck guy.

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[MurderedQC]

I would have no issue being an associate member, its just how things seem to have been handled and the reactions of members. (plus if I wanted to be a member there are a few unregistered vins in the garage )

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[slitherv10]

I would have no issue being an associate member, its just how things seem to have been handled and the reactions of members. (plus if I wanted to be a member there are a few unregistered vins in the garage )

Exactly..so on that note...you have answered your own question. Its not about what the letters or numbers say on a Vin..its about owning a CAR....a CAR ...a real life Viper Car..not a truck with a motor in it and not a Vin number sitting in a garage. Its about owning the CAR. GEEZ. Don't see why your not happy with being an associate and you just have to be a member...lol...its a VIPER CAR club..come on!! Not truck club. There is an SRT truck forum no???? Is that not good enough. If not...your welcome to chatt here. NO one said you can't. You just can't be a member. Save your doe and chatt like everyone else. Man this is becoming old. It starting to put a bitter taste in our mouths guys. Please start to respect the clubs identity and move on. I've seen threads and posts how you guys have trucks that are faster than some cars and shinier and bigger and more expensive...lol...good for you guys...but...that does not justify the fact that your a TRUCK...trying to join a car club.
Suck it up guys.

[moparracing]

Exactly..so on that note...you have answered your own question. Its not about what the letters or numbers say on a Vin..its about owning a CAR....a CAR ...a real life Viper Car..not a truck with a motor in it and not a Vin number sitting in a garage. Its about owning the CAR. GEEZ. Don't see why your not happy with being an associate and you just have to be a member...lol...its a VIPER CAR club..come on!! Not truck club. There is an SRT truck forum no???? Is that not good enough. If not...your welcome to chatt here. NO one said you can't. You just can't be a member. Save your doe and chatt like everyone else. Man this is becoming old. It starting to put a bitter taste in our mouths guys. Please start to respect the clubs identity and move on. I've seen threads and posts how you guys have trucks that are faster than some cars and shinier and bigger and more expensive...lol...good for you guys...but...that does not justify the fact that your a TRUCK...trying to join a car club.
Suck it up guys.

Couldn't have said it better myself........

[Space Truckin]

I would have no issue being an associate member, its just how things seem to have been handled and the reactions of members. (plus if I wanted to be a member there are a few unregistered vins in the garage )

As a casual observer of this thread, your posts strike me as odd. In one post you are a Viper Truck owner, in another post you have unregistered "vins" in the garage. What is the purpose of your posts......

[MurderedQC]

I myself own an srt10 ram, in my family and friends there are multiple vipers with some owning more than one. From a 2013 gts to Acr-x to rt/10. I myself bought my srt10 ram not due to money but do to the change of pace from the cars and to be different. I just did not see this as being such an exclusion in the "viper group".

I was not trying to cause an uproar, just was truly hoping to be able to be included in more events in the upcoming year. I see my brother and cousins and uncles all going to events all the time and just feel excluded. I knew there was talk about the trucks and was disappointed to hear the outcome, just had to vent maybe ha.

[Shooter]

I myself bought my srt10 ram not due to money but do to the change of pace from the cars and to be different.


I see my brother and cousins and uncles all going to events all the time and just feel excluded

You bought the truck to be different, yet feel excluded because of it.

You want to join a Viper club?......buy a Viper

[slitherv10]

I myself own an srt10 ram, in my family and friends there are multiple vipers with some owning more than one. From a 2013 gts to Acr-x to rt/10. I myself bought my srt10 ram not due to money but do to the change of pace from the cars and to be different. I just did not see this as being such an exclusion in the "viper group".

I was not trying to cause an uproar, just was truly hoping to be able to be included in more events in the upcoming year. I see my brother and cousins and uncles all going to events all the time and just feel excluded. I knew there was talk about the trucks and was disappointed to hear the outcome, just had to vent maybe ha.

Like we all have said before. There is nothing wrong with coming out and joining us for an outing or 2. Friends are always welcome during most events. Around here anyway.

[BlknBlu]

I hope the message here is that we all love the Viper trucks but the Majority vote by the Presidents wanted it to just include the cars for National Membership. I voted per what my region wanted to see, not my own personal vote. Now regions themselves are opening up Associate memberships to the Ram SRT10 comminuty and welcome them with open arms. The National Forum has dedicated a forum section for the truck guys. That alone says a lot for the love of the vehicles. The National Board was the sounding board on the vote and listened as to what the Regional Presidents had to say.

I look forward to having the Ram SRT10 folks included in our regional events.

Bruce

[MurderedQC]

I hope the message here is that we all love the Viper trucks but the Majority vote by the Presidents wanted it to just include the cars for National Membership. I voted per what my region wanted to see, not my own personal vote. Now regions themselves are opening up Associate memberships to the Ram SRT10 comminuty and welcome them with open arms. The National Forum has dedicated a forum section for the truck guys. That alone says a lot for the love of the vehicles. The National Board was the sounding board on the vote and listened as to what the Regional Presidents had to say.

I look forward to having the Ram SRT10 folks included in our regional events.


Bruce

Thank you, as that was the best response and well written. Thank you for not bashing that we have a different platform and clarifying that my 6000 lb truck is not a car.

[cobraken]

I was not disappointed by the the vote of the VOA BOD. I own both the cars and trucks that are discussed here. What bothered me the most is the disrespect that some of the Viper owners' showed on the forum. There are some members I would never associate with because of what has been represented. I understand some of the desire to keep this a car club but was TOTALLY surprised of the vehement opposition to the truck.

Fortunately most of the members are true motor heads that love machines. Most GET the truck. Most have egos not based on their ownership of a Viper. Most are not disrespectful of another's passion. Most would like to also have an SRT Ram Viper truck in their garage.

I like the idea an associate membership for truck owners. I have never felt anything but a welcome when I've chosen to take one of my trucks instead of one of the Vipers to a Viper event. I hope that continues.

[Leslie]

There are mods here that don't own a Viper, how is that different?

I am disappointed in the vote.

I think we should be supporting ANYONE with a passion for the Viper!

Then even the mods AND Viper trucks could attend events!

[Troublemaker]

There are mods here that don't own a Viper, how is that different?

I am disappointed in the vote.

I think we should be supporting ANYONE with a passion for the Viper!

Then even the mods AND Viper trucks could attend events!

I brought that up once, received a tap dance answer. I completely agree with you and I'm actually a little disappointed in the Vote. I thought this club was supposed to be more open minded, but from some of responses I read in my poll, I know I was wrong. I am done arguing this.

[slitherv10]

Hey listen,

I have a Viper powered Camaro and don't see why I can't be a member as well. I could definitely add some input motor and build wise and may teach a few things for some here. I also have a friend who couldn't afford a Viper and so got a motor for 7K and put it in his Daytona truck. I would be glad to tell him that is it is ok for him to join the club as well.
hey why not advertise this club as a come one come all who love the Viper and join. No prerequisite required. Just the love of the Car or motor or whatever. Even if you have a Viper paintjob, come on over. As long as you have something with Viper involvement, your in. lol....

I still don't understand why all the fuss over this. Just get it over with.

To tell you the truth, I sometimes wonder what being a member does for me other than allowing me to vote, which I don't do, or have a say in any political view regarding this club, which I would say more than half don't do. So on that note, what more do I get than an enthusiast or associate for that matter. They are allowed to come out to events, they can chatt here, post here, they can even add their 2 cents for decisions regarding the clubs matters. Hmmm sounds like most of us paid members privileges no?

I'll leave it at that. The Pandora box is best left closed here.

[Troublemaker]

This has been a good debate and both sides have spoken. I feel the SRT10 Ram is a sibling, others view it as a truck. Anything that has had the motor added after it left the factory is just Viper by injection, this truck is a freak of nature but born a Viper in different clothing. I can see why people want to keep the club "pure", but I still think its a major mistake. I do agree that we need to draw a line somewhere, I just feel we drew it one place to early.